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Show SCBROEDER, EDITOR OF LUCIFER'S LANTERN Visits Ogden and' Expresses Himself on Prohibition, Woman's Suffrage and Other Subjects What Cannot Be Cured by Law Virtues That Must. Come ,by Education Utah Women Not Emancipated. . contrary that nearly every one Is dominated by an unreasoning moral sentimentAlism, and even voting-women voting-women willingly submit to the legal establishment of a dual code of morals', I the heritage of our past female slave-! slave-! virtues, originating under a code established es-tablished ov.er BOO years ago, when Christian asceticism had reduced tho wifo to a chattel Hlavc who could be mortgaged and beaten like any other of her husband's cattle. Equality of political opportunity doeB not seem to have emancipated Utah women from a -willing submission to a male-made unequal moral code. There is the earae old submission to the slave-virtue, established solely for her, by the male who furnishes the meal-ticket. It takes more than mere votlng'to establish estab-lish female equality, either before the law or In social life. The slave mind cannot be made to think as a master, merely by passing a suffrage law. As a human thinketh so It is for that human. hu-man. A slave-mind cannot produce ; Independent, equality In conduct. J There will be no emancipated woman, I or emancipated humans, so long as we j adhere to the little 2x4 virtues based 1 upon tho circumscribed view of a serf who knowB little or nothing of his re-' re-' lations to the outside of the little fence that bounds the acreage of his servitude, or so long as we are domi-j domi-j nated by the morality of diseased ! nerves and class distinctions, and governed gov-erned by the "paternal, legislation of hysterics and office seeking scrubs. But somo day we will have a scientific 'ethics based upon a world-view of human hu-man relations and Inter-depeivlencc, and then we will also have libertjr-, "I know full well that these last generalizations will mean little to the unenlightened mob. but to adequately iljucidate them will take more space than is here available. However, I am j hoping that 6ome of those who do not understand may be induced to go in quest for light To such let mo say, i you will not get this kind of light in popular magazines, or churches. The intellectual food-supply therein offered for sale Is adjusted to the greatest advertiser's ad-vertiser's market demand. That Is, It is prepared to meet the mental requirements require-ments of the least enlightened minds that buy printed matter at all. Pictures, Pic-tures, headlines, fiction and twaddle that stir tho emotions and moral sen-t,imentalism sen-t,imentalism of the mob are the only matters that popular periodicals are able to dispense profitably. If you get the true light at all you have got to work for it among the materials found mainly In the scientific and radical (that is unpopular) publications." " i , Theodore Schrocder," editor of Lucifer Luci-fer s iira, wno is visiting in Utan and Ls enjoying Ogden's Eastertide, has pronounced views on many subjects, sub-jects, including prohibition and woman's wom-an's suffrage and in an interview accorded a representative .of this paper, pa-per, declared kimself as follows: "I notice during my present visit In Utah that the dominant subject or political discussion has been changed to the prohibition question. Here, as In most other matters. I entertain opinions which are not discredited by having achieved any great popular an-, an-, proval. and may be I can best entertain ' vour readers by expressing some opinions opin-ions revived by my recent observations To begin with. I should say that for over twenty years I have not smoked five times, and during most of tho same period I have been a total abstainer from alcoholic beverages and during all of it I have not averaged five occasions oc-casions per annum when I havtf indulged in-dulged In intoxicants. I attended churches Just about the same number f times that I have gone to saloons, and derived from each about the same amount of good, to wit: none at all. In theeo particulars, therefore, l esteem es-teem myself an ideal temperance man, though I am not now, nor have I ever been, a prohibitionist The only thing -which makes me suspicious ofAhe correctness cor-rectness of my opinions, in this latter matter, is the report that I am in seeming seem-ing harmonv 'Tvlth Senator Smoot and Joseph F. Smith. Perhaps the harmony har-mony is only in the seeming and will disappear when I come to consider tho incidentals and the reasons for bur respective re-spective convictions. "In my view drunkenness Is a mere Bymptom of social or personal disease, and you ljayen't cured the disease wucn'vou suppress the manifestation - of seme particular symptom. Bad nerves and wrong social and economic conditions will manifest themselves In disorder as a matter of immutable natural law, and in spite of man-mado regulations. Morallzation by force has .ibeeu tried for thousands of years, and Its friends, by constantly complaining that the humanity is getting worse, and that always more and more laws are necessary, unconsciously but eloquently elo-quently admit the failure of tills method meth-od of reform. I believe that humanity Is growing slowly better, not by tho j passage of penal statutes but by virtue of the slow process of intellectual evolution, evo-lution, which usually operates against, and in spite of, law and religion. Except Ex-cept in the matter of morals, the theologian theo-logian has been vanquished In every encounter with the naturalist Ethics is one of the last subjects to become a matter for the application of the scientific method. The conflict between science and religious 'morality' is a matter of the near future. Then moral j Bentimentallsm will have to give way I to a conception of moral natural law, just as the Garden of Eden was abolish-1 fd by the discovery of the law of cvo-1 luttoh. Conduct will then be judged, )not according to the alleged mandates tf any holy spooks, or prophets, seers tr revelators. but according to ascertained ascer-tained and material consequences. Tho lbsolute morality of an enlightened jelf-interest. Then the. theologasters will have no occupation except to entertain en-tertain and restrain' by spook-tales those unfortunate imbeciles who cannot can-not achieve the scientists conception ' of morals. The hospital will supplant the jail and moralizatlon by force will fce ihe shame of the past, when the physician and surgeon replace the jail-l jail-l or. "Furthermore, I am unable to see enythlng Immoral in drinking or smoking smok-ing as such, and even though it be indulged in-dulged in by women. I have many valued women friends who do both. Personally I find more pleasure in Ependlng'my time and money In other ways, but I cannot, and would not if I could, use the coercion of the law to make the appetites of all people like my own. This leads me to comment an the fact that most people with whom I converse, seem to think there Is borne great and mysterious virtue in sxcludlng women from saloonsri can-lot can-lot agree to this Every . woman has Ihe same right to go to a sahon that I have, and It seems to me that only moral sentimentalizing aud a stupid cowardice would induce a denial of lhat equality of right Good and bad women, aud good and bad men are permitted per-mitted to breathe tho same air, enjoy the same sunshine, listen to the same dull sermons, and receive therefrom the sauio Intellectual , stupefaction. I ( think they should also be accorded an ' equal right to paralyze their brain by booze as well as by spooks. To deny an equality of right to sane adult humans hu-mans and to admit the existance of a power that can destroy such equality of right, merely on account of sex, is Itself a greater wrong and social danger dan-ger than any it can correct In New York the courts have declared unconstitutional uncon-stitutional a law which sought to establish estab-lish arbitrary discriminations according accord-ing to sex. "When I remember that thi3 is an equal suffrage state, it Is a little dis-appointing dis-appointing that no woman has arisen with the clarity of vision and moral courage to insist upon tho legal equality equal-ity of the sexes, even in the matter of "going wrong." The absence of such a protest amounf; to a demonstration that even with woman's suffrage no rne believes in equality under the law is a matter of principle but on the |