| Show FURTHER FURTH EIf eit REMARKS BY PRESIDENT 0 BRIGHAM YOUNG A portion of the congregation have heard what bi marsh jias pias has said but he spoke so low tha tyla fau E you could gould not nt all hear he wants to know whether r this people are willing to receive him into f full fuli all hil I 1 fellowship when he came to flo ren cehe applied to br cunningham who was theon thern presiding residing resl resi ding there for baptism br cunningham athirst at first refused to baptize him probably thinking that it would be better for him to wait walt till he be came to this place but he afterwards IV ds v his consent fo to br marshb marshs being baptized baptie i tl c br r marsh now wishes to be received into full fuli ull uil fellowship and to be again baptized here there ard are many here who have formerly been acquainted with him with his moral character acter and they can cari judge as well as myself those e who are not acquainted with him will be willing to coincide with the judgment of those who once knew him ashall I 1 shall shail call a vote to ascertain whether the peppie are willing that he should be baptized into th the church of jesus christ of latter day saints saini and nd be acknowledged a member in full f fellowship allows hip I 1 wish those who kho are willing to receive br marsh into full fellowship as a member in this church and kingdom to man mani iest lest it by the uplifted hand all hands ap pealed to be raised if there are any who are not willing they now have the privilege ge of manifesting it by the uplifted hand not a handras hand band was raised br marsh I 1 think that will li be satisfactory to you T B marsh crr ift it iss isi is and I 1 thank god for it I 1 presume presume that br marsh will take no do of fence if I 1 talka little about him we have manifested our feelings fee linis towards him and we know his hig situation with regard to this churchs churche being reconciled to him I 1 can say that this church and people were never dissatisfied with him for when men and women apostatize and go from us we have nothing to 10 lo to with them it if they do that which is evil they will wili buter suffer for it br marsh hab has suffered he told lold me yesterday that the christians might hang up theirl their fiddle idale in regard to there being no do catholic or purgatory you area ara arp aware vare that the children of the mother chur chiave dissented from the idea of there being such a a place as purgatory but br marsh says that tha there is such a place and that lie he has been in in it durin aurin during the past eighteen vears years years and ind upwards I 1 asked letl him whether he aid did to pray himself out he ile answered ly ses yes e W r then remarked remark ed if you prayed your I 1 suppose e Y you 0 1 l saved gaved the priests fees sy bi nhe said it d did i d not cost me a cent of money 1 y r Ho ilov weyer Avei it cost him a great deal of labor trouble troubie ad pain conversing In with br marsh I 1 find that he is about tle th e saine same thoe thom thomas as that he always was full of anecdotes and chit chi chitchat i chat he could hardly co diverse for ten minutes without telling 0 an anecdote his voice and s tyle style of conversation are familiar t to 0 r me e he has told jold you that he is an old man do you hat I 1 am anold an pid gid man I 1 could prove to this his congregation W I 1 that I 1 am young for I 1 more girls who would choose me for a can any of the young men very aged and infirm and you can see that be he is brethren and sis sisters tei tej what is the nause effit of it he left the gospel of 0 salvation what abat do you think the difference is between his age and mine one year ard aad seven months to a day an and A he is one year 1 seven severy months and fourteen days older than br heber hober C kimball keeps men ald aid and women young and arid haird baird some and when they are full of tb the e spirit of god there are none of them but what will have a glow upon their countenances and that is what makes you and me young for the spirit of god is with us and within us when br bi Tb thomas thornas thought of returning to the church the plurality Iura lura lity of wives troubled him a rood good good deail deall deal deai ab look at him do you think it need to I 1 do not noe for I 1 doubt whether he be could get one wife why it should have troubled an infirm oid old man like ilke him is not for me to bay gay he fhi read br orson orio pratts work upon that subject and discovered that the doctrine wab waa beautiful consistent and exalting and add that the kingdom could not be perfect without it neither can it be perfect without a great many manx things that the people do da not yet understand though they will come in thi chewn iown town due time of the lord As I 1 hav have h big bip it a few minutes for speaking I 1 will wil wll I 1 re relate I 1 ate a little of the current n news of th the day ay on friday evening the lith insl two of the brethren who accompanied bra samuel W richards and george snider from deer creek to US miles below laramie came in and reported that soldiers and a heavy freight train were there eri erl camped encamped opposite to totham them and on the south bouth side of the platte they could tell that they were soldiers from the appearance of their carriages wagons tents