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Show r.iM Candidates Starling Final Push mm Public Talks Begin On Hostages F ate V li V Campaigns Focus On Swing Slates By Walter R. Mears Associated Press Writer CLEVEIAND President Carter and Ronald Reagan took up their eanrpwKn debate at a distance Wednesday. back among the voters in parallel quests for the support of major swing .tatef. that vil! make one of them a winner on Election Day. In the brief balance of their long White House contest, the two will be concentrating on much the same territthe battleground states which orycarry the bulk of the electoral otes. Position Misstated Carter, in Pittsburgh, forecast a victory for the Democratic ticket next Tuesday, and accused Reagan of misstating his own positions in the debate. Reagan, in Houston, said Carter refused to defend his record, he couldn't defend it, so he changed the subject. He said Carters economic policies are leading us into the dark ages. Both major party candidates claimed satisfaction and campaign gains out of their nationally broadcast debate in Cleveland Tuesday night. An Associated Press poll indicated that Reagan and Carter gained just about equally in the eyes of the registered convoters who viewed the their first and last. frontation Leaning Toward Reagan The survey also said that the television audience leaned Reagans way before the debate began. In the judgment of those viewers, Reagan did the better job as a debater; 46 percent saw it that way, 34 ixrcent said Carter did best. But neither Reagan nor Carter carved significantly into the support of the other. The debate, it appeared, firmed opinions about the two candidates, hut did not markedly change them. Their gains came largely among people who had been undecided, with a handful of registered voters who had sided with independent John B. Anderson switching to one of the major party contenders. Anderson, campaigning in Philadelphia, said the debate created the perception that the contest is now a two-ma-n affair, between Carter and Reagan. Anderson, who didnt make the Cleveland debate team, has staked his third-macampaign against exactly that view. He said he would keep trying very hard to remedy that, and insisted that he isnt out of the running. Carter was campaigning in Pittsburgh, Rochester, N.Y., Newark, ' - j m U Tugboats ease the Hughes Flying Boat into Long Beach, Calif., Harbor Wednesday. The huge craft was taken. . . By Associated Prei s The Iranian Parliament opened its first public debate on the American hostages Thursday, a spokesman said legislators said the session might lead to a vote on terms for the captives' release and one deputy said conditions hnd been set. The spokesman, reached by tele-- ' phone from Beirut at the Parliament, the Majlis, relations office in Tehran, said he was not sure how many of the 228 deputies had turned out for the debate on a cloudy and cold day in the Iranian capital. Urges Attendance Tehran radio earlier urged all members of Parliament to attend the open session. A quorum of 179 is required before the Majlis can go into session. Sources close to the talks said that after a heated debate Wednesday in which several members of the Majlis, or Parliament, stalked out, the members decided to hold the open session and vote on proposed conditions. Majlis speaker Hashemi Rafsanjani announced the session would lx open, according to Tehran radio, quoting the Pars news agency. But no mention was made of the vote. 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Weather Continued fair skies; temperatures; details on C-- Iran is bche ed to be sorely m need of spare parts for old I S made military equipment it h using in its war with Iraq We want the hostages to be freed the presidential election in the Inited Stutts next Tuesday, Khalkalt was quoted as say ing. When he arrived in Rochester, N.Y., for a eantpaign stop. President Carter was asked what was his understanding of Khalkalis statement was. I think it would be better for me not to comment until I see the exact statement on it. he said. Deputy Hussein Hashemian was asked if the decision would wait until after the elections and replied we do not consider the American elections as a factor in resolving the hostage crisis. Suggestions Denied He and an official at Khomeinis office, reached by telephone from Beirut, Lebanon, denied suggestions that the patriarch had urged the deputies to refrain from a decision so as not to influence the vote. Asked if new conditions had been added, Hashemian said, yes but we will make them public later. Several issues still were unsettled, but the condition of the shahs wealth remains, he said. We are debating on the apology." He predicted the talks would take four to six days. