Show f myum Co coat Vt february 1873 E aitor editor ewer neww SIR in my letters letteri of the tilo esth and loth instant I 1 set sot forth a few fen things relating lating c to machinery in this I 1 intend to notice schools law and religion after writing from ohio I 1 visited teda a class claps cla cia ps of people known as shakers who have havo their Thrall family yin in warrensville Warrens ville cuyahoga Cuya hoga coun county ty ohio on going into tilo tile neighborhood at my brother in laws I 1 learned they had bad ceased for the winter winte to hold public meetings I 1 therefore f ore oro through his influence obtained permission I 1 to visit the settlement tio sio and a old on sunday u aday to attend their worship on the tilo arrival of the tile day myself iny my youngest daughter and mr cannon my brother in law attended their meeting it was held in a ell large house prepared for meetings having at one end two doors and anci two ante auto rooms room at the other the them lne ine meeting eting room we we were seated at the tile back end of the meeting room this tilis room was without seats chairs being used at the time for tile the commencement of the services a signal was given and the men and the women commenced coming into the tile room bringing with them their chairs the women coming from one ante chamber and the men from the other tile tiie men seated themselves on one side of the room in three rows and the women seated themselves oil on the other otiler side in three rows all being comfortably seated the tiie men and women facing each oiher other oilier a further signal was given when all ali 1 arose elrose and saluted each other by a respectful bow the tile men bowing to the women and the women bowing to the men after this there ther ewas was singing in one hymn all joined and in another only part of them there was no instrumental music one of the men at a signal arose and delivered a short sermon a part apart of or which embraced the reading of what they understood to bo be a revelation given through ann lee some years ago this related to what was to take place upon the earth and in my opinion was not and could not have been thought by them to be of any very vital importance from the sermon however I 1 gleaned a few items of their faith or at least thought I 1 did and so I 1 will relate them as understood by me first in their opinion christ will come conic to redeem man not woman second ann lee Lo came to redeem abman woman thus through the instrumentality of these thesa two mail man and lomeii women are both to be redeemed third the woman is tile glory of 0 f tile man fou fourth rafi that god c created i iheria male and female and that the tile godhead is male and aud female fifth that christ lived ina lna in 1 state of celibacy so to bo be christ ilke like the men must live in ill ha a state pato of celibacy sixth that ann lee lived in a state of celibacy so the women lomeii to live ann lee like must live in a state of celibacy seventh that all must bring brink their bodies into subjection to tb this lm law eighth that selfishness should be done away hence as to property ity they should have lave all things co common M after this tilis sermon and reading and singing which lasted about forty minutes or a little more they wor worshipped shipped the lord in a few fow dances this was accompanied with kocal vocal music the men dancing on ong one side sido of the room and the tho women on the other but all taking the same steps and all keeping good glod time the steps were very pretty all was concluded with a marchi to aid in this march theme there was singing and beating beatin the time with the hand all marching ing round the room the men in a body leth leading d in I 1 and the women in a b body fo following lowi this march like all their heir t ceremonies was orderly erly eris on the meeting being concluded we were invited to take like supper with them which wo we did and were taken to toa a receiving room where whore sat a woman Sha Shaker korer kerer wilo who entertained torta ined us a few minutes I 1 had bad nearly forgotten to state thai that on our arrival wo we were talieh taken to this room and this same pertained us till tho the time of repairing 1 ng to church soon after a man came into inta the room and the tho woman left while this man was with us we entered into conversation on off the subject of the godhead be being mg iesh I 1 A S maie male ma and female fornai fornal 6 and tilo the woman oman w being the glory of the tile man roan however no new idea was advanced on this subject in talking with him learned Ue arned pd that jin MA ihla 0 person had joined their 0 order for five years past except out of worldly selfish motives it not being my desire now to apih ion about their religion and its harmony or disagree disagreement merit with the revelations contained in the bible I 1 can only add that I 1 thought them sincere in their re religious beilen belief the women werm were dressed in the uniform shawer shaker costume lo oldrig looting neat but the men were not dotso so dress cd ed it is difficult for a person of my turn of mind to observe what I 1 ob served there without forming some idea as to the effect of the religion on society and on the communicants themselves if th they eyvere were happy that happiness did