| Show 1 DISCOURSE 18 C 0 U ra E pt LL kmeil deh urn p rat R 7 J belt DELt DELIVERED VERED IN 2 tae the e thirteenth dard ward d e cl hot wog e sunday afternoon 1873 ltv imO inD yli III V 11 VANS VAINS ACC dio afo our dur U sual usual caslo custom M we have assem asEem assembled bied bled on olt tin tilis the first day of the week to partake or of the sacrament as a witness s before god and angels I 1 und as a testimony pao poo ob a to another that we ne are do de to keep ahe the lle ile lie commandments of the hc most lii iii high 11 and to obey ble bie law and th the ordina ordinances becs of lis lana lanc idna kingdom the order of things thins nc we nrc are ilow pow jiow celebrating we vve have eudy cudy endy endeavored ca ored aj to observe from the organization of tills tilis I 1 lis ils church charch it has been our practice tile tice when circumstances would permit to y assemble ass asE embie emble every sabbath day aay for this purpose and also aiso to express one oue to aijo another ther then our dds desires ires and to bear bean our testimonies concerning tiie the tile tru truth and also to preach when wo we felt the spirit to doso boso do so I 1 iveel this afternoon to investigate I 1 tc b corej this assembly home tome of the destini di i characteristics between this ibis peg pie pic and the tile various vallous religious del dei denomme lions of christendom ido I 1 do not do thi particularly fo for the tho edification aud d saints but as probably many now an cut erbane had the opportunity of learning tile tiie differ difference enec ence which exists between tile ralth raith of t a latter day saints saint and that of other reng loag io is denominations I 1 pre presume supie that it t would be td them to liv have some of these things spoken or of ull uli the present occasion we differ in ijar oun religious laith falth and notions in some things winch which I 1 con r lder ider to be of essential importance to the r salvation of 0 the children of meu men in n some sonic of pur nur doctrine and falth faith we do t so much with religious people ill brally as might he be supposed suppo sett sctt 0 eln ein edn cin ahm wo we belleve believe in the exist eilee clive bf tir a i 0 6 13 ing our heavenly eather father we vve believe also in the existence of I 1 his hig its an fc n jesus christ as aa the savior of the world non uon leland liland and that he through t tle tic shedding of his ing has opened a way by which tile tiie failen fallen sons and daugh daughters tos tas of the chil chii dran of men may be saved I 1 belleve believe eliat lvery every christian denomination has the same bame views view k in regard to the atone ment mentor of christ chrict and that they as well as we believe li in the yat Fat father her hen sou and icely gho t wa als ais q belleve beneve that it 1 r aut nut ank and bec necessary essary that all nua rua mankind ki n d should repent of and forsake their sins gins andt and that hat they should forsake for frake every thlin eliat that is is con contrary arary to the lavy law of god and that Is ia in lri violation of his bis institutions everything immoral and unholy that we hate have been in the habit or practicing th that at we should repent of these things lot nol merely in word brt absolutely repent of and put them away I 1 tc I 1 lieve elleve thit all denominations who believe id iti christ also relieve ip hl rc repentance hence to BO far as faith ralth in god bather and in his son jesus christ Chr lit and ind repentance and reformation arc ara con coll canned earned thele thore are few distinguishing char us and the outside carld we also aiso believe that it Is import ant for every person who wishes to ob lain the forgiveness of his lis vins ins to babad sized in water immersed in ahe the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost for their remission JQ irl this we a dinnon dinnen mith with most of the religious world orid orld I 1 bileve belleve that the sect which chic called believe in being baptized in water forthe remission of sins sing the Tho church Charch of england also tellene in baptism fortha for the rems remission of sins lins but they do not administer admInIs Ur that ordinance by im in mer emersion sion slon wo we also believe that when a person illas has repented repent ad and has been leen baptized for the remission of his lis sins uy by one having authority to administer ibis ordinance his sins will be kae forgiven not but phat aliat the lord has jil III n borne instances on ori record far V an the sins of partle partie be before ra baptism gly we c have some account in both ancient and modern time of the lord having done thib this the prophet jc joseph pil obtained a forgiveness or of his hib sins rans before baptism and also the gift of the holy nois ghost but kut the leason reason probably was that no church that had haz ican organized after the ancient pattern at the time he received the administration of the an angels els eis and there being no minister authorized to administer baptism and the laying 1 ayli on of hands the lord in ia that instance stan cc dispensed with the forms and ordinances din an anees ances ees ces recorded for that purpose iu in the new testa testament luhna and granted unto him both these blessings the forgiveness of sins and the gift of the