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the Iranian leader, has said the U.S. government should apologize for its support of the late shah's regime. But in September, when he set out in general terms Iran's demands, the apology wa? omitted. IIikfiands included return of the shahs fortune, a pledge of noninterference in Irans affairs, withdrawal of lawsuits against Iran and release of Iranian assets frozen in U.S. banks. Report of TV Time Some members suggested Iran be given three hours of U.S. television network time to air its grievances but this was not greeted favorably, the deputy said. Also Wednesday, presidential adviser Frank Moore was quoted as saying has Ruhollah Khomeini Ayotollah eaneer of the colon" and is not going to lat long " But the White House said it had no information that the Iranian ruler is terminally ill. Moore who heads the White House i onpresMuiinl liaison staff, was inter- tew ml Tuesday by the Shreveport (La.) Journal during a stop here while campaigning for Carter. During a discussion with editors about I S lonoem for .safeguarding Iran's intern. il .seeunty. M.xire repeated the Carter administration's It is not in our best jKisition that interest in the short range or in the long range to see Iran disassembled ... we need to see it stabilized. He was then quoted as adding: Khomeini has cancer of the colon ... lies not going to last long." Moore reportedly also said he expects the Iranian military to take over in the event of the Islamic holy mans death, probably a coalition of military leaders now serving Iran in its war with Iraq and some who were exiled following the shah's ouster. The Associated Press erroneously reported earlier Wednesday that Moore attributed that opinion to U.S. officials instead of himself Iran Says Troops Deserting BAGHDAD, Iraq (U PI ) Iran lashed out Wednesday at deserters leaving the trenches at the besieged oil capital of Ahwaz, calling them chickenhearted cowards who sought to hide like jackals," an indication the war may be going badly for Iran. In contrast, other military communiques by Iran and Iraq spoke glowingly of victory in the field, of dramatic attacks and advances against the enemy in the 38th day of the Persian Gulf war. Iran said it shot down two Soviet-mad- e Iraqi supersonic bombers and said 100 Iraqis were killed in air attacks on Iraq. 6 Men Burned It said six crew members from the bombers Were burnt in the fire of Another publicized counterproposal, Allahs punishment. that the United States remove the four Iraq, conceding the loss of the two surveillance aircraft it said they went down during an planes, in not was also Saudi Arabia, posted attack At Iranian military bases in well received, Rahmani said. Kilan and Ahwaz inflicting damages A handful of members walked out of and casualties. became as it session Wednesdays The broadcast from Ahwaz radio, apparent the issue was heading for monitored by the BBC in London, was was sources said. the It public scrutiny, in stark contrast to the regular flood of believed those members favored dragging out the debate behind dosed doors. reports from Tehran radio and the official Iranian Pars news agency and may indicate the war is not going well for the Iranians in Ahwaz, capital of Khuzistan province, Irans oil heartland. Trench Evacuation "People of Ahwaz, nothing is more important to the enemy than the ended before the enormous evacuation of our trenches, the broadpropeller-drive- n seaplane was cast said. It has been observed that a completed. group of army personnel are transferBehind Schedule ring themselves to other cities. move the They are resorting to every trick to parrequired Wednesdays tial dismantling of the old corregated avoid confrontation with the enemy, steel hangar, placing a steel cradle the report said. under the Gooses hull and then flooding It is important to all of us never to the hangars floor to a depth of 16 feet. desert the main fronts, which are the The plane has been insured through cities and villages, even though we may Lloyd's of London for $10 million during he killed or die on these fronts . . . w hat the tricky moving operation. It cost an is more beneficial, safer or more glorious than the trenches?" estimated $18 million to build. d Hughes Spruce Goose Comes Out of Hiding By Jerry Belcher and Robert J. Gore Angeles Times Writers LONG BEACH, Calif. Slowly, with the dignity of great age, Howard Hughes Spruce Goose slipped smoothly out of its hangar and into the Back Channel of the Port of Long Beach Wednesday, tne first time the worlds largest aircraft had moved in more than a quarter century. Two hundred workers who had been laboring around the clock to get the huge seaplane ready for the moving IjOS operation cheered and waved their hardhats. Traffic was reduced to a crawl on a nearby bridge as motorists slowed to take a gander at the world famous Goose. Last Journey The plane was tugged out of the partly dismantled hangar and into the channel on the first stage of its last journey. It eventually will be moved about a mile to a new museum hangar alongside the Queen Mary. U.S. Budget Runs $59 Billion in Red, Second Highest Deficit on Record By Mary Beth Franklin further ammunition against President Carters economic record. United Press International The Treasury reported the governThe nations WASHINGTON ment collected $520 billion in taxes in in in red the billion was $59 budget fiscal 1980, $2.2 billion above the the second highest deficit fiscal 1980 administrations July estimate that had on record, the government reported anticipated smaller tax receipts beWednesday, cause of the recession. over the While an improvement Income Tax Receipts economic administrations mid-yea- r It said individual income tax receipts projection, the 19S0 deficit was well at $244 1 billion were $3.4 billion almvc the $39.8 billion level proposed iti January and compares with the pre- higher than anticipated in July. But they were partially offset by a $900 vious