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Show niii iriyi I I The Public Forum III.- .s,.li I Jiick Tribune Readers Opinions Basds for Firing Jean Layton. famous hied Bount.ml savs that she has no idoj why slu- was mod If she is by her own admission totally obliv ious. tills should constitute suliau nt basis lor Bring. Who does she take orders irom'1 - CHARLOTTE Soft J I Ancer M HOWE create alcohol Won't Do - This is in reply to Mr. Neff Smart s Forum letter of Sept. 23. I would not like to address the details of the referenced letter, even though 1 feel that many of them are quite incorrect. 1 will instead address the very foundation for Mr. Smart's suggestion that we substitute $33 billion of "soft answers and Christian charity" for the MX weapon system Mr. Smarts approach is based on the longstanding and widely praised Christian principle of trust. He trusts that the USSR would strive for true "peace in tho world"; rusts that they will "search honestly for compromises"; trusts that they will reciprocate in any arms restraints or reductions; and last but not least, trusts that I d Forum Kulf. p t i k i Public Forum letters must be submitted exclusively to The Tribune and bear writer's lull name, signature and address. Names must be printed on political letters but may be withheld for good reasons on others. Writers are limited to one letter every 10 days. Preference will be given to short, typewritten 'double spaced i letters permitting use of the writer's true name. All letters are subject to condensation. Mail to the Public Forum, The Salt Lake Tribune, Box 867, Salt Lake City, I tah. Ml 10. they will not subject us. that is, you, me. and 220 million other U S. citizens, to nuclear annihilation With stakes like this, I submit that trust i simply not good enough. Too many lives are at stake to trust anyone, no matter whether they are Russian. Amencan, Christian or atheist MICHELE D. CHAVEZ . Layton Familiar Rhetoric i ) Commission who have unlimited power to vouiisi nt arrest and revoke our license It would seem the great minds of our do good legislators would love to bung back the good old davs of the noble experiment put in force in 1918 called Prohibition, w ben after two years of lax enforcement. seven out of ten of the good families all over the nation were making home brew, wine and any coni oc lion that would Addressing the Western Coalition on Public Lands in Reno on the "Sagebrush Rebellion", Sen. Qrrin Hatch once again resorted to his familiar rhetoric. Applying such "selfish, irresponsible labels as "cult. Toadstool worradical environmentalists. and "dandelion pickers" to a shippers, constituency that has attempted to work with the senator in establishing a sound future for Utah's wildlands is hardly the role of a U.S Senator. The senator notes that the war on the west" is becoming more hostile. What better way to insure threats of violence than to personally, verbally pit one group of constituents against another? The Sagebrush Rebellion" represents termination of one of America's greatest and most distinctive policies: conservation of the natural resources of her public lands. Nowhere in Sen. Hatchs proposed transfer of public lands to the ow nership of individual states is there recognition of a need for preservation of Utah's incomparable wildlands. On the state level there is no Wilderness Act, no Antiquities Act, no Multiple Use and Sustained Yield Act, no Endangered Species Act offering protection for our unique animal and bird species and the habitat they require to survive. One can be assured the public lands and all their bounty would be up for grabs and out of reach of the general public. This "land grab is nothing more than a plan devised to benelit the economic gain of a few without affording any protection for those number of lands which host an tourists (generating tourist dollars for Utah) and which serve as Utahs own recreational resource. MARGARET PETTIS Thousands were partaking that prior to Prohibition had never imbibed How do 1 know . CLARK BUKM1 AY. F.irmiiist-i Usually due to hard work and thrifty habits, a few of us acquire enough assets so that we can afford to join a private club. We join a club so that we may be affiliated with a group of good citizens, who have acquired a facility where we may take our family, our friends and guests for good clean entertainment, dancing, bowling, swimming, friendly card games, and hearty meals that are not budget busters. Sometimes we senior members enjoy what our legislators and liquor commission have decided is that terrible corrupting game of Bingo. Now in Utah we can no longer relax and enjoy our club entertainment. Our sole means of obtaining funds to maintain our facility is through the sale of refreshments, most of which contain alcohol. Now after presenting our I D. card, we may enter and relax (not true. Each time the front door opens, we cringe fearing those entering may be the dreaded Gestapo of the Liquor Great A W The Chicago