holy ghost before he was baptized he tran translated translate d the tho greater creater part of the book of mormon by the gift and power of the holy ghost through theair we have au an account or of at least oue one in clance in ancient times where the holy noly ghost was ziven eiven before baptism that is the case of cornelius the holy ghost was poured out upon him and upon his household before they were baptized it was C contrary to the ordinance und and the tu form ford that had bad been laid dawn in the gospel but lint on that occasion it was evidently given for a special purpose namely to convince the brethren who accompanied paten peter ta the place where corle corie cornelius lius ilus lived that their traditions concerning the gentiles were incorrect and to pro proe a to them that the gentiles were heirs beirs of mot as well is as the jews thelora the lord lora condescend ed bd while peter was speak speaking inz to cornelius and his house honse to upon them the holy ghost and they with tongues and prophesied before they were baptized when peter saw that the ic holy ghost G host hosi had been bestowed upon them he be turned to the jewish breth brethren refi and said apo who can forbid water that these wih wah should uld be baptized seeing they hivo havo received the holy ghost as 43 well as aa we on the day of pentecost when we are arc I 1 told three thousand were thein weir hearts arts and dc desired irad to know what they s oum cl do the answer ewert i wa wai war that they krould repent of thor ainu bing they I 1 already believed boror before they thet repented the testimony or of peter rater and tile the rest of ty that jesus wms ims was tile the tery teny clorist cli cil dist rist tb they j bellev believed edd thebe these old testament ment scriptures that related to him which wone wore quoted by the apostle reter reler on that occasion and they were C pricked in their hearts if they had not that jesus was the christ they would not have bave iwen leen pricked letb luth iu their thein it lim hc arund arand convicted of glo gln lut they I 1 a una the answer vi of peter to their inquiry about wll wil what hould do VJ tu be saved was way and und be baptized every one of yort yori in lri the nah nab idoft jesus christ for tiit tiie remission of yo you shall receive the holy ghost can nut not every everi person who aijo reflects reflect re fleets a moment on 11 th this Is passage ss see that tuat oie ole he remission of gis aura anra ea sins bins aud nud the holy ghost were two hiess ings promised atter after annd anid fiatti fund find baptism for the remis ion lon of sins when the people of samaria inamaria heard the i reaching of phlip they ahey aito aiso believe belleve dand and repented and they were and there was great joy oy in ia V that lat city no doutt douht their ghis were here then Alien ra an levent event which would cause cauce joy aud an d batis pact fact oll oil but bul thero there was nui noi one soul of all hose hoge converts n u Smi S larla laria neither i v man non nor woman who had ACC iveda t trie he holy Gli ihunt fist they tad had atily ahl fused d in Christ alid received the of lus ius tins ins but none of iTie lile iti lii iii were as asyet yet act y caborn born of the tile spirit sin Sif irit when achen the apostle apostles which alani aicard thau that Samaria had received alp word of god which philip had preached unto them they bent acut peter and john Joh johnana nand and they came cinie down t liia sila aina abua rloand knelt down and hi med ned fo mothese these baptized t re cel ceo give ve the holy ghost yet set the scripture he had not falle falie ii ul on uny 0 I 1 them only they had been in lly 11 nie hie le name of the tiie lord jesue and when they h hid 0 pr iyce vet for them they tiley laid their hands hanos upon theirl them and they received the holy ulios t 11 now they must have hare received on that eca ion slon something that wa was powerful and J so much fo eo that thai it itself manire manrot I 1 even to bystanders the fesson which I 1 have for ile iye lieving believing this is in consequence a of what S simon imon 3 I 1 a an 1 sald said and did on that occasion lie ile canle canie to the apostle peter reter and offering money to him said baid give me also aiso this power that on whomsoever whom bover boter I 1 lay my hands bands be IL a ay y receive the bibly groht 11 lie ile was war evidently convinced cirii einred that there was vas a power made manifest on oil that bc casion caslon and as head been fe a sorcerer and had deluded and people in former time and had evidently come into the church with a corrupt heart he ilo no douht wished to obtain this eer power ver to to aid him in ills future operations ope ti on but B t let thy money ii gy p perish rih with thee I 1 perceive that th thy y ll 11 heart t I 1 is not right in the sight of god liere mera then was waa a sacred ordinance ordin ahee which I 1 wish to call your attention lot to namely the laying oil of hands the tho the samaritans samaritana Samar itans bad had no doubt bielIc believed ved Ted As as firmly as ever persons could believe belleve they thet they had repented as much gs as any persons could repent th they 4 had complied wilh with the ordinance of baptism for the jhc thc remission 0 or o nuns nung annd anid wm were