| Show PRESIDENT PENT WilSON ILSON Of USING INFLUENCE MICHIGAN f SENATOR i f PROVES OUTSPOKEN Senators Senators Weeks and an Warren Endorse Endorse EnI En En- I dorse View That Executive Is s si t i Most Powerful Lobbyist E NEW LINE OF INQUIRY OPENED c SENATE EXTENDS THE TIME LIMIT J. J a ommittee Decides to Recall eta Senators Who k Have Already Testified for Still I Further Interrogation ASHINGTON June G.-An G. 6 An unexpected turn was given I the Senates Senate's lobby investigation late ate today when h Senator Townsend of Michigan Republican declared n the stand that the influence wielded by r President Wilson lson nd the Democratic secret caucus upon the making b of the tariff tariff tar tariff iff bill constituted the tho nearest approach to Undue influence c upon up on members of Congress Cong that the investigating committee t ie e would be able to find 1 Senator Townsend cli criticised the e committee for not having ha asked members belS bel'S of the Senate whether the President had bad sought to lo o influence them and declared that even though l the President had not intended it his recent denunciation of lobbies working working work work- ing in support of changes in the file tariff would t force certain sell seu- s to vote against amendments they knew to be just just t Who HYbo are arc those Lose S senators tors M H demanded Senator Reed II 1 I don dont don't t car taro to flame a anyone fone K The two Iwo Democratic members o oL of the committee eo present resent I Senators Reed d Walsh re any in t on 1 t t t ial l i l' l lu u d patronage or threats to force any anyone one t to s support rt rr free ie siT ar r o-l o or or J Tree rte e wool cool or 01 to support t tobacco o as ns a whole C j T HI T more said aid Senator Walsh that in view je of he the serious c statements e wade t 1 touching the executive that any senator who vho has testified ahead may Iway may be recalled an and interrogated in reference tl thereto ei to o w r I 1 am for that said sail Senator Nelson Kelson nn and members hel of the commute committee Nt F agreed a. a S Senator Weeks of oc Massachusetts also a. a Republican following Senator Town Town- I scud on the stand expressed the tha op- op I lion Ion that executives cs had halt had more In- In InI n- n t I t on bills biBs than all the persons l who ho have ha come conic to Washington put to to- The sta statement that the President put ut out In regard ard to an insidious lobby Jobb I influenced the public mind said ald Sen Sen- alor Weeks ok and that ha has its Ita effect port the senators The public belleos a is a bad man mm c and md nd no Sena- Sena i tor likes liken to ro oppose 44 e a A. mca measure ur If It the J President says noS the lobbyists are c seek seek- I lag JOI to change It f Senator Snivels Snivels' a Democratic tlc memer mem- mem h bar er of ot the tho finance committee said he ho kneW new of or no lobb lobbying hl influences at nt work wort i 1 in on n n the tariff bl bill I IF F Senate Si Time I I IThe The Senate a agreed to extend tho time for the lobby JobbY Investigation i dat or until June 28 2 The new nn ei el- J j moot Injected Into It today today- 10 HO y Will carry th the tho questioning of ot senators Jover Ver into Inlo next nest week Features o of the 1 Ao called d lobbies on su sugar ar wool and metals and liquor labor and other l leg leg- lon must mus then be lie taken up as the thet second stage of or tho the Investigation In ht t I Senator Townsends Townsend's statements In re relation re- re lation hUon to President Wilson were not rl n to nth th the form of charges c Ho expressly said ho o did not chart charge the tho President nl with V.-Jt 1 using Improper methods but he insisted In- In that the th charges that lobbies hubbies ex- ex Ud d and nd the activity atI of or the tho Pr President nt li la support of free c wool and stud fr free sU sugar al' al to an Influence even ven thoU though h he did not nol use UI C the big stick k of I patronage I KnOW N No 0 improper by i St St. AH As tin the term lerm Johb lobby Is gr understood un- un I lie he said arid and a ax as I 1 believe It Itu teas u used e l by b tho the President In his 1115 recent statement upon v which this thi In JUon was founded It means one who i lea Iti-lea to set sal I ore ure Or prevent pre legislation Ib i y 3 u use c of or means that are Improper b by th offer octer or payment of oC money the Wanting g or 01 withholding of ot favors ors b by insidious threats of ot political opposition by tho the use of ot patronage patrol or the division o r political r rewards I know kno knoof of no imProper Improper Im Im- proper t Proper lobby lobbyist tat of or that kind The harest approach to undue Influence exerted upon members of oC Congress I Ithe Is the Influence exerted by Ly tho thu President and b by the UH use URe and power of lh the party secret caucus I J Do Io 1 0 you OU mean man to say nay that Is fi lob lobby lobby- y- y 0 7 demanded t Senator Heed t A lobbyist I Is Ire a man who attempts te t to Influence h legislation ug against ln t the tho honest t conviction th conscience und and t th notions of or duty dub of or the l legislator I returned Senator Townsend Because Uee gut ut the Insinuation that a lobby Ito to Influence them to vote for tor amend amend- the they believe In In 1 think some ome