aud and mode oi of encampment we did not learn anything very definite from these two brethren lat lately ely gly arrived Ii russel ussel twaddle are freighting for gov ern ment and abid some of their trains were scattered along to the sweetwater they have 26 wagons in in each traina train avith vieth a teamster andrix and six siz yoke of oxen to a wagon some of those trains were on the sweetwater when br samuel passed down don arid and quite a number of them are in advance of the soldiers the brethren learned that captain van vliet vilet assistant quarter master was coming onto on to purchase lumber and such sach things 11 as might be needed forthe for the army last evening br johnr john R murdock a arrived rived direct from frol st louiz louls louis ha left here with the mail on the and 2nd day of july and reached independence in in 16 days making by far the shortest trip on oil record and in in 18 days and a half from here landed lauded in in st louis he tarried thare till br horace S eldred eldredia Eld eid redga 0 o and br groesbeck had transacted some soma business and then started up the river with a small train on the 91 oh b of f august br murdock left atchison KT troubles were daily expected to break out in kansas between the republican or free state and the pro slavery partie for which reason gen harney with the caia cala cavalry irv a portion of the fantry infantry jn and I 1 think one or oi vo wo companies of the artillery were detained there by orders from washington and colonel johnson ordered to ass asi assume urne the command of the army for utah some 15 or 1600 in fantry infantry started from leaven and when br murdock passed them loo miles below laramie about had deserted leaving as he was told about 1000 men on their way to this place he passed a few freight trains which were entirely deserted bv by the teamsters and russel A waddle were not able to hire inre teamsters to bring dirig those trains forward br murdock did not think that they could get here this fall unless we helped them in in their teams are pretty good but chev they are very much jaded their mule teams are in better belter condition because because they reaul regularly arly ariy feed bem hem them grain from the time that I 1 heard that the president of the united states had issued orders for soldiers to come here they have had mv my best faith hat that the lord loid would not let them gk get here I 1 have seen this people r anen hen ben palsied with agues fevers and with various other diseases hurled out of doors driven away from fleir cellars full fuli of potatoes from thir their th ir meal chasta from their cows houses barns orchards fields and finally from their happy homes and all the comforts of life I 1 have seen that a good many times and I 1 pray hat that I 1 may never see it again unless it is is absolutely necessary esay for the welfare and advancement of gods purposes on the earth I 1 want to se no more suffering I 1 will not use the word suffering for I 1 call it if joy jos oy instead of sorrow affliction and suffering if we live our religion and exercise faith it is is our firm belief that it is is our right to so exercise our united faith that our enemies never can come here unless the lord in in his providence sees liat that it will be for our good it is my falth faith and feelings f that if we live as we should live they cannot come here but I 1 am decided in my opinion that if worse comes to worst and the lord permits them to come upon us I 1 will desolate this whole territory before 1 I will again submit to the hell heil hellish 1 h corruption and lond bondage e the wicked are striving vi g to thrust upon us solely for our exercising our right of freedom of conscience I 1 L will say siy in reference to pres pros buchanan that for 0 r his outrageous wickedness in his bis this movement he be shall wear the yoke as long as he lives ha he shall be led about by his party with the yoke on his neck until they have accomplished their ends and he can do no more fo for them and his name shall ball be forgotten and od old bright bight is as br kim kirn ball bail calls him shall be free I 1 am persuaded that for their horrible wicked treatment to this people the only loyal people in in the united states the only people who know the worth of the constitution they will be sorely punished after doing what they already have done to this people after atter sending among us the filth and scum sc um of a all ail 11 creation as some of the officers were as officers of the government contrary to the tha genius of our institutions I 1 want to tell them that though they continue to send poor pusillanimous curses here to be government officers we will lot not submit subhi to it troops or no troops I 1 shall tell them this ia 13 plainness and simplicity lacity and they shall hall find that in in my simplicity I 1 will try to sustain ustain so righteous a position and I 1 believe that the point is is yielded both in n europe and america and an d I 1 believe they acknowledge that brigham bri ham is I 1 a man of bis word and I 1 baye haye come to Z the conclusion that we will not ag again kin hin have officers thrust upon us contrary to our consent the lord helping us when br mardock left loft st louis mr cumins tiie the person who had received the th i appointment