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Show The SaltLake Tribune, The Public Forum The Tribune Dec. 10 article indicates Save Our Canyons" is back. Again, many ask, what and from whom? It is a delicate job to plan for the best use of our canyons for skiing. Faced with the growth policies in the Salt Lake Valley, optimum use must be defined. Until we can forecast optimum use, it is premature to solve the major canyon transportation problem. Unfortunately, mistakes were made in locating recent downhill ski facilities in the upper reaches of our canyons where vertical drop is insignificant. Emotions are flying high for or against downhill ski slope expansion. Neither Forest Service nor county plans show downhill or cross country terrain suita- bilities. For downhill skiing, land forms must have continuity so one can glide without having to push. That is why downhill skiers get frustrated in Snake Creek, upper Albion Basin and Catherines Pass when they get stuck in deep snow. If it were possible to accommodate skiers in White Pine Fork it would be a good use of this area. By riding a lift to the top together, each type of skier could take to their respective skiing territories. y The skier would get a full Lone Peak Wilderness day in the 30,080-acr- e and the downhill skiers would be allowed to enjoy the 2,000 acres of continuous open slopes of the upper White Pine area. Is the Save Our Canyons group saving our skiing canyons for a harmonious multiple use? BEAT VONALLMEN cross-countr- Forum Rules Public Forum letters must be submitted exclusively to The Tribune and bear writers full name, signature and address. Names must be printed on political letters but may be withheld for good reason on others. Writers are limited to one letter every 10 days. Preference will be given to short, typewritten (double spaced) letters oermitting use of the writers true name. All letters are subject to condensation. Mail to the Public Forum, The Salt Lake Tribune, P.O. Box 867, Salt Lake City, Utah 84110. Dismissed From Bill The Tribune editorial of Dec. 2, re: Broudy vs. USA, was read to me over the phone. The gist of the editorial seems to be that Sen. Orrin Hatch has the answer to all of the ills of atomic testing. I attended Sen. Hatchs hearings in Salt Lake City on the Atomic Bomb Fallout Compensation Act of 1982 as a representative of the national Association of Atomic Veterans. I was allowed to speak about the plight of the veterans involved in the testing. Following me at the speakers table was a representative of the Navajo miners. After my speech, I left the hearing room only to be accosted by Orrin Hatch's aide who handed me a press release dismissing the veterans and the miners from his bill, all the while the miners were presenting their case to Sen. Hatch and his committee. The government admitted it knew the nuclear testing, but dangers of above-groun- d it cannot be held liable if it it is immune does not warn soldiers, miners, test-sit- e workers, lab workers and others of the dangers of exposure to nuclear radiation. This group of victims cannot sue the government because of the Feres Doctrine, which only applied to the military until Sen. Warner 2 Universal Press Syndicate Astel Parkinson, a devoted Jamaican-bor- n youth worker, spends his life walking the troubled streets of Brixton trying to understand the young. He is growing more and more depressed about it all. I took my son back to Jamaica recently as a birthday present for his 17th birthday, the senior youth worker at St. Matthews Church, told my assistant, Tam Mehuron. He had never been to Jamaica before. Everything went fine for two weeks. Then during dinner our third week there, my Georgie Anne Geyer son said to me, By the way, when are we going home? Parkinson shook his head. That was a shock to me, he went on. "Jamaica was still home to me. But the youth in their 20s today they don't want to return; they don't know what to return to. Brixton, a neighborhood of fading row houses and sullen deterioration typical of immigrant neighborhoods, was the scene of bloody rioting this fall that has shaken Britain. It is also home to what is at the bottom of the new racial questions: the second generation" of immigrants, who are not immigrants at all. They don't belong in Jamaica, or Barbados or Pakistan any more. But they also dont belong here. They dont go to the churches, they arent very welcome in the political parties, and white Britishers still call them immigrants. They have even lost Idea that in" the romantic vigorated many of them only a few years ago. What worries concerned people like Parkinson Is that they arent taking part in programs like his anymore, either. "The younger generation says to the older ones, 'You are still West Indian, but we are black British; and that Is the difference. When we as the older generation were put here, we were put