not produce such an all eject on their countenances as the happiness of others does on theirs at our supper table this man was seated beside my daughter and my brother in law and myself side by side on the other side of the table and this woman waited upon us during the time of taking supper chisman tills man conversed conver sod freely with my daughter daught erand and this tills woman conversed with like freedon with myself anda and und my brother in inlaw law T this we supposed was unusual we having supposed before that it was waa against their rule for tile the two sexes to hold conversation in 14 tins this way you perceive there were only five persons in the room when in lir cleveland ohio teai teal te I 1 called al on all an acquaintance who informed me that lie he was waa not a member of but was in sympathy with a religious people living in the state of lyew ew york called tile the oneida onelda community this gentleman requested me to call and see them saying that in the controversy between us and the political raiders last year these people had written several pieces which he no thought were w eme ere penned by wise and good men and that in ill them just views had been taken I 1 therefore consented to call this man ga gave ve mea moa me introduction and also wrote to them on the subject on my passing the place I 1 called and stopped over night they arm are living in a stately matl mail mansion and the house la is furnis furnished lied in a magnificent manner there were there as I 1 was informed a little mom more than two hundred persons composed of men men and women in in about equal numbers and children in about equal proportion one of their number a very intelligent tell igent mail man took me around the house and showed me its general geli gell eral plan which I 1 thought was ver very y convenient indeed As some duee idea concerning it is necessary to understand der stand my remarks hereafter to be made I 1 proceed to stati state that thae the cooking isai isal is nil all I 1 done in the basement the dinin groom which is large isk ise enough foscat more than on one ono hundred persons sons is on the first floor i dersons Ier ler this la s furn furnished dished with good tables sufficiently large lange to seat about ton persons each tile the family room zoom which is gery iery very large farge and commodious is on the tile second flor floor the receiving room MOM also large lson ison is on the first floor 1 I the day I 1 was there they dined dined at a t about three throe pm which was their usual ilour vilet viler when vliet I 1 was was invited invite d to dinner dinn e r there thre were in the room seated around the tables about ono hundred persons bom dom composed of melr men annit ariit women enn eft in bout abut equal numbers they informed me that as their dining room was wis small another table tabie haddo hadbo had 40 be bet set in the same samer room for tho Jd balance lance the tables tales erg aro ere all ail I 1 furnished with great variety of food enough and good enough for foy foT princes dinces hild and princesses p aze age c L ages hii bil all ill seemingly orlu fading faring g alike during the dining convex latib r I 1 was going ow OTT about bout a the tho tables and abou t the ta tabia tabla gle gie bla wilbre where J r matthe men and aind women joined in conversation I 1 iia lia hayo haxo ye jio ilo doubt it was eo so about the tho theother other talles tables after dinner the who first ali it received me took their theli horse borse and sleigh to see their factories they had bad a machine shop a trap factory and a silk fact orv the and trap factory werm were vier i c operated by men the wk factory factor y by T young oung women chiefly catholics as I 1 was informed they were ali alf presided avor by li T men of orthe ortho the tho community c i oni faith these facto factories were to me very interesting their business ahio alio mount untA to tb sobie same three or four fohr hundred dol doi lars per annum and requires some one ono ano ar ortho two hundred per person ibur all of ishm y of ae ka iha whom are employed persons not of the tha community faith faiths kb no doubt in my mind but that often lle ile rib lie sets seta one manufactured by people iio jio with whom he is not ac acquainted quain ted and when the tailor threads his hii needle with silk he liel is svery very often da doing it by a peculiar people and BO so I 1 may add with those who use uso machinery after examining these shops we returned to the house and j I 1 was invited to a family meeting held in tile the family room before re referred fOrred to here were seated around tables some two hundred persons men and women the women had each some little work on hand such as knitting and sewing the men as usual in such cases without work all in a social leto lete a lete after remaining half halt all an hour or so they requested me to speak to them which I 1 did but at first I 1 was wassil slightly vother itly embarrassed not knowing 11 whether to arise or remain seated sered but concluding that all wanted to lie lle hear ar I 1 nrose arose aro e and made a few mirthful remarks I 1 told them our views on the marriage relations some thing of our modo mode of doing business and of taking care of the poor adding that we had some men who did their own thinking