Senators u will refrain retrain from so tiO voting I t Ihl is h coercion j 1 Ex uthe Iol l f You Vou believe e there Is 19 a 1 species pet ot ur loo- loo 1 from lie tho executive as all w well JI un us j from the outside asked Senator urn uru I In Y Yes s. s i. i sir lr Ir T i have no doubt nf fir i It It ro- ro j I rI d Senator Townsend n I 1 do not i Ll Llamo the executive C any more than II I-II soy ny I I other Other u ll seems TI tf to b 14 be rath rather 1 popular r r These are arc two Ules imeK to tu this thin riu a I ton lon on Tine The r fact ct that t a man Is IR for pro pro- Action IM Is not nn I nce that ho Is t or because c he I is for fur free c that thai I ho h In Is I littlest honest I J leaders leaders' have t bet been re re- re Toru jl or-l or as saying This Is If to be he H n mater mair mat mai- fr er r t tia o must decide and anti In Continued on oil l. l Page S 5 Column 1 t d A PRESIDENT WilSON VILSON 2 ACCUSED OF USING UNDUE Senator Townsend f Intimates Chief Executive Is Most S Powerful Lobbyist H GIVES INQUIRY NEW TURN t j i C Committee Decides to Recall fit I I Senators for Further J J j. j d Prom From T PA air 1 n order to be a good Democrat and ro- ro tho proper amount o of patronage and not perhaps be bo opposed you OU must 4 support the tho party measure Do you know any human being who can Sl say as ns a a. matter o of fact tact that President Pros Pres Mont ident Wilson has haa either cither withhold withheld or given appointments to affect tho the vote voto of or an any man In Congress demanded 5 Senator Reed No NG I do not I only onh know knowS what I have hao heard rumored and seen in papers papers pa- pa pa Pl- pers said Senator Townsend I of Xo No lobbies Senator Townsend said ho he had no Interests that might be he aJ af- af a- a J b by tho tariff and knew o of ob no lobbies existing In Washington Senator Weeks testified d he severed t hIs connection with ith all nil his banking banking- and andi 1 i commercial concerns when ho was S. S 1 el elected to the Senate He said three or four men mon called upon him who might I be called lobbyists Among them were r Thomas Thouis O. O Marvin secretary of or tho the thoI I Home Market club and his brother Winthrop I L. L Marvin secretary of or tho the Wool Manufacturers t tion Thc They were not promoting or opposing opt op- op t posing legislation so ho understood but gathering Information for tor members members mem- mem Ibers bers bers of 01 o tho the associations who desired to receive It t tS S I J Senator testified ho had no personal knowledge of or a a. lobby I Senator Cummins said tho the flooding of or e senators with telegrams rams and letters was 1 tho only practice ho he had observed In J Washington wn that was wrong and cost costI r I money i Senator Pago of ot Vermont said Sd kits his chief Interest was in hide hide- and calfskin J trade and In fertilizer manufacturing I He ife had small lumber holdings S I I favored free hides and opposed free tree lumber umber In 1909 ho said Tho The OPerations operations op OP- op- op 1 of ot Indian attorneys In Washington Wash Wash- ington In relation to claims and ney's ncy's contracts ho he thought camo came near to be bc of or a n lobbying characters character Other Oll I la Senator Oliver Olivor owner of ot 1000 shares o of preferred stock In tho United States Steel teci corporation told the committee committe lie hO did not eX expect tho the tariff In nn any anyway anyway wn way to affect its value alue J 1 have o always l hold held ld that Insofar as tho the Iron hon and und steel schedule of or tho the t tariff trl Is concerned tho United States Steel Stool corporation Is vcr very much loss subject to monaco than would small mall manufacturers manufacturers I be to a change chango o In rates said he lie In addition to tho the steel stock Senator Senator Sen Son ator Oliver said ho h. had an Investment of or In Ill two Pittsburgh newspapers newspapers newspapers news news- papers and preferred shares and about fifty common shares in the tho Pittsburgh Pitts burgh Coal company whoso whose product ml might ht bo be affected by th tho tariff a. a I never sought Bought to influence an any senator in re regard to the tho tariff on any articles In which I am am nm concerned saul said ho nor has hns anyone sought Bought to In Influence In- In fluence mo me Improperly Persons who had called on him In Included in- in chided W. W L. L Claus Glaus W. W S. S Strassburg A. A F F. John Pitcairn Edward Idward E. E Marshall Arthur B. B Davis John H. H Penny Ponny Colin Cohn Livingstone and W. W L. L Kann t to tn Divulge Copper Holdings Senator Oliver OlIvor declined to give Sl his investment In copper oro ore or 01 in other othor lines that ho said were not affected b by tho tariff or 01 other legislation bof beS bo- bo f r r y rt Cr S j I am 1 perfectly willing to give the tho public ImbUe an Inventory of or everything I Iown own he said sald but I dont don't think the purpose of ot th this s Investigation is to se- se curo cure an inventory of ot every senators senator's property pro pert Senator Walsh Insisted that It was pertinent to ask how much Mr Oliver had Invested in copper properties I cannot concede your right to askI ask Oliver that returned Senator I Youre Youre oure dead right Interjected Senator Senator Senator Sen Sen- ator