here in the back sections because we were here to work. The set kids born In the West that came after us we tried to convert to our way of Indies Britains return-to-Africa- regular customers have been aging or dying off, and the young ones have been moving to hangouts with ferns and females. His place could use a remodeling, but he can't afford it and no bank will make a loan. And even if he had a loan, he probably couldnt pay it back. So hes going to shut the door and go looking for a job tending bar for somebody else. When he told me his troubles, I asked him Shes Wrong This is in response to J.R. Woolsey and to attitude. all those with the who lost have really The people sight of what Christmas is all about, are those who say Christmas is too commercial. They are the ones who cannot distinguish between reality and fantasy. The commercialism is a very small part of the holiday season. Christmas is a time to stop and remember loved ones. Christmas is a time to remember someone who knew what giving was all about, Jesus Christ. A man who gave a very special gift, his life. Santa Claus has no redeeming quality for adults, except to remind us of the excitement many of us experienced as children, and to find happiness in other children experiencing the same joy. If J.R. Woolsey thinks Santa is a substitute for the Son of God, then its his own misconception. Merry Christmas! NANCY VOLMER Bah-Humb- Theres No Sense of Belonging LONDON Chicago Tribune Service Old Harry told me that he's closing his corner tavern for good in a few weeks. His ... Very Special Gift thinking. We thought they could get trained here and then go back to their country and get jobs. But the second generation has been educated here and has seen its parents suffer, and they no longer think they should go through the process of evaluation their parents went through. The kind of hatred that is building in their minds cannot be explained because no one remembers where it came from. Im worried that we no longer will be able to retain the respect that we have demanded over the years. He paused. The answers are becoming shorter and shorter. I have been watching neighborhoods such as Brixton and Lambeth since I first visited them seven years ago. At that time, there was trouble, yes, but at this same parish there were programs that seemed to be working. Black and Asian immigrants, moreover, wanted either 1) to work, or 2) to go "home. The new factor today is that they are nonhome. The proportion of native-bor- n whites continues to rise, and they are young. in Britain Some 60 percent of the are under the age of 25, compared with 38 percent of the whole population. They are also at the veritable bottom of the barrel because, with England allowing only certain Commonwealth immigrants and family members of citizens to immigrate, there are no waves coming after them. "Now, 45 to 50 percent of blacks in Britain have been born in Britain, Dev Sharma, of the government's Commission for Racial Equality, told us. Unless the system in Britain is able to accommodate them, they will look to extremes. "There was a romantic attachment to Jamaica, to back home, but those who have seen bad; home returned to England shattered because of the conditions they found there. There is a sense of belonging to England. But they are in a position where they both are getting more and more alienated from English Institutions, and from their parents because they feel their parents aren't able to respond to them either. In America, the gnawing concern is that we are facing an angry, nihilistic black underclass In our cities. For different reasons but with a parallel grim outcome, Britain is facing the same problem: a group without work and, increasingly, living outside any cultural norms. non-whit- Gets Subsidies, Why Not Old Harry? slipped through a paragraph last year at the end of the appropriations bill, which made all subcontractors employees of the government, thereby placing their employees in the same Catch-2as the military. The civilians downwind (Allen vs. USA) are the only class of nuclear victims who can sue the government. I am pleased this lawsuit has been successful so far and I pray the Circuit Court of Appeals will uphold the District Courts decision. I agree with the editorial when it says His efforts should be properly extended to all American victims It is the surest way for justice to prevail in this matter. ALICE P. BROUDY Laguna Niguel, Calif. In the Dec. 11 Tribune, there were two illuminating headlines on the front page. One stated, Arafat May Offer Deal On Israel. The other said, Dont Appease PLO, Shultz Warns Allies. These paint a gloomy picture of the Middle East situation. For years we have squandered a large portion of our nations treasure on arms that have made Israel unbeatable in that part of the world. The Arab nations are unfriendly toward us because of our