and all of it and I 1 perceived that they also had men and most moat likely women who did their own thinking on religion and on business after taking my seat sheat they tiley informed me they did all things by the consent cfall of all ali I 1 was then tilen introduced to an intelligent tell teli igent lady with whom I 1 conversed freely for about half an hour she then invited me to go in tile the marm morning ng with her to their nursery and see their children to which I 1 consented in the morning after breakfast this woman and another took me to hee fee their children they tiley were in a room by themselves with one of their number in charge all playing with little childish toys happy as kittens larger children wei wel were in another room bow how for their religion tills this I 1 learned from conversation only I 1 find that they believe in revelations and consequently believe the bible hible they tiley believe that soi sol nish fish ness should be done away and as oneff one of the results of this no one man mary lias has a right to appropriate any woman to his hia own exclusive use and that no woman has bas a right i to 0 appropriate to her hor b er exclusive use an any one man that sexual cohabitation exists lawfully both on earth and in haayen that ill in heaven tiley are neither married nor aro arc given in marriage and therefore on earth the sanie same rule ought to prevail in short they think the tile have adopted is the e rule ob observed se rv 4 A ill in b heaven ea ven As to likewise think each earh should have au val equal interest and all fare alike I 1 found here several mentho men who informed me they had llad been episcopal gl preachers and had bad left that doctrine and had joined this from a t sense of duty I 1 inquired of severa fc everal 1 of each sex if they were happy in lit their condition their universal answer was that they tiley were and more so than the they ay should be in tile tho single raie maie or polygamy ic state but to some 1 11 I said you are now ito ita rich III lii in actual affluence how would it b bo if you were wore poor joor the reply was wv we have been poor very poor we were then happy believing ing our doctrine to be right here hero boehnen aoth both uen men nen and women are intelligent in conversation chaste courteous and kind hero here they tiley are bere were H ere ene they are educated they have schools fbi foi the tile young henry ward beecher was the next to tb be ba heard by me llie I 1 found im a man but the thesus sub mot not dt of an any general interns In teres teros ris wis beyond b and brooklyn and anil new Kew NeviO york mork M tk hs object was way to aid the poor of the cities clues and tho the herc afore borm fore he reached clied olied a karnoil E i a sympathizing manne he heis heiy is clearly ic a lifshe theatrical lias as it strong wong hold bold an jlia aila hearers but he said nothing more than what might have hae reasonably been expected frold from a man of a fruitful imagination having confidence in himself and in his audience in a place cherp tho pinn plan ian iau of 0 iho fo lohouse house wois sio slow siow vi in iu thought and motion but nirta firta and immovable in his opinions and tho tilo wife warm hearted heni ted and a chango change ve remark referred forred re to the he alli alii ati antl rill olics A Awo word idor or two from me mo call calfi ad forth denunciation of tha bover est king kind and as evidence ot of the f their vis viet s tham thum re ar fored ferr ferretto eTlo mauo maio a book at c d r trials adith and persecutions of edith 0 ogorman gor otherwise sister teresa de cl chantal lantai of st josephs convent I 1 borrowed the book for a few days mys on examination I 1 found it to be what might with some just na A vindication allori ortho authoress own conduct and with equal justness it may be termed a repudiation of the catholic doctrine of celibacy it was written by a young lady who had been a nun but who wilo is now a married woman tilo the book showta bovere severe test of religious experience per pern peri lence ence many of our readers here had the opportunity to hear miss 0 0 gorman the author says she sho was brought up a catholic and after stating some of her experience says at a confession 1 I to told him meaning the tile confessor I 1 derived no benefit be i from iny my devotions to mary meaning rig the mother of christ nor from frequenting the sacraments of confessions fes or communions comm unions that I 1 failed to find delight or satisfaction in worldly pleasure pleasures ac and that I 1 was most unhappy he ad advised me in the most affectionate manner to enter a convent as it evidently was my vocation and tile the only way I 1 could cou save bave a 0 my n y soul lie he extolled the vocation of celibacy as is the very highest grace that god could be stow upon his creatures telling me I 1 could receive riece lve ive no gloater proof of gods love for me than in being called to bo be the bride of his only son christ jesus and not the tile bride of a meme mere sinful creature man he pictured tholise th the elife olife life ilfe of a nun as the tiie most hoj boj holy and perfect exa example of christ M and mary 1 in the entire book I 1 have not found a single sentence more significant ant and 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