Nelson a Republican member of or ortho tho the committee Senator Reed Recd agreed with Senator Walsh and Senator Cummins with Senator Senator Sen Son ator Nelson Chairman Overman was absent t. t It was a Do tie Senator Oliver said ho knew of ot no steel lobby and no representatives cs of or I tho the steel Interests maintained In Washington on tarl tariff or other ques ques- Du u Pont Out of PotT Powder r Trust t. t Senator Du Pont of or Delaware said ho Ito owned several farms 1000 In Inthe inthe the tho Pennsylvania Steel company compan 1000 shares In tho the Cambria Steel company 1000 shares in tho the National Biscuit company and no powder stock When I came camo to tho the Senate I had hada a small amount of ot stock in the Du DuPont DuPont DuPont Pont Powder company compan but I disposed of that lon long ago said he I have havo never nover felt It proper however for tor me mc meto meto to take part In an any debates In the Senate Involving powder questions orto or orto orto to talk with senators about the sub sub- Senator Du Pont said that though he was a n. member of or the Senate military mili mill- tar tary committee tho the committee committed had acted without his operation co-operation upon legislation concerning po powder der Quotes Quote Remark of Senator Thomas said he had declined to take part In consideration o of tho lead and zinc provisions because of or his mining Interests which Include worth of ot stock In tho Del Monte lonto LeasIng Leasing Leas Lens ing company compan worth In tho the Volunteer Volunteer Vol Vol- Mining l company and In tho the Creed Mines l company limited Senator Thomas said ald tho the on only 1 romark ro- ro mark made mado to him that t ml might ht be considered considered con con- Improper came caine from Henry T. T Oxnard who ho represented beet sugar Interests opposed to freo free sugar When hen henhe he told Oxnard ho he probably would vote voto with his party part lit In support o of tho the Underwood Underwood Un Un- derwood bill bill Oxnard replied that If It tho free freo sugar provision were retained Congress would bo be hero here until tho the snow flies files before otoro tho the bill could bo passed There had been a persistent effort to Influence his action on su sugar ar wool and lead Senator Thomas said through h a great number of ot letters and tele telegrams from rom Colorado and tho Rocky mountain states This correspondence has been beon HO so general so fiO almost universal In m my state said he ho that I am satisfied It ItIs ItIs itis Is tho result of organized efforts eUort In Inspired Inspired inspired In- In and anel tho the expense paid for b by In Interests In- In directly concerned In the rates of ot tho the tariff bill Wool t Work Pork Openly Senator Thomas rhomas said tho the sugar campaign o of the th beet sugar forces was the anI only ono one o of an anon anon- anonymous inous character while tho thio wool and other othor Interests had worked openly ho sauL said Was as It th the Influence of oC the President President dent of the tho United States or the tho cane cano planters o of Louisiana that Induced the tho ways was an and means committee of ot tho the House to put off free treo sugar for tor three years asked Senator Cummins when Senator Sentor Thomas resumed the tho stand at atthe tho the afternoon session T I think It wn t as saul said Senator n u. u n Thomas Thomas Thomas-n Senator Thomas Thomos believed tho the American American Ameri Amen I can and Hawaiian cane growers and the beet sugar makers makor working working- Jointly against free sugar but ho he be believed ha- ha It was the facts presented b by bythe bytho tho the Louisiana cano cane growers alone alono that Induced tho the President and tho to put ort oft free sugar until 1916 Former Representative J. 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T Hull of ot Iowa lows was to appear be before before be- be fore toro tho the committee committee- next week I Kern corn Denounces Denounce Intimidation A 4 mart who sho threatens to close his factory factor or to create a n. panic If it Congress does thus and so Is a Do lobbyist ot of tho worst character declared Senator Kern of or Indiana at the night session This does not apply appl of ot course to men inca who are arc sincere and honest In tho the presentation pros pros- o of their case ho added The senator said ho believed the lot lot- tors and telegrams which Interested parties had sent to members of ot Congress Congress Congress Con Con- gress falsely to represent conditions in their homo state were In tho the highest degree Improper and that a a. great deal of ot work had been done dono In tho the present session by outside parties trying trIng to manufacture thorn them Warren In Indorses Toi Town u Senator Warren of Wyoming Indorsed in indorsed indorsed In- In tho the sentiments expressed earlier In the da day by Senators Townsend and Weeks that effective c Influence had been exerted b by President Wilson If It tho the President has hns tho the right fj said nId l he he to send for a n. senator and urge him bun to vote oto in n. n certain way surely a n. senator has the same samo right to try to Influence a no fellow senator Senator Warren arren said ho he held worth of ot stock In tho the Warren Live Li LiveStock LiveStock Stock com company |