Tribune WASHINGTON Senate Minority Leader Howard H Baker is on the verge of signing an agreement with a leading team of political consultants, John Diardourff and Douglas Bailey, and of moving up his timetable for seeking the 1980 Republic an presidential nomi- nation Sources in a position to know said Baker has decided to announce his candidacy officially during the first week of November rather than waiting until this session of Congress has been adjourned or a decision reached on the strategic arms limitation treaty. Simultaneously . it is 9T percent likely" that Bailey and Deardourff then will assume management of his campaign according to one party to the negotiations Polity and Deardourff are peihaps the 'ed (urn of political consultants e. who work hugely, although not entnely (mu-tubb- Growing Unease What is clear, in any case, is that the interest in Ford, and the heightened pressure on Baker lately, is a product of a growing unease among In response to Police Chief Bud Willoughbys comment. Sept. 26, damned If you do, damned ' don't." Republican moderates at Ronald Reagan's continued dominance of the Republican campaign and the emergence of John B. Connally as apparently the only serious alternative of the moment. The corollary is the widespread feeling in the party that Bush, despite his success in raising some $2.4 million and lining up prestigious party support, has not yet shown that he has broad appeal to the rank and file. Baker is not exactly burning up the opinion polls, either, but his recognition is substantially higher than that of Bush, and the ratio of a positive to negative attitudes toward him is the highest critical measure to politicians among the leaders of the Republican field. His problem to this point has been largely his inability to be convincing, and what he clearly believes now is that the combination of an early announcement and Doug Bailey and John Deardourff will change that. (Copyright) William Safire Carter Cuba Stand Could Create Peril New York Times Service WASHINGTON President Carter may have unwittingly overreacted this week to the combat brigade placed In Cuba by the Soviets during his administration. You would never know that by his television address, of course, which was a sorry spectacle of an American president in full retreat. His spoken response to the Soviet rejection of his demands was to announce that we plan to take some very nasty Mr. Safire pictures from up high, and that Americans at Guantanamo would soon prance angrily about and fire loud blanks at each other. The Way It Was Here are the bnefs of The Salt Lake Tribune r from 100, 50 and 25 years ago; October 6, 1879 A frame building opposite the OGDEN railway depot, used as a laundry and store room, and containing several sleeping rooms for the servants of the Union Depot Hotel, was destroyed by fire about 7:30 last evening. The flames spread to the depot, threatening to consume all the buildings of the immediate vicinity; but a heavy rain this morning aided the firemen, and the fire was kept well under control. The loss is estimated at $4,400. October 8, 1929 All roads lead to Salt Lake. Thousands of visitors to the L.D.S. conference and to the Utah State Fair have arrived and continue to gather from all parts of the Intermountain territory. Salt Lake is host to the greatest, happiest crowd in history. Salt Lake welcomes the thousands of visitors, here for the conference and to see with pride the products of the arts, the crafts, and the agriculture of the great state of Utah. October 6, 1954 BYUs football teams may have been "off the beam as far as winning championships, but theyve been zeroed in pretty well when they've tangled with the Utah Utes on the gridiron. In 29 games, the Cougars have been horse collared 13 times by the Redskins. From a won-lostandpoint, the Utes have their most Impressive mastery over the Cougars from Provo. Only once since they opened the modern football rivalry in 1922 have the Cougars been able to beat the Utes. They did manage four ties, but they have fallen before the Redskins might 24 times. BYU won its only game. in 1942 st 12-- i - The decision by Bailey and Deardourff is complicated by Deardourffs continuing close relationship with Ford, who has been sending broad hints that he might want to run again. Most political professionals, including those who know Ford best, doubt that he is willing to fight his way through the primaries again to seek the 1980 nomination. And they regard the political teasing lately as largely an attempt to keep the situation fluid. Moreover, many Republican professionals are convinced that Ford is mistaking affection for hard support and would find it difficult to convince the skeptical that a candidate who lost as an incumbent president would do better coming back at the age of 66. Backs Police fly-as- h, IB ti. 1979 Strong Showing This has been partu-ulailtrue in two states when- a strong showing early in the campaign is essential. Iowa and New Hampshire