nihed dined with arc great at jor jot jo t in inconsequence con of the forgiveness of their sin eins efus but with all this why did they not ot r receive the holy ghost why was it not sent froni front heaven as dt ms was on because Bc causo thero there warp n none one present on that that needed to be convince convinced ed as in the gaie gaic cae of the liou hou cooj ebol of df co cornelius no jewish brethren thereto there to forbid wat icho no ones there to hate have their traditions corrected and copse conse the lord didiot did not bot give a op bin to them but when they were he ilc hent tent upon them tile the idoly ghosh ghost through the sacred ordinance of the laying on of hands that is as much an ordinance as baptism I 1 sicre then is one instance we differ lif from the main maln port portions portio lo of the religious world itis it is true the church of england practices confirm confirmation anon adon they lay hands upon apon no ho account of tile the gifts follo ministration among the of that church hurch such as the gift of tongues ng anh and the various gitts gifts of the spirit aro arc withheld we differ then f from nom nem the outside religious world ill in this one ordinance di nance no person comes conics into this church and Is acknowledged to be in fall fellow ship as a member of the church unless one or more of tile the servants i a of god have administered the sacred ordinance of the laying on of hands bands expressly for the baptism of fire and the voly holy ghost I 1 do not know why it was that thai the lord established this ordinance ile DC seems to have in lri all ages bestowed blessings upon the children hild cen can of men through simple ordinances ordinance and he ile seldom gave blessings unless thom those ordinances bances nances were complied with when the angel augel came to Cd cornelius and ano told him that his prayers and ills his alms had bad ascender up lip before god as a memorial he be did not see proper oil on that oc occasion cAslon to ie should db in order to be saved luthe buthe bat he oid told old him to dmd bend for peter Petera petena fetera and cd he be would tell teli him words whereby hearld his house should be sad saved cornelius had bad faith enough in in that angel to actually gend bend for peter Ther there was ewas something required on oa vile tile pirt of cornelius comellus to in manifest hlis hins falth ralth god something required of the children of israel when they were to toi take the city of jericho it would have hare been an easy eary matten matter in at tir tin for god to have thrown down the wf of if in an rin instant without mal i y requirement of the children of isra lira bulhe buthe eig tig to try their faith so BO teiei tim were veto vete comman commanded d to pass pabs round the wails walls tf t J f the ety once onee aday a day and aud oneace day when they erl eri compassed the tho f wadia wui they ibey were to blow rams horns op jonii i seventh dantley dayt hey bey were to go round theoa the walis wails lis its of I 1 hc be city seven times and when they hail bail ha 3 com comb their jt last circuit on the cetan seventh tb they were ivere to give a certain blasl with 11 br horn aud d a 0 air the tho people wui to give a is t anen the tho walls were acre to fall dowd down now w could not tim tl lord have done w without out going through nil nii that process 0 oh yes but aft he did not see fec proper to do so ho wanted to try the laith of that people to geo gee whether they would lc be obedient to that which he be required of them when they bad had shown their faith naith by their thein then the power of god was inus mildd made manifest adani it is so in III relation to baptism ahda we have shown that we behave have faith falth in god and in and or his kingdom whet when we prove our oun ourt ouri efm in the tho principle of baptism by i ota dc e t thereto h erato lve ive we vve then obtain the remission or of our sins eins when whence rc have hate balyi enough to hate lihme hinds hands laid upon us u for lor tap of the holy ghost after 11 tein lein chib chig baptized the lord sees that we are complying plying g wai ahe the of his hll kindom and he be is hilll willing n to iw ile tow fow t be the bl bles bies Cs bins bing odthe holy ghyst when we wc have faith enough to HO go to the house of worship on the first day of tile the week an and doffer offer up our t the lord according ind ing to this mis via commandments he W fore him that we are willing to rap keep liis ills commandments but when cx cuse cuge we neglect this week weer arter after deek week we chow that we arg are careless and t and the influence of the liol lioi roly holy spirit which we would otherwise enjoy enoy as saints it IS withheld from vs us let none experiment on lat ter tor d day saints in come to meeting it is this their privilege io do BO and aud bibo biso neglect tilts dithie ordinance winch which tho the lurd jias instituted in commemoration pf af the death find rind sufferings of lils ills son for if they continue to do this without any reasonable excuse they will soon helln helin to be darkened in their minds winds hence zou you bee that all ill tair th f e however E impie in their ia nature iture are instituted of the lord and if wa me have T elot diot lot biot falth faith sufficient to corm |