Show REMARKS by president Br Ighani young tabernacle october 25 1857 v iel rEX PORTED BY ily a D watta 1 a v I 1 I 1 we have heh hea heard rd a con considerable lderrie preaching lis ils this mo rooming ining an and d to me w what flat fiat we have lle lie heard ard is is full of pith and ni marrow arrow I 1 this people are to the world an object of derision and hatred haired to god of care and pity there are but bot fe few of us ns when we compare ourselves with wilh the atie rest of the inhabitants of the earth we now have llave a day duy of trial it has been observed that the tiie saints feel well they never felt better some present may not know that my oldest and my ME youngest vo brothers have been preaching today to day then are but three boys between those two and we are all here on liand hand As his been observed by br eldest brother ther this is the fiest first tinie time that we have ever had the ilia privilege lege lega of doing 11 anything only submitting to our enemies ener nies now for the te first time since tin this s church was organized we are in a position for defending those rights tights common to 10 all ameli amell can ean citizens and our oar true and lawful awful course to abide by the constitution of the united states in tile the defence of those these rights will probably give the wicked a pretext for complaint con cor plaint so that in measuring D out oppression to us our enemies will have anew set el of pretexts instead of feasting on infernal lies so much as they have hitherto done colonel alexander accuses us of what he terms a very uncivilized method of warfare if we are lo 10 do as ns they do jo we shall have to pet get drunk to swear to quarrel to lie and belle belie believe belleve e in lies and indulge in many other ilke lika traits of civil izat on in order to be prepared to act as hey they do I 1 do not know anything about hose lose men that are now in the mo mountains ains only ill in the capacity of a mob I 1 have no business to know them as anything else neither shiu shin sh in 11 I 1 until I 1 have been moti modified fied that the government of the united states wishes to send eena broo troops pa here and build stations I 1 suppose that the boys have annoyed them hem a good deal but at the same samme time I 1 would much rather then ther clothe them and feed them if they would agree to go bick in the spring and leave us in peace as they found us we are sire obliged to maintain our rights biats for every horse thief count counterfeiter erfe lter iter and abominable character at are united with the hireling priests and lying editors and nd wicked leaders of gilr our government to fah fau falsely e ly accuse the with a view to our destruction can they now truly accuse them of anything yes of burning up a little grass as br by attwood told them when hey they aked asked him why ii we burnt the grass that we may have a better crop next year ear which you are aware is is customary in prairie regions we have llave done thal that therefore our enemies can now concentrate their pa power IV er to shoot at the target they hav have e compelled us to raise in self debence de tence lence e where es heretofore they have shot without an object tg to fire at there is one thin thing in particular with regard to this people they prove their faith by their work and there is no other way for us to prove it while br by john was speaking of the labor of this people to preach and send tile the gospel to the nations of the earth I 1 thought that take us as a people in this day in the situation we have been in and then look over the history of the church of the living god oil on the earth eaith from the lays days of adam unil now and ard I 1 will insure that vou jou vou you cannot find the equal to the excessive labor of the elders of israel in our day in spreading the truth through throw h tile the world to save mankind I 1 have no idea that it was done in the days of enoch for tile the human family had bad then spread over the earth eaith but little and the E elders iders did not have to travel scores of thousands of miles without purse or scrip among the wicked so alo aio in the assof avs of noah they had but a short distance to travel in the days of the llie israelites of the prophets of jesus ghrist christ and the apostles what was their labor in the extend extent of its field compared with that hat of this people very small you may trace the course courso of ot their travel and you will find that it was farless than that of the elders of israel in our da dav we lave bave Ia boreI borel diligently and suffered everything but death to preach the gospel to our fellow beings and thousands olour of our fathers mothers brothers sisters children and connections have galie genie into their graves through their sufferings grem frem bin belag robbed of everything we had and scat seat to fidd find shelter where wo we best could are we we going to suffer it any more no god being our helper we are perfectly free on condition that we do right and aud upon that thit condition we never will be in bondage again you will recollect that this is tile the first time lime that this church cau can say sav we are free 2 do we wish to be free fre from efroin the tile united states constitution no there is not a word in it but what we can subscribe