point of governor of utah was going golo gowash to washington iila ilig amton and he be could not learn that there was one oita of the officers with the soldiers hence hene e I 1 do not ae ree fee but that I 1 shall hare bara to again preside over our legislative assembly this winter J I 1 do not see sec that it can be otherwise and william 41 hooper will be Secretary just just juat as he was was wag last winter they have refused to pay tha the expenses eapen is of or the last assembly and other just debts due to this territory but hut god will overrule hose those thing things for our good and the advancement of his bis kingdom if ve we live our reli rell religion ion lon our enemies will yet bm glad to come to us for safety and vai salvation and we will do ag as br kimball has said we will bave save the old veteran fathers and the time timo will come when we will bo be baptized lea iea for them while those who trample upon the rights of their fellow men will be weltering in in hell yes we will bring up those thos eold old oid revolutionary sires and save them for god loves men who are true to each other and are true to him if any want to apostatize I 1 want them to look at br marsh I 1 wish you could all see and understand what he has suffered ha he has suffered a little and I 1 could tell you a good deal of the suffering induced by the weaknesses of men when the quorum of the twelve was first chosen lyman johnsons name was called first brigham you youngs digs s second 1 heben heber C kimballs Kim balls third and so ahl bil had seen br I 1 1 marsh and others who were n nominated for for the of the twelve and I 1 looked ithem them as men of great powers of mind as men of ability men who understood der stood the things of I 1 heaven eaven I 1 looked upon them as angels and I 1 looked up to them just as my children look up to me I 1 considered br marsh a great man but as soon as I 1 become acquainted with him I 1 saw that the weakness of the flesh was visibly manifest in him I 1 saw that he be was ignorant and shattered in his understanding if ever he be had good understanding he manifests the same weakness today to day has he be the stability of a sound mind no and never had and if he had bad good sense and judgment lie he would not have spoken as he behas has he has just said 1 I I will be faithful and I 1 will be true to you 5 he has not wisdom enough to see that he has betrayed us once and dont know but what he will again he Hellas helias has told me that lie would be faithful alii and that he would adothis sand s and the other but be dont know what he lie willbo next week or next year I 1 do not know what I 1 shall do next year I 1 aw al ways speak for or the present but a man that will be once fooled by the devil a man that has not riot sense to discern between steel grey mixed and andiron iron grey mixed when one is dyed with logwood and the other with indigo may be deceived again gahl you never beard heard mesay me say bay that I 1 was going to be true to my god for I 1 know too much ot of human weakness but I 1 pray god to preserve me from falling away to preserve me in th the truth I 1 depend not riot upon myself for I 1 know too much of human weakness and aud of myself to indulge in such remarks I 1 derive strength from a superior source I 1 have been drinking from that source for many years and as I 1 told lold you last athi I 1 bave have been trying to be a disciple of jesus christ and lind if we are faithful we will all be counted worthy to be his disciples ll 11 god bless vou amen CAPTAIN STEWART VAN VLIET ASSISTANT QUARTERMA quartermaster 17 S A arrived in this city ibn the afternoon of the ath dinst he left his hib escort C in camp on hams fork the animals being somewhat jaded and rode from there with ars I 1 N V jone jones s and bryant String L ham bam who were returning from deer creek 1 immediately upon his bis arrival the captain capitain politely requested elder jones to wait upon his excellency governor young acquaint him with his arrival and abid solicit an interview which by mutual agreed agreement ent was appointed in the social hall at 9 a m on the following morning D during arin g the evening of the ath governor I 1 young accompanied by hon H C ki kimball aballi gen D H wells hon J al barnhi sij BI gen J ferguson architect T 0 angel and the editor of the deseret news called upon captain van vilet vliet at the residence of hon W H R hooper secretary for utah and passed some time in a mutually frank and friendly interchange of queries and ideas at 9 a m of the gih ao governor vernor young hon H C kimball gend ge ald H wells hon J al bernhisel those of the quorum of the twelve now in this thia city lion llon william 11 hooper and a large number of our p prominent romin ent citizens met captain van vliet in the social hall where he was very favorably introduced to the audience by the governor and gave a general outline out luie iuie of the object in view with gen harney in sending him here oh on express and at the conclusion of his remarks presented a letter to governor young from gen harney addressed president brigham young of the society of the cormons mormons Mor mods mons at the conclusion of the interview governor young invited captain van vliet vilett and several 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