partiality and support for Israel. Our government continuously has argued for peace talks between all Arab elements and Israel. Israel refuses to talk to the Palestinians as represented by the PLO. They say the PLO is a terrorist organization. This is a classic example of the pot calling the kettle black. Israels record of murder and vengeance killings would be hard to surpass. Against protests of all the world, they settled on the West Bank where they hold power with a merciless hand. Yet, reason insists something be worked out; but the first requirement is dialogue between opposing factions. Israel says it will not talk to the PLO. Assuming the PLO is their mortal enemy, the fact remains, as someone has said, there is no purpose in talking peace with one's friends it is ones enemy that must be drawn into the discussion. So far as our government is concerned as illustrated by the remarks of Secretary Shultz, I offer this historic toast, My country, right or wrong, but in this instance, I am convinced she is wrong. DOUG INGERSOLL A9 DeceniberlJSfiS If Tobacco Tribune Readers Opinions Save What For Whom? Tuesday, why he didnt call the White House and ' ask for a subsidy. He looked at me like I was crazy. "What you mean, the White House? You mean the We were the farmers . . . We fed the world . . . ! Sandy Grady Teddys Tough Decision Is Wise One for Party r Newspapers What you remember is the white spotlight cutting through blue smoke and the chant welling up from the crowd: Teddy! Teddy! Teddy! It had a deeply melancholy sound, a plaintive wail for something lost that would never be found. Place: Madison Square Garden. Date: Aug. 12, 1980. Sen. Edward Kennedy had just uncorked what was easily, bar none, the most emotional political speech of our time. He had lost the nomination to Jimmy Carter. For 45 minutes Kennedy thundered an impassioned last hurrah. There were a lot of ghosts in that speech: FDR, Teds slain brothers, liberalism, himself. Kennedys voice pounded the final rhythms like a massive hammer: . . . the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream . . . shall . . . never . . . die. Im certain it was the most brilliant political aria of my lifetime. But the second-bes- t Kennedy speech may have been the announcement made in a Boston TV studio, Knight-Ridde- WASHINGTON old-sty- le Dec. 19, 1985. No cheering, stamping is to let the suspense build, creating power for himself in the Senate. Why the early withdrawal this time? Some reasons: He saw he couldnt win. Forget polls marking him the Democratic y stuff evaporates when That Teddy hits the stump. Party insiders say Kennedy had no chance in any Sunbelt state front-runne- r. name-identit- in '88. president? Sure. Him or anybody else who answers the phone. Why not? Its worth a try. You must be crazy. The government doesnt subsidize taverns. Why should they? I know they don't. But theres a valid reason why they should. Its called fairness. This year, the federal government is going to provide a huge subsidy for the tobacco industry. Theres nothing new about that. The government does it every year. Last year it cost us about 3100 million. And this year there is going to be a super-bailoby the government, and some experts say it might cost over 1 billion. I wont try to explain this form of welfare because I dont understand how it works myself. But it amounts to a handout of taxpayers money to support those who grow tobacco. And it also helps the cigarette makers because it helps keep the price down. If the price stays down, young people will be able to afford to take up smoking. And that assures the cigarette industry of future custom- Danger of an assassination attempt. nedy has always been haunted by death threats. He had to think of his kids and his role as the surviving Kennedy patriarch. A bad gamble. If he lost a presidential bid, hed also lose his Senate seat. What would he do at 53, retire to the Hyannisport compound? Chappaquiddick. That nastiness, in which a woman in Kennedys car drowned, would Ken- er-addicts. So it seems to me that if this country is generous enough to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to prop up the tobacco industry, it ought to do something for all the little saloon keepers like Harry who go out of business every year. Ah, you are saying that it wouldnt be right to subsidize a tavern because taverns are in the business of selling something that - can be harmful to the user. true. If you are determined to detThats onate your liver, Old Harry will pour them up for you as long as you put the cash on tte bar. On the other hand, you can order a ginger ale, and he'll be just as cordial a host. And you can sit there for half the day, listening to the juke box, playing his faded old pool table, and using his washroom, which is cleaned at least once a week. So one might make a case that Harry holds a moral edge