In each of these there are a number of Republicans favorable to Raker who have signed on instead wilh George Bush, who is perceived widely as a similarly moderate candidate although his positions on issues are generally more conservative than those of Baker. Those.who have been outraged by the recent events in Davis County may now take positive action to support the deposed Library Director. Jeanne Layton has been fighting a battle in an old war that must be and n time and again. The fight is freedom of information. She now faces an expensive and possibly lengthy action in the civil courts to restore her rights and to reaffirm the rights of all of us. Miss Lay ton wili need all the help her fellow Utahns can give. PRISCILLA M. MAYDEN fly-as- tolter In-e- Will Need Help How dare Robert Salter compare buying U.S. Savings bonds with "peanut butter and the Brooklyn Bridge! If his intent was to discredit investment in bonds, he should have compared it with investment in the County Commission. The contempt that the commission shows toward investing in America is the same contempt they show toward the Americans they govern, i.e., raising taxes to finance larger (undeserved) salary increases for themselves, expensive mistakes in judgement, numerous scandals both public and private. It should be no surprise to us that untrained, inept police departments throughout the counmanner ty, act in a dangerous because of a traffic violation. We must remember their bosses are untrained, arrogant h little men who react to with near hvsteria while, having a "too bad attitude toward the aged poor they have taxed out of their homes. I believe it is time we made our homes and streets safe from both the commissioners, and their dangerous apparently high on Key stone Kops. Come election time well have that opportunity. JUDITH ARNOLD Riverton M Ik-e- Sm iuu Wait Til Election c 1 he n v ist-also would amount to a by Baker that Ills decision to tail! admi'M-remain in the Senate until SM.T 11 had Iteen decided was a strategic error m political terms however satisfying it might have to his own mow of his Senate duly Although even Baker's critics would concede his dei ision to see SALT through to the end was more substantive than political, the rationale among his managers was that the exposure he would get during the treaty debate he is one of the leading opponents of SALT 11 - would be as valuable as making the circuit of Repubh can Parly gatherings to shake hands But the judgment of most professionals now is that this has not proven out that public m'erest m SM.T has minimal and that Baker, meanwhile, has seen potential support among influential Republican moderates slip avvav hei ause he has not been out actively seeking it for moderate Republican candidates And tliev played a major role in Gerald Fords post convention campaign in 1976 Thus, their agreement to work for IL.ker would be taken as an instant credential as to the seriousness of his intentions for 1980, w hu h is something of which all Republicans have been by no means convinced during the sev oral months Baker has been a do facto but undeclared candidate The same can ls said of the decision to move up the timetable for Baker's active candidacy Although the Tennessee Republican has campaigned intensively on weekends and during eongres'-ioiia- l rei esses, assuring everyone w ho will listen hat he is fully committed to run in 198il. the notinn ha- persisted among Rcpuhli cans th. C In- aught walk awii at tlietleventh hour i People's apathy for our law enforcement officers reflects society - insecurity as a whole. But where would we be without them? Have we lost perspective of whose side they are on? When you tear at our justice system, you also tear down the morale of the men and women who work for you. Everyone needs somebody. If you want our officers to do a better job. let them know youre for them, not against them. After all, isn't that what it is all about? Put the blame where it belongs. In your own pocket, and call it ignorance. These men see more suffering every day than most of us see in our entire life. They have only my praise and admiration. M. KRISTINE STODDARD Granger S.iini .lay Baker on Verge of Makingo HAROLD LANG if you ,i'i in ituouT I wish to commend your Clark Lohh for a groat story about 'Utah's Flower Men of Death Row." In another garden I knew the pleasure and value of growing flowers and vegetables Elmer Know les has done a great service to the State of Utah and his fellow men Congratulations. ever-increasi- The Good Old Days ? was there. I was born and raised in Woods Cross, moved to Farmington in 1918 and lived very near one of the very Urge moonshine rs There were dozens of them in Utah. Most towns had the finest police force that money could buy, and believe me most of them were on regular retainers. Judges all over the country were bought and paid loi How do 1 know? I lived in Seattle a id o.i Francisco during the Heyday of Dave ?e-- k t the Teamsters Union iu