Show VESTON DILLS BILLS i iARE fAL I IARE ARE CONSIDERED I Citizens and Legislators Talk I IFo Fo For and Against M Meas Meas- ures I QUESTIONS OF POLITICS j I Gather hi t I iti for rm lun lI of 41 imo lio d Change c ith Il i la- la thc live Citizens mot mol wih time the special comm coin coin- municipal corporations In iii m on omi tho the house hous chamber In iii time the CI City and find County building last night to tim discuss dIscus I the tho bills hills now before that committee John Q chairman chair chair- I man of th time tho committee presided I Franl B. B 1 Stephens In lit favor of the lie proposed et change In the time manner of r governing gO Salt Sui Lake Lalio City He lie said alt j he lie was opposed to 1 amending time the bills hils as time thc they pa passed time the senate pro l providing ln I IJ for the time city for three thre commissioners I Imn I Imen I J 1 would rather s c e. e he ito saul said three men mn at a 0 salary of a year ca than titan live men at Speaker Joseph asked Can Camm you OU keep politics out of the queston under the time proposed forum form of government Io Stephens The TIme IHrl parly a man lal belongs to will not make mala much difference to wi their affairs affairs af af- administers th time the people peole If he lie fairs In an aim ni efficient manner fals fal's would It Joseph What money I Isa sa save saU U us Stephen If I If you tell loll me mime how lieu much money moncy iu 11 been hecl wasted under time tho present of city ty government o I Imay may be hc m. m cile to tell teU ou 11 what will iiii be he sa cd saved l n Is the fault faull of time the system amid ami not of men I helped hoell to waste tIme the city's elYs elY's monc money when whicH I was 09 cl city at nt- nt lorne torney Goes GOS GO'S on tim 11 Record Councilman F. F S S. spoke a against alm time Galveston idea It I J has been saul said that thal it would g give c us a government gov SO sail U as good a as the time one omme In Wash Wash- ington he hc sail said the three commissioner commis in that lint town civil do 10 not govern Otil OtilIt eln 1 It They lucy fley are arc under the thc supervision of or I congress congress- When hen money monc Is needed to district In the thc earn carry on cit improvements What time thc they go 0 to the thc national treasury would be ho gained by the change Tho lw same sumac people that limit cm me mime and unc elected me ale It to II time the office oce and the same people that nominated you meaning time the legislature leg would select these three men How hios' can Caim you IOU then get gel gelgood getgood s-e s soo good people Why not let the lie la laws w of the time state state be made with three thice people peo ICO- pic instead of or time the men now no In the lie legislature It I would be time the same saute scheme If I time the tho three cc men wele elected elected elect elect- ed would the they not represent ent time the part hart of th ii city they came camie ft omit Then why not elect three men from frol Suit Salt Lake to represent the lie re rest t of the time state Could Coul th efre telL teU Of o tho the needs s of or San San- peto county Speaker Jo ch How lion lon long have iti you OU boon on In iii 1 thin the city council counci Mr h Fern- Fern V. V nine car About bout years Joseph Jo eph Then you OU would expect to lo serve the thc rest of oC your ou life lIc If this mca meae- meae nrc ue Is not passed eh cli el 1 I Taxes O. O H H. Hewlett spoke in Iii favor Cavor of or the time three men governing go body lie Je said It I 11 Is a fact that time the tax lax rate in imi Salt al Lake City is higher than Luau it I Is In any ammy other wc western lern city The city council counci is hi going g to ask asli and amid I 1 think they met mimet tonight for fOl time the purpose for an aim a additional addi addi- lonal three mills mauls mis tax I thought at first and told tolI the other oIlier members of or time the Civic 1011 league that 1 I believed ed the number of s should should hould be iC l c live five I have changed m my mind and I now believe beleve that the they should be ie chosen at large and anel be bc made responsible for COl their actions loal to lo all al parts of the time cl city Will allow a n Speaker Joseph Joseph VI you OU alow question I want to look bolt into Inlo Uneconomical Un time economical side of or the lhing We Ve are arc lold told It f is a bu business proposition 1 Mr Mi Hewlett said that he Ime would try to lo am answer we an any queston question The speaker made an aim to arrive ar nr- rive Ire at the time Cost o t In imi relation to the time salaries salaries sal sal- aries paid imald aid the time men who are arc trying to run Iun time the town to at time the present time It I was maintained by 11 Ale Mr Hewlett Hewlet and amid others that this mis was not riot a fair fal said that basis hasl for comparison It I was ail the tho saving to tIme the cit oily CItI would come conic with wih a better beter nut and a n wl wiser er administration tion ton of or the affairs atTaIn of or the time city eit tut iy lun Schick told of or what what he lie knew of 41 and its Is present Hc form of oC government He lie le said n I that when he lie visited time the cl city in iii 1 city cly government guy gov o was ivas most corrupt Councilmen Council Council- mon men spent plenty of their money to get their Jobs johs and no flO doubt made on nn effort to get et it back hac said ald Mr 11 Schick Time The disaster came cammic and atI with II IL tho time new form forni of government g The Thc second I visit it paid by Mr Ir Schick to lo time the city cHy showed him hint a u better el city and amid a harJ happier citizenship The Time cl city had In tout four foul years accomplished a saving of ofa ofa f fa a million dollars besides hull building lid a greater town They rimey laid had m time ll el CitY twelve feet on tim the Iho level level Thc Timey had built bui a L great sea Mca wall four fOUl miles long had imad paved their streets ts better helle und and erected better buildings while hl I Ic time they decreased the tax le levy If I It worked well wll In iii Galveston I believe o lele that it will work Just a as well wol in II thus this cH city he lie concluded Conduit an Clinton B. B Leigh spoke poke In iii favor a 0 l' l of ur the time new Idea Ho lie 10 said all that it was mi-as a u fact tact that thai the time municipal al governments throughout the country were voie notoriously corrupt and Ind lie 10 believed tim that a change should be he made He lie quoted the lie state en engineers engineer's s report in iii saying that at nt least leat 1 ha had been wasted in Iii build building I the conduit U It Colonel 1 E. E I. I A. A Vall Wall defended time the board of public works ks and maintained maintain e ed tJ that the time mailer maUel was not up UI to them He lie continued and placed himself himself him him- self on record a as being belm opposed to a achan chan change e in iii the tue plan of government Councilman J J. J II 1 said 11 he Ime was wal In iii fa tarot favor 0 I o of three commissioners he le did not h believe lc e the plan plait was for tOI tho the best bl of oC time the city Due Dur 11 ing the time discussion Speaker Joseph wild said If I I can not be he enlightened upon the thc of oC the timing thing or 01 the thc saving a to be made malic I r will wJ not bo I able to vote upon ullon the thc question uc I Then we will wi get gel ton alon along without you retorted 0 O. 1 H. H Hewlett Hewlet The chamber was isas crowded with wih In in- in citizens and anti a dozen others were ivere heard upon th time the bill bi The Time committee com corn will wi report the bill hi to tho time house it I Is said at the beginning of oC next weeks week's session e lon |