Show The Herald Journal Logan Utah Wednesday January 29 2003 — AS Q Utah Public f i i debates : Senate panel approves r recitation in middle credit ’ V SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Senate lawmakers gave early approval Tuesday to a bill that would require junior high and high school students to recite the Pledge of Allegiance “We’ve given way too much ground to those who would throw God out of everything” said $en Chris Buttars Jordan as he introduced his bill to the Senate Education Committee The bill passed the ' unions SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Lawmakers confused by die flurry of conflicting information over a legislative bill to ' tax the state’s largest credit unions held a public debate Tuesday night on the issue The Utah Bankers Associa- don the Utah League of Credit Unions and the Department of Financial Institutions officials each presented their points of view as former Chief Justice Michael Zimmerman AP photo moderated Rep Jeff Alexander 1 Provo said his bill is an effort to stop the state’s largest credit R-- unions from unfairly competing against banks and expanding beyond what is allowed by charter His proposal would eliny-nat- e die tax exemption for credit unions that have more than $100 million in assets and operate in more than one county Those credit unions would have to pay a competitive equity fee equal to 30 percent of their net income and a S percent tax Credit unions serving statewide associations like employees of Utah Power would be exempt Department of Financial Institutions Commissioner Ed Leary said the issue is particularly contentious in Utah because its largest credit unions happen not to fall under federal jurisdiction He accused both sides of the debate of having misleading and negative advertising Utah Bankers Association President Howard Hcadlec said the credit unions had a choice: either limit the area they serve or expand but pay taxes He said the credit unions in a 1999 agreement chose to limit their service area then began trying to chip away at that compromise The mess arose after a former commissioner of the Department of Financial Institutions misinterpreted the stale credit union act The 1999 agreement hoped to correct the earlier problems that allowed credii unions to grow beyond what had been legal From 1983 to 1993 almost anyone in the state could join any credit union In 1998 the 3rd District Court ruled that credit unions had to limit membership to within one county That led to the 1999 law that grandfathered in the larger credit unions Credit unions are following that 1999 law and don’t understand why the banks want to change the agreement now said Utah League of Credit Unions President Scott Earl Police seek family of missing boy SALT LAKE CITY (AP- )He says his name is Jacob he’s 3 years old and someone left him in the toy department of a ShopKo store Police are trying to find the boy’s family Store surveillance cameras show a stocky man walk into the store with the boy on Saturday The man apparently put him in a shopping cart handed him a toy and walked away Other customers became con: cemed after about an hour and called police The camera images don’t provide a good look at the man Police say the boy referred to the man who abandoned him as possibly his mother’s boyfriend Welfare workers have temporarily placed Jacob with a foster family The child appears to be in good health and shows no signs of abuse Salt Lake City police said Suspect fOUIld William Allred asks the judge a question during his bail hearing Tuesday in Panguitch Allred is being held in connection with the Sunday shooting death of Garfield County Deputy David Jones in SnOOtinQ clarifies guns in schools Bill SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Senate Majority Leader Michael Waddoups is spon- soring a bill in behalf of prosecutors that would clarify that people with concealed-weapopermits may carry their firearms onto school ' ns grounds is Waddoups sponsoring the bill at the behest of the Statewide Association of Prosecutors to clear up a conflict between two statutes A Senate criminal-justic- e committee heard an explanation of the bill but took no action asking a dozen people who wanted to speak on it to return Monday His bill would amend the law that bans dangerous weapons from school grounds School administrators have interpreted this to include legally concealed firearms The second a more recent s'atute grants exceptions for police officers concealcd- - weapon permit holders and others said Paul Boyden executive director of the prosecutors’ association ' “We don’t want to be in a situation where we’re forced to prosecute under conflicting laws” he said Coupled with legislation to make it harder to get citizens’ initiatives on ballots measure could be the “one-twpunch that permanently kills the Safe to Learn Safe to Worship movement forever” said Marla Kennedy director of the Gun Violence Prevention Center of Utah Safe to Learn initiative Wad-doilp- s’ o backers failed to get the needed signatures for placing a referendum before voters in 2000 and 2002 but still are trying for the 2004 election Waddoups said the bill doesn’t clarify gun rules on college or university campus-e- s The University of Utah has asked a federal court to declare it has the authority to ban legally concealed and other weapons from campus “Waddoups is endangering the safety of Utah’s school-childreKennedy said “There are just certain places guns shouldn't be and schools are among those places" ) ' ! i “You cannot have an endorsement of God in the public schools where there’s a Ears That Listen Not Just Hear ri Just because we have ears or the capacity to hear doesn't mean we listen We've all been caught hearing without listening We hear the words coming at us We know we're supposed to make some meaning out of the sounds hut the connection is gone We're off in our own world or preoccupied with clamoring internal worries or fears Heal listening is a rare gift an act of love in which the other's g is as important to us as our own A good listener cun holJ on to his or her point of view and accept and understand the viewpoint of another as well I sometimes counsel with Thursday January 30th 7:30 130 North 100 East Logan Utah HOT STONE MASSAGE! I hour only W500 first rrUulidii A I hum IMoa AlIrmiNiiix nrnings A (435) 760-318- 8 well-bein- of AmericaM I Warm up and relax with a Ml nMugr Book Signing & Reception rfcnnb Logan 1 'mUtOEffJ point of death One of the universal symptoms of the death of their relationship is a "hardness of heart" They no longer care enough to listen They won't hear each other's pain They refuse to make an effort to understand The walls are up They are not willing to grant each other the time or priority that listening requires They have ears hut they do not hear If we learn to listen we will understand a major facet of what love is listening because what the other has to say is as important to us as what we might say to them So pletise strive to sincerely listen more couples who have let their to your sweetheart because relationship atntphy to the listening is an tier of tme love “Watershed: The Undamming Haws said Others suggested mandating ‘ the pledge would end up dividing students “Do any of you think it will make those who recite it more patriotic?" asked Charles Johnson president of Atheists of Utah “Will it make them better citizens? Probably not But it will do one thing It will increase the divide between those teenagers who are members of the predominant faith and the rest of us" ' reads from her new book flk'idpUf : Senate The pledge is already required once a week in the state’s elementary schools Buttars’ bill extends that weekly recitation to middle and high schools Local school boards are currently only encouraged to have the pledge recited in secondary schools If the bill becomes law students could opt out of the ' requirement with a written excuse from their parents About a dozen members of the public spoke for and against the measure at Tues- ' day’s hearing Elizabeth Grossman le Kelsey high-schoo- ls captive audience” said Stephen Clark a Murray resi-dent Shannon Strickland of Salt Lake City said he was concerned that his son was not saying the pledge in his junior high school “Where aic the patriots? This is not a religious issue our country was founded on God Please do not negate my children the right to pledge allegiance to the flag” Ralph Haws a member of the Jordan School Board told the Senate committee that the change was not needed “I’m not sure we need that degree of government imposition For the government to say you must do it I’m not sure that teaches patriotism” ' six-mem- committee unani- mously sending it to the full bill requiring pm 435752-908- 9 ' pin q m V matters 'rMP Stay live wire Stay! 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