Seattle and Him Bridges of the Longshoremen's Union in Sar Francisco. I was calling on the medKul profcsum a, id also spent several months in Clmao rum when AJ Capone wus on top Those wore tho good old day-- , poibaps wo should return to them I Gcriiioiul-Ju- lt fi .! His unspoken response, however, was than Carter underperhaps more stands: he let it be known on background" that Defense Secretary Harold Brown will be sent to Peking to meet officially with Chinese defense chief Xu Xiang-qiaThats not just another pol getting his picture taken at the Great Wall. For the first time, about 15 of our top military planning and hardware experts will begin comparing notes with the Chinese, with the usual disclaimers of any intent to sell them weapons at this time. Although most senators missed the significance of this high-ris- k move. Sen. Orrin Hatch, called it rubbing raw the single most sensitive nerve of the Soviet Union. Three Different Approaches Within the administration, there have been three schools of thought about playing the Chinese card": 1. The Bluff. This uses rhetoric alone to worry the Russians, and is the posture we have been in until now. It is favored by dovish Walter David Aaron of the Mondale and his Brzezinski staff. The vice president said in a after his Aug. 29 speech in China: We are not Interested in a military relationship, and repeated in Hong Kong: We do not have and do not contemplate a military relationship with the Peoples Republic of China. The vice president was at that moment arranging the meetings between the U.S. and Chinese defense staffs. 2. The entangling alliance. This is the plan for the first stage of a military relationship, and is preferred by the Joint Chiefs of Staff: shared intelligence including a classified data link, electronic sensors to detect potential Invasion movements, the skeleton for future tactical cooperation. It was first suggested to the Ford administration in 1975 by Brzezinski, and was turned down either by Henry Kissinger or the Chinese. Proposal for Arming 3. The arming of China. This ranges from the sale of civilian technology transfer" equipment then can be quickly adapted for to encouraging the British military purposes and French to sell arms to China, to supplying anti-tanweapons and interceptor aircraft from the U.S. No school goes so far as to suggest supplying China with missiles to help deliver their nuclear weapons. This set of approaches Is discussed in detail In a Department of Defense document that has conte Into the possession of The New York Times: Consolidated Guidance 8: Asia During a Worldwide Conventional War. Sensibly, the which is not a statement of national study policy, but has the status of a Presidential states that in such a Review Memorandum nonnuclear war, It would be to our benefit to encourage Chinese actions that would heighten Soviet security concerns. Such encouragement could Include arms transfers or the employment of U.S. forces in joint operations." In his letter of transmittal to Secretary of Defense Brown, Assistant Secretary David E. McGiffert wrote on May 14 of this year: "The study indicates the participation of the PRC ex-aid- then-profess- could be the decisive factor in a prolonged conflict. However, it sheds little light on the issue of how the U.S. could increase the possibility for favorable Chinese involvement. I believe further study should be focused on this difficult question. The Joint Chiefs of Staff concur in this judgment. Contradiction Involved At this point, the cheap shot, or easy way, is to point to the seeming contradiction between Mondales assertion that we do not contemplate" a military relationship and the Defense Departments avid contemplation of the same, underscored by the public dispatch of the defense secretary to Peking soon after the Soviet Union publicly humiliated our president. Keep in mind, however, that defense contemplations are not agreed upon national policy. Before the first stage of the military relationship begins, we should ask ourselves what is in it publicly for us? Where will secure communications links, lead, and how soon? Can we calibrate from technology transfer the progression to allow for a Soviet response? to arms sales Decisions fundamental as these rate a great debate, not bland assurances to Americans that nothing is happening while we threaten the Russians with the move they fear most. Carter, by meekly accepting the unacceptable in Cuba, probably feels he has met the Soviet challenge with exemplary restraint. In fact, his public speech was an abject surrender to a Sovietmilitary probe, while his private action takes the first step on a dangerous path of secret commitments secretly arrived at. (Copyright) Senator Soaper The plainest-lookindisciplined child is twice as cute as the most beautiful brat. g Life is filled with change, but rarely for a dollar any more k "The president has decided to ask for the resignations of inflation, unemployment, and the encigy crisis." a |