year's $27.7 billion deficit. The announcement was contained in million reduction in corporate tax receipts and a $1 billion drop in excise the Treasury Department's first offitaxes reflecting a drop in tax receipts cial report on actual government on windfall oil profits. spending for the year ended Sept. 30, The report sold government spending and released Wednesday. also was slightly above the administraDelay Release of Report tions July projection, rising by $200 The monthly report originally was million to $579 billion. scheduled for last Friday, but complications in compiling the year-en- d figures delayed its release, Treasury officials said. The result was the report was made Youre in trouble if your wife phones and says you're eating out and when public after Tuesday nights presidential debates possibly depriving you gel home you find a sandwich on Republican nominee Ronald Reagan of the lit wit , Today's Chuckle - I radar-equippe- Inside The Tribune Tribune Telphone Numbers, Page A2 Majlis expressed guarded optimism over the xssibihty of a final decision being reached Thursday Irans religious Chief Judge S idegh hhalkah, also a deputy, predicted the debate will end early Thursday. according to a Swedish radio broadcast Khalkalt was quoted as saying Tehran wants to trade the C S hostages far arms before the C S. elections Nov . The increase in outlays $15.4 billion above the administrations January reflected increased unemforecast ployment compensation due to the recession and "unavoidable" spending increases in federal aid resulting from the Mount St. Helens eruptions, the Miami riots, this summers drought and heat wave, and the influx of Cuban and Haitian refugees. Additional Spending Hikes Defense spending also increased following tensions in Iran and Afghanistan. The result was a $59 billion deficit for fiscal 1980, down from the $60.9 billion predicted in July, but up substantially from the $39.8 billion anticipated in January. The lurgest deficit ever recorded was a time when billion in 1976 $66.4 government spending and tax receipts were each at least $200 billion less than last years levels. The Treasury stuck to Its estimate for fiscal 1981's deficit of $29.8 billion the budget the administration had promised to balance and at one time had hoped to produce a surplus. There, for the first time, the Spruce Goose will be placed on public exhibition. It is scheduled to go on display sometime next year. The Spruce Goose, with a wingspan of 320 feet, had been hidden in the old hangar since 1954. It made its first and last Right Nov. 3. a low and slow skimming hop with the late billionaire Hughes at the controls. Constructed of wood, it originally was intended as a troop transport for World War II service. But the war 1947, Helens Keeps Two Pilots Flying High SCAPPOOSE, Ore. (AP) Eruptions of the Mount St. Helens volcano gave Lloyd Williams aviation firm a welcome Ixxi.st. Williams and his partner, Hank Anderson, operate Columbia Pacific Aviation at Scappoose Airport, about 45 miles southwest of the southwestern Washington volcano. Since March, when the volcano began a series of eruptions, geologists, photographers and sightseers have been booking flights out of Columbia Pacifics office. I stoppixl counting at 154 trips, Williams said of the number of flights he and his instructors have made over the volcano. "Weve hnd no close calls," he said. "We have yellow streaks. If we see anything dangerous, we just don't do it. I eight-engin- e, Warrantless Search OK, Nixon Testifies at Trial - Fortner PresWASHINGTON (AP) ident Richard M. Nixon, testifying in the trial of two former FBI officials, told a federal court jury Wednesday that the director of the FBI had authority to conduct warrantless break-inin foreign intelligence cases. Nixon said the authority to approve rested with the presisuch break-in- s dent, but that the power was extended to the FBI director. In matters of foreign intelligence the line (of authority) went directly from the president to Mr. (J. Edgar) Hoover," Nixon said. Nixon said that authority rested "with the office, not the man," and was passed on to L. Patrick Gray III. who became acting FBI director after Hoover's death in 1972. Crucial Question in Trial The question of authority to conduct break-in- s without a warrant is crucial in the U.S. District Court trial of W. Mark Felt, the FBIs former No. 2 man, of the and Edward S. Miller, intelligence division. They are aeeused of violating s idual civil rights hy authorizing warat resirantless searches in 1972-7dences of friends and relatives of fugitives involved with (he radical Weather Underground Both men admit authorizing the break ins in New York City and New Jersey, hut contend they received general approval for their actions from Gray. The defense contends that Gray had the legal authority to approve the v 3 break-ins- . Called War Criminal' Just after Nixon took the stand, several ersons were ejected from the courtroom after beginning a demonstration against the former president, who resigned at the height of the Watergate scandal in 1974. The demonstrators called Nixon a war criminal" and yelled that he committed genocide." As he took the witness stand. Nixon smiled at the startled jurors, who have been sequestered during the seven-wee- k trial. When Nixon was asked, How are you employed?" he replied: "Retired. f |