to with all our hearts do we wish to be free from the laws of the united states no they are as good its 1 aws as we can ask for neither do we wish for any adv better laws than are the most of those enacted in missouri add and illinois what then was the difficulty with this people magistrates magistrate constables mil mii military gitary effi officers cers etc walked those laws under their feet and trampled upon hem them as a thim thing of nought ought ti in order to get at this people and drive them from their hard hurd earned homes I 1 have sald sa said ul and say it again if those laws had been executed they would have llave h hung U n gov boggs and gov Ford with many 0 others t h ers ets between the heavens ile lip avens and the earth or shot them as traitors to lle ile lie the government it is not the laws and the constitution of our country that we wish to be free from but it is from the power of those who profess to be law makers and law executers but who trample every wholesome law under their feet we are now os as free from them as is the mountain air we breathe and we could the few ew enem ensures es now in our borders out of existence it a very short time if I 1 would give the word to do so but they will judge themselves out of their own mouths months and receive their j just reward at the hands of him whom they have listed to obey I 1 believe the lord has wisdom enough to make them destroy themselves though if it were left lo 10 me solely under the guidance of the spirit pertaining min i ng to man probably I 1 should have had them in tit eternity before now but the loid dictates governs and controls I 1 do not neither do I 1 wish to 0 it is said thit that if we do brightwe rig t htwe shall overcome I 1 will tell you one mark yo you U have got to come to in order to do to right if you can bring your yourselves selve seive in your affections your feeling feeling 3 your passions your desires and all that hat you h have ave in your organization iza tion to submit to the hand of the lord to his provide provi dences dees nees and acknowledge lis his its hand in all things and always be willing that he lie should dictate though it should take your houses your property your wives and children your parents your lives or anything else you have upon tile the earth then lilen you will be exactly right and until you come to that point you cannot be entirely right that is what we havo have to come to we have to learn to submit ourselves to the lord w with ith all alt our hearts with all our affections wishes desires passions and let him reign and rule over us and within us the goj gol of every motion then lie tie will lead us to victory and glory otherwise he wil will ria rik not br john referred to some persons receiving revelations ve I 1 sayto bayto such persons go ahead and get all the revelations you can if f br joseph visits you every night go ahead and tell him illin to bring brie g br hyrum father smith don carlos smith th st paul peter james arid and john and jesus christ if you call can induce him lo 10 do so but 1 I could almost lay lav my hand on that bible and swear that the man or woman who gets mch revelations ve has been guilty of adultery or of theft or has been rebellious and apostatized a in feelings but has lias comeback come back again arid and now professes to hae such rev revelations lations hell is full of f such revelations and I 1 could coutil almost testify that a man or woman who receives them has been guilty of some outrageous crime J 1 have had men come to me and tell the tho wonderful great dreams and visions which they have when those very persons have apostatized beret heretofore orore have llave denied their god and their religion and I 1 knew it many come to me and tell ma ms what wonderful vision ois s they have that their minds are open to eternal kernal things thing gs that they tiley can see visions of eternity open before them ani and understand all about this tilis kingdom many of whom have llave at some time lime been guilty manya of betraying their brethren or committing fittim some atrocious crime I 1 never no notice tice them much I 1 sit and hear them talk about their wonderful knowledge but it passes in and out at my ears like the of tile the wind it is for me to see to this kirim kingdom lom that it is 13 built up and to preserve deserve the saints from the of the enemy the e vlious of tile the class I 1 have mentioned are nothing to me they may exhibit their great knowledge before me but when they have done it is all gone from m some somo are very anxious that I 1 should have vi visions I 1 have all that the lord gives to me arid and all ail that he keeps back he lie may for that isho isso is no concern of mine we are on tile the old ship zion and if god is not at the helm the old ship will wreck and arid go to the tiie devil As for my taking charge of the kingdom of god on the he earth exclusively and arid independent of direction from heaven I 1 shall riot not do any such thing if the lord lad does doest not direct the tho old ship and act as captain and pilot it will go to destruction and I 1 care not how hov quick ile lie is at the helm heim and will stay thele if you and I 1 will bring to the tiie point I 1 have just spoken of ile he will continue to guide the welfare of zion and all its rights