Show V V rv w M 1 HARRIMAN LINES UNDER 7 I Interstate Commerce Commission Commission Commis Commis- 1 so sion Taking More i i 1 r Testimony t. t i. i j JS IS THERE COMPETITION II- II t I l t rr Or n Do tim Ih the Union flit find Southern ii S 'S t 1 i Pacific he Ha e OIIn I 4 rIU III t 1 j 4 Nun York Jan 4 Tho Interstate f 1 C Commerce commission which began 4 nfl an Inquiry today Into tf lU iHo relations of or controlled by R R. II IL lIar lIar- il 3 adjourned Lil this afternoon until 4 tomorrow The Hion ion will probably k close here tomorrow tomorrows and then n go 10 to Chicago Chicago- 2 It wn w expected 1 that flint President fid I would be th the principal wit wll- j. n ne but hut lie I ie Wl l. was unable to attend on account of or illness following an nn operation oper oper- undergone several se days das ego ago Ills attorneys stated 1 that the railroad t magnate would not nOI be he able to atI at attend nt- nt I tend tho the sc sessions of ot the commission 1 tor lOl or nt at least ten len days but told toll them t Tr i-Tr that they hp hey could take hI Ms testimony at atthe k the HarrIman home homo If IC the they so o desired This however cr wa was waived wal 1 by tho commissioners loners The rhe only on I witnesses es examined t. were Alexander Miller secretary an and 1 William WilHam Malil Iah I controller con con- ironer of or tho the Harriman lines lInC's r It how lIow 11 on lI He lie Got lot Illinois Central Tho most Important matter brought r k out was the deal by br which the Union secured hold of the Illinois i Central railroad 1 enabling HarrIman l to oust Stu c Stuyvesant nt Fish from tho thoI I presidency and anal take control o of ot the t. t I big trunk line Secretary Miller I read from the minutes of ot th the Union Pa Pa- cine chic directors directors' meeting and showed o 1 that a combination compost composed of uC II H C. C David ahl Willard illard and ami P P. A. A Ii Valentino was appointed to consider the tho proposition of oC buying a controlling Interest in the Illinois Central stock This stock was purchased e l un und and l gave gavI- the tho Union Pacific control of hares or ell 29 20 9 per cent of the capital stock Mahl Mahi said l that Hint large larg pur- pur f s of ot other railroad stocks had C II v Union Pacific und and andT nU T c ri r h il lp 1 1 h 11 I tn Inch li in t i tho 1 Illinois 1 c- c cJ JI J eph I Grand t ann Santa Fe l Baltimore Balti tl j more Ohio Chicago o Northwestern Northwest No t- t i. i j ern Jn In and Ne New York Central Po Positions I Arc All the S Sane Same f An Important point was waa brought out when the witness declared 1 that he ho huld practically the same office In tn all of or the roads Chairman Knapp an and 1 Commission Commission- ers Lane and Harlan are acting for fori forthe i the tile full thU commission In tn taking mony t It was the general understanding today that thal after anel sitting In 11 this titis 18 city today and tomorrow the commis loners lon lun- ers would proceed ploce to Chicago to take further testimony Frank B. B Kellogg an and 1 C. C A A. Severance Sev Sev- crance erance attorneys of or SL St Paul are aro app ap- ap p UH Uti the legal representatives I IIi Ii p ot pC the he commission e Robert flobert S. S I ovett Loveit t fr appeared as O. O counsel l for tor the Union tt Pacific William B. B Cornish h vice i. i pre president of ot th the thu Union Pacific W. W V. V ti S S. Thorne director of purchaser purchase Alexander Alex Alex- Miller secretary William Mahl Mahi cP t ander l' l comptroller all nil of th the Union Pacific system were vere present today aw l wit wit- r Couldn't Appear M Mr 11 Lovett of counsel for th the Union t 1 Pacific said mid Mr 11 Harriman would be bp beable c able Me to give hl his testimony In th the regular regu regu- V f. f lar form later Intel The rhe commission lon will sit sli II V in Chicago Go We Wednesday ay next I said hl V Knapp Will Mr harriman V lie li h. able ahle to appear app then and th there r. r No O sir said counsel V WitHout designating a specific date dot V Inquiry on this thin subject ct for fOl u further Said Knapp Knopp the thc commission commis commis- V V ion sion will vilI accept the excuse offered for tor forthe V the nonappearance of or Mr MI Harriman nn and 1 as Oil there thore is IK no desire lesire le lre to press matters mat mot ms at al this timis time he will be excused tho the tt V for tor present V was waR Secre Secre- Secretary V Tho first witness sworn V-V V tary Miller of the tho Union Pacific He lie lieV to questions by Mr MI V in rt response V Kellogg that ho Is IB also secretary of ot 1 limo iho Southern Pacific railway Y and of tho the Oregon Cn Short Line and amI V V V s secretory secretarY of the tho Oregon Railway V Navigation n I company I Is Jl it not a tact fact that all an these the com com- aro are under th the same fame control panic they the not the th same president p nt E. E aV tare Have V HarrIman and the same samp vice Ic V H I V dent Mr 11 Cornish h Y Vot Yos sir 1111 V whether the asked was Vas ats Miller Mr 11 V Union Pacific owned stock In the Occidental Oc Oc- Steamship compan com com- V Oriental entil and ni Sin aid it did rhe The Southern lIe He anY pan the Morgan owned ownell V V Pacific he said r tl rn hll lines of V commission then of- of el for tor the ol mun-ol oun n the tho lists of directors V r forO Jr rn in evidence u committee and ond V and i of the tho executive PaSc Pacific and Southern Patho Pa- Pa or of tho Union nion was also alHo of offered Cere a aIn V There that statement In evidence n. n Line voted a a. majorIty major major- V V tho Oregon Short each meeting or of V stock at it or of the 13 13 Ity April V Pacific tho the Southern V. V 1 1893 S 93 3 would not nol admit the I If V SecretarY irv Miller saying ho hc did dial correct f was I books bOOk The statement tho of not leeel stipulation V went on howe cr under counsel J. J of the union Unon pacific rime hr pacific and Oregon on Short Southern Oregon RailwaY V anti and the tho were next offered ofen 1 V compan I It V were The four foUl In 0 to luring during th the V generallY the fouL OUI laV Pa- Pa t I re Ie ot of th the h hearing us ml cl Cles und anti A. A I K VJ Vande- Vande V Y V. V S. S Thorne directors of the aPI appeared iS by a al not nol of the Union Southern sId time the pacific Who ho are they ot of purchases Mr Mc chortle Is and Mr II the or 01 tM thO four r or of is III V south r ta r V. V it t. t V |