| Show DISCOURSE I 1 B by president ent keber 0 kimball tabernacle march 19 1854 during the pa past winter I 1 have spoken but seldom in this tabernacle for I 1 have been engaged in teaching in u other places were the false traditions of past and present generations thrown off entirely it t would be much to the advant advantage a of this people and of the human buman family 70 jesus us christ could not teach his disciples as freely and as publicly as he otherwise would had he not been bound from the I 1 same cause thore there are many who think that because a they aye are unlearned they have not the same amount of tradition as those who are learned but there is is I 1 not much difference between the th two classes in this respect the inhabitants to of odthe the whole earth are coated over as it were with false traditions which form an almost impe impenetrable etrabel 1 e barrier to ahe the shafts ortruth of truth I 1 I 1 am not what the world calls a learned man neither is president young we never went to any college except the one sustained by the latter day saints and we have been in that from the beginning let me tell you gentlemen and ladies if we had been brought up in palaces and been sent to school all the days dayh of our lt lives vesto to get all the education of the th world and were practical trion men only in these chese things would we be of any advantage to this people A man may pass a course of education designed to fit him for a doctor a minister or a lawyer and it is often the case that he comes out an igno ratana or worse than useless member of society i Pros president ident young and I 1 were born bora of poor but honest and d 1 industrious i u d s arious parents in the state of Vermont when h e n it wa was new and we have been in new regions of country from that day to the present time except when we were in ia the british isles preaching the gospel of salvation to a perishing world we have cleared and subdued tho the land at various points from vermont to this place so that we have hadano opportunity for becoming 9 what the world calls educated but if it were possible for we ne to exellen exchange ge my information for that of the most learned man inan upon the earth I 1 would not do it it would be like exchanging a good substantial dal warm suit of clothing for a mess of filthy rags he has hap not my experience it cannot be purchased with money nor can men by all their Je learning arning attain to it altho I 1 have not education of a worldly nature I 1 have bare a spirit in me that knows right from wrong what is true education and want is not there is quite a difference between the true education that all men should have and that which pertains merely to this life thol tho when coupled together they are both good when the flowers begin to bloom on the mountain tA insides sides the ladies try to imitate them with ar ti tf ficia ones which you yon rather possess in education the real flower or the artificial one would you not rasher have true education direct from than the artificial one of the world the one educates the head and the heart the other the head alone I 1 I 1 the circumstances I 1 have named rendered it impossible for me to obtain the education of this world yet the education we have received fro fron n god has qualified me and my brethren to instruct kings and rulers and bring to nought the wisdom of their wise men I 1 do not wish you to understand from these remarks that you may with propriety relax your endeavors to educate your children when you have an opportunity I 1 should have educated my children but I 1 have been poor and penniless instead of helping my children who haven have now ow c come om a to maturity they have been required to h heh me obtain an honest subsistence this would not have been the cue case could I 1 have retained my possessions but no sooner sooner had I 1 accumulated a little property than it wp was I 1 taken from me by legalized mobs and neither nol ther me nor my brethren ethron Or could obtain redress I 1 I 1 query juery which is the most profitable at present to this people and to the ruing rising pred dent dank YO and heber hebe C kimball or their children You all say let the fathers instead of the children for the tiros time being some som aulo say put the children to school and let the old men work until they are dmd dead 1 dead deada dead 1 I 1 say lot let the boys help the father and let the father and the mother live as long as they can aud and n t let lat the daughters also do their part for life is as I 1 sweet to the parents as to the children life ilfe is just as sweet to me now as ever it was but the world has lost I 1 its to sweetness to me I 1 A person asked me this morning how I 1 it t was wa that the enjoyments enjoy ments of this world in ahia which he used to take great pleasure had bad sunk so much in his es estimation ti mation he said the theatrical performances and other amusements used to give him much satisfaction and comfort then the real and substantial pleasure and happiness which I 1 h lie he now now enjoys in heavenly realities was not in in his posse possession ss ion he therefore took comfort in abw I 1 bials but when the real rose blushing in the midst of its own heavenly perfume attracted we his notice the gum am flowers lost their charms when