over those in the tobacco business, who cant survive without millions of And, it appears, without the help of the Congress of the United States and presidential approval. Thats why it seems unfair for Harry to go out of business. Sen. Jesse Helms, the right-wingfrom North Carolina, can talk for hours about those poor ol tobacco farmers in his state, who will have to take up some other line of work if Uncle Sam doesnt help them out. And Helms will successfully go in and bend President Reagans arm until he gets the kind of handout he wants. Well, what about Old Harry. If Jesse Helms farmers can get a handout from the taxpayers for the purpose of creating tobacco addicts, why cant Old Harry get a handout to draw an honest beer? J After all, Harry has never once knowingly sold a drink to a minor, which is more than you can say for Helms favorite handout recipients. f I explained all this to Harry, but he said Nah, if I called the White House, theyd just v think I was a nut. Thats probably true. Jesse Helms can go in there and argue for hundreds of millions of handouts to people who are in the lung cancer business. But if Harry called, the Secret Service would probably come around to check him . mob this time. Just Kennedy, a wingback leather chair and the camera. Teddy wore a dark blue suit and looked tense and somber. He said he would not run for president in 1988 and that his own White House dream addict-customer- might be forever dead. I know this decision means I may never be president, Kennedy said. The pursuit of the presidency is not my life. Public service is. s. er Translated: I'm going to be the U.S. senator from Massachusetts forever and ever, amen. It was a good speech good for the political life of the country, good for Kennedy, good for his clan. That brief, flat spiel bought everyone a chunk of peace. They wont admit it publicly, but every top Democrat in the land exhaled a huge sigh of relief. Kennedy, to use a television word, is too hot. Nationally he stirs up emotional heat waves: love, hatred, hero worship, scorn. Hes an idealist when thats out of fashion. Hes a laser beam whose white-ho- t personality would have torn apart the Democrats again. I long suspected his speech was Kennedys valedictory, that the bitter 80 primaries against Carter taught him he'd never be president. But this year, noisy as a brass band, Teddy was running again. He was putting together a 4 million campaign chest, assembling a staff, preparing to hustle everywhere for Democrats in '86. One serious signal: He'd lost 20 pounds. I have no doubt that if I run for president I can win the nomination, Teddy told the Boston Globe cockily. The major surprise is that reality overwhelmed the Kennedy fantasy so early. The usual Kennedy modus operandi remember, he has been a rumored presidential candidate for 20 years but only run once dream-will-never-d- ie pursue him anew in a campaign. Kennedy apologists argue that young voters wouldnt care. Wrong. That episode will always be heavy baggage that weighs on Teds integrityThe Senate. Kennedy said the passions of a presidential campiagn would cloud his Senate work. "Anything I do or say would be seen through the lens of 88. Democrats. Another divisive Kennedy campaign might fatally wound the party. Kennedy would be blamed for extending the life of Reaganomics into the 90s. What happens next? Obviously, Colorado Sen. Gary Hart and New York Gov. Mario Cuomo will jockey for the lead. More interesDemocrats esting is how lesser-know- n pecially Delaware Sen. Joe Biden, Gov. Charles Robb, Arizona Gov. Bruce Babbitt and Missouri Rep, Dick Gephardt may rush into the Kennedy vacuum. Maybe the Kennedy dream will never die. But someone else, younger and luckier, will have to keep it alive. -- out. So I made one final suggestion to Harry. And he said he might do it. I told him to drop a note to Nancy Rea- j gan and congratulate her efforts to dissuade young people from using drugs and becoming addicts. Arid to end the note by saying: P.S. Hey, Nancy, when Jesse Helms comes to the White House, what do you say to him about addiction? a, The Way It Was Happy birthday, dear Mr. Trumbull, happy birthday to youuuuuuu! . . I i i Here are briefs from The Salt Lake Tribune of 100, 50 and 25 years ago. December 24, 1885 The masquerade at the Skating Pavilion last evening was a pleasant affair and well attended. December 24, 1935 Lack of sufficient money to meet the payroll caused consternation Monday in the office of City Commissioner O.H. Goggin, in charge of parks and public property, and while many of Mr. Gogglns employees went without pay for s vices already rendered, all other city employees drew their pay from City Auditor Samuel Nichols. December 24, 1960 Beehive state basketball teams will take a home court winning streak on the road next week, as Utah, Utah State and BYU engage in holiday tournament -- . - |