all is right sing hallelujah for the lord is here ile he dictates guides and directs if tile the people will have im elicit confidence in their god never forsake their covenants nor their god he will guide us right arid and we are free as the air of these mountains the yoke of the wicked is off and I 1 am determined it shall stay off if any auy man or woman in utah wants to leave this community come to me and I 1 will treat you kindly a I 1 always have and will alst assist you to leave but after you have left our settlements you yon must not then depend me any longer nor upon the god I 1 serve you must me meet et the doom you have labored for if any wish to go away come coree to me and I 1 will assist you to goin goin peace and safety safely to the army or anywhere else but if you iou fou come cone con e again with bitter feelings to this ter atory we shall meet you as we would a mo mob atter after this sealii gea sea oil orl when this ignorant army has ling passed lasted off I 1 shtil aull never agida ag iii ili say to a man stay your our rifle ball when whelk our enemies benemie assail us but shall say htay them where you find them but the army that are biow now upon our borders are in I 1 ignorance and know not what they are doing nor the spirit that prompts them hem or they would ere now have been visited swift destruction on oil account of their i ignorance and their being sent by rotten demagogues and corrupt speculators I 1 feel like letting them alone unless they turn to come here which if they do sleep will depart from their eyes and slumber from their eyelid lids until they sleep tile the sleep of death or beg quartets teis at our hands god being our helper I 1 do not altogether know why I 1 should not feel it right to lay slay them where they are but I 1 do not consequently I 1 withhold and if it that course should be light I 1 believe it will bo be manifested to io me and if it is is not so manifested to me and anybody else can call know of a surety and will take the responsibility go ahead I 1 have joy and comfort in n seeing this people trying trin arin to live lue up to 0 o the he spirit s lat bat of their religion to th the r spirit rt of the gospe gospel f and nd I 1 should be glad to see tile the spirit of reformation continue among them I 1 would be pleased to have hae it within myself and do better than I 1 now do or do more or do comet something hing I 1 do not do but unless the he lord will reveal to me something more than lie has his I 1 cannot do any better than I 1 am doln doin doing for I 1 do not know how I 1 have done as well as I 1 aoud silica I 1 have been in in this kingdom I 1 can hardly refer to the time when I 1 have not done the best I 1 knew liow how and I 1 call cail can hardy hardly refer to the he time when I 1 put my liand hand to do a thing unless I 1 knew it to be right I 1 am not a visionary character nor subject to excitement in in my feelings my life you yon know is is an even continuation and I 1 hope it will be unlit I 1 lay down this taber tabernacle Lacle lacie if we take this course courna and trust in the lord lie may send armies here or not call upon us to fight or let us raise rai ral e grain build houses etc or send us to the nations it mattara not riot if we bring our feelings to this thia we will neer never be brought into bondi geto aeto to the wicked again but we will be free do you ou not know brethren that the dav day will come cone of or which the tile ard lord baya bays for brass I 1 will bring gold and for iron I 1 will brine bring silver and for wood brase brass and for stones iron iron rind ind yet atif if those thoe things were now delivered into our hands there would be selfishness selfish I 1 have llave seen that spirit manifested and I 1 am afraid of it I 1 am moie abrail of covetousness covetous nesi in in our elders eiders than I 1 am of lle ile the lie hordes of hell have we men out now of or that class I 1 believe so I 1 am afraid of such spirits for they are moie mole powerful and injurious to this people than all ail hell outside of our borders all our enemies in in the united states slates or in the world and all hell with them thorn mars hailed balled against us could not do us tile ilie injury hat that covetousness in in tile the hearts of ibis this people could do us u for it is idolatry As berjohn IT john observed one devil can keep all babylon in con conf fulon continually because they are already so wicked but it takes armies armies of de devils devits to take care of the saints lest they overcome the king kingdoms dorns of 0 darkness dar knes the devils forces are particularly against us if I 1 can contend against the powers of darkness and get this people to control themselves so as to have liate no principle or feeling fe elius about them only to do the tile will ot of our father in heaven I 1 do not fear all hell were all the united skates slates arrayed against t us in in these mountains I 1 would mather rather llave have ten men who are saint saints and will do more with them to overcome n all ail ai our outside enemies ene mip mlp than this w whole hole hoie people with their affect oris ons otis not sanctified to nie hie lord do you understand that ye e saints or is it to you like some visions that 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