wen mormonism Monnon ism absorbs the whole soul it yields such a rich feast to the passenger ge r that iw earthly e athly enjoys enjoy enjoyments ments ants become insipid and valueless I 1 have attended d theatrical performances from which many good morals can be gleaned I 1 ibave I 1 also engaged in the dance which is good exercise to the body but when compared with the tho eternal realities of our holy religion these enjoyments enjoy ments are I 1 in in comparison like chaffoo chaff to the sterling wheat the one contains the essentials of life the other is c comparatively valueless when I 1 go ga to it a dance it is tp to please my brethren ethren tr and ray my family at the same sa time thinking I 1 may perhaps get gei the spirit of dancing and when I 1 do I 1 improve it and engado an gage in it as in mormonism Monnon ism with all aft my heart mind I 1 and strength I 1 cara care not what I 1 do if I 1 do not do wrongs so that it comforts myself my family or in my y brethren but anything that is wrong anything that violates the holy principles of chastity virtue and holiness I 1 say aay away wi with h I 1 it t and let me he be asso x or stated I 1 atod with principles of righteousness and you w who ho want it may take the whole budget of the world and its fleeting pleasures only let me have I 1 the khe pure unalloyed metal and all who desire it i are a a freely welcome tp the dross this people taking them as a community I 1 be oe I 1 lieve would exchange baay errors lor for one truth troth and one truth is worth all the errors in existence yea further one principle of truth and rig righteousness ht is worth the accumulated accumulate ed wealth of ell all the world with all ltd its pomp titles and tinseled I 1 I 1 show the deoss which is separated front from iron I 1 ore is of no great value balue but the metal is of worth I 1 t to 0 ma make keiron iron and a teals steel which can be converted in into to utensils for the use us of man iian such as plows shears spades shovels ac gold is valuable as a I 1 1 a circulating medium because scarcity compared with other metals otherwise it has no particular I 1 value more than any other portion of the 9 globe lobe only in 14 administering I 1 to the necessities I 1 I 1 of I 1 man so far ag as we WB are conee concerned arned we were takes taken from the earth and we may expect to return to it again and that portion of me which as pure afo af I 1 ter the dross of this mortality is separated from it I 1 a expect poat will be brother heber it is that which will a be resurrected but all that is ii not pure will remain I 1 that is it if will not go back into ray my body gain again a and if there are ten parts pails out of the hundred which are dross and corruption they will remain in the earth iao not expect to take that up again but I 1 expect to take up the purified element that will endure for foi ever still the dross drosa is u b beneficial a in its place I 1 expect that will be be the case with brother willard itt rd richards he ha has goul gone and it will not be long before brother Bri ghana and heber follow after he has gone to the world of spirits to engage in ia a work vork he be gouid co in id not do if he had remained la in the tha flesh I 1 do not believe he could have done aa much work for the I 1 general good of the cause of god had he remained in the flesh as he can accomplish com now jn inthe the spirit for there is a work borc to do there the gospel to preach israel to gather that they may purify themselves and become united in ope one heart and mind what in th the spirit espirit world have I 1 not tou told you often that the separation of body and spirit makes no difference in the morals moral and intellectual condition I 1 of the spirit when I 1 a person who has always been I 1 goods good and faithful to his a god lays down his body in the dust his spirit will remain the same in the spirit world it is not the body that has control over the spirit as to its disposition dispo 1 IK but it is the spirit that controls the body when n the spirit leaves the bo body dy the body becomes lifeless the spirit has not changed one single particle of itself by leaving the body were I 1 to fall into a mud hole I 1 should strive to extricate tr myself but I 1 do not suppose I 1 should be I 1 an any better any more righteous auy ariy more just an and holy when I 1 got out of it than while I 1 was t I 1 in it A i our spirits spirit a are entangled in 1 u these bodies held beld captive c ap as it were for a season they are like the poor saints who are for a time obliged to I 1 dwell in miserable mud shanties that are nip away and require much patching and care to keep them from mingling with mother earth before the time they feel miserable in these old I 1 decaying tabernacles and long for the day when they can leave them to fallad fall and take possession of a good new house I 1 it seems natural for me to desire to be clothed upon with immortality and eternal life and leave I 1 mortal flesh bull but I 1 desire to stick tatt t 4 it as long as I 1 can be a comfort to my sisters brethren wives and children independent of this consideration era tion I 1 would not turn my hand over to live twenty five minutes what else could give birth to 0 a single desire to live in this tabernacle which ls is more or less shattered by the merciless storms which havie have beat upon it to say bay nothing of the I 1 ravages made upon it by the tooth eftim of time while I 1 cling to it I 1 must of necessity suffer many pains rhu rheumatism head bead ache jaw ache and heart heartache ache sometimes in one part of my body and sometimes in another it is all right it is so ordained that w we 6 may not cling with too great a tenacity to I 1 mortal flesh flash but be willing to pass the vail and meet with joseph and hyrum and willard I 1 and bishop whitney Whit aey and thousands of others in the world of spirits are they all together as aa we are toda today to da day y 7 I 1 believe beleve all israel have to be gathered and to accomplish this the elders both in this and in the world of spirits will go forth to preach to the spirits in I 1 prison where down into hell I 1 appeal to the elders who have been from this place to preach I 1 the gospel to the world if it was vaa not like going from heaven to hell it is a world of sorrow paia de death ath and misery and you cannot make anything else of ic H I 1 brethren and si sisters 1 I 1 intend to be a tini paint ia fit i heart and life but if I 1 conducted myself as many I 1 do with the knowledge I 1 have I 1 will tell you what I 1 would do and what I 1 would advise you to do in such 9 0 case leave these valleys if you I 1 do not intend to faithful be to do the will of god and to keep his commandments if I 1 were in blat situation I 1 would woul dat at once withdraw there are some tew few who are ar leaving and aad a ad I 1 am heartily glad ofil of it if it was a member of my own house whom I 1 loved as I 1 do my lilas life I 1 do not believe my head would ache because such an one left the society 11 of the tae maikits sain main its on acco account dut of having no inclination to mingle with them if such were determined to go I 1 would say GO and I 1 I 1 would help them off if they were to get away J do not feel as I 1 used to when I 1 see dee a man going away from the society of the church of god r be filled with sympathy and plead with I 1 I 1 th them a in L hours ours and hours importuning with them until my mr head would ache and my heart sicken sick I 1 and I 1 never had the satisfaction in even converting one such character in my life if I 1 should happen to get one converted he would not stay converted so eo I 1 have concluded and I 1 think wisely to let them go and not suffer myself to have any more feelings about it than I 1 would about anhof f the common occur occurrences of life RAW what hEit are my kindred to me when the counsel of god is in the opposite they are only oily as the dust of 4 the balance er br brigham is 19 my kindred for we have haie become kindred spirits what I 1 say a ay of him will apply to many more of nay my brethren when you hit one of those men you hit the whole of them I 1 I 1 you yon have ogi often heard me speak about roy my kindred many wish to return in to the old countries count to bring on out t their kindred their sons eone tod and their daughters their fathers fathera and ti their beir mother why ti not go back for mine because they would abuse me as they always hava habil when I 1 wu was poor and am aw and so 00 nasf tbt ead that I 1 I 1 I 1 A you might well baa tay ahad I 1 had the b luea blues for fop my face I 1 i and body looked looka blue I 1 wout went to my iny friends who C X C j are all independently rich riah and said I 1 lam an poor pool lb and penniless and willod and I 1 tm sent forth as I 1 a servant of god to the nations of will you jsu me some clona ceol aang g or a little i money and rie no one soul of tha would hull help me I 1 to a sins sini I 1 gla dime ime do 0 yo you suppose I 1 rhall ruy rum after them wo will 41 tile they be saved sl ived yet yes they will but they will be save aa lave told you yon many of this people will they will first go to hell and remain there f butil the corruption with which they aie are impregnated to is burnt out and the day will yet come i I 1 when they win ih cuine to me and acknowledge roe me as their aLv alator tor and I 1 will redeem them and bring them thein forth from bou to where hera I 1 live and make them my soria lits and thoy they w will ill bequete be quite willing ta to enter into my str vice before we we heard ato r we have said a I 1 thousand tines times if we could but bat five to sea a man of god like paul or peter james john timothy or jesus jeans chiist and hear their instructions we vv would be willing filling to suffer any kind or amount of cf human su and not comp complain lolu my friends who have rejected me and ray ny tOB will yet feel 0 so o towards ipe I 1 I 1 I 1 who have you now in yow your midst have you abraham aud and isaac nd tile the apostles peter james and john yes you alivo them right in I 1 I 1 homr midst they are aie talking to you ou all 11 ll the tune time I 1 eo bo you believe it nov more or less ot of you say atty you do but do you know it br rhoads was saying what he be believed desaye he saya he be dieves believes what I 1 br brigham bigham says flays is dilword die word of god I 1 baay laay say I 1 pray that you may have a knowledge that it I 1 is the die word of god and be able to declare it in ohp wild in your families and in all 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