Show DISCOURSE by ily E eider elder ider lder lorenzo lorenao Lor nor enzo enro snow tabernacle sunday iii orning hlo aio ruing 9 january 18 15 ISM BY J 7 V LONG by the request cf the president of tb th 3 sake slake elder spencer I 1 will occupy a time in speaking caking rp such things as may corre coine to ta my mind or as the lord shall shail see proper to dictate I 1 have observed brethren that both speakers and hearers are frequently troubled with certain weaknesses weakness ies les and I 1 want to occupy a moo roo i lt t 01 01 two teo in pointing painting out oat some of those wea kief klef kipf 9 a this is is a time of ofTe reformation formation I 1 prelim preb pros im w wien ien len elders rise to speak those who lattio w P no i ot been in in the habit harbit of speaking ing before as sennie that it is comet sometimes ines at vry hard and difficult foi them but they vy will 11 st stand I 1 betle betie a con congregation greka grega t if n because it is absolutely their divy du v to do so they do it because it is is upon them they do it be canse they cannot well weil escape that situation which peradventure venture they aney would be well pleased to do if f they could do 0 o and feel ap probated in their own con conscience clence this is a weakness that individuals in thle thie position feel mor than thin they do in in any other I 1 ilo do not think that thia will wiil apply to nie hie elders 0 of israel very extensively 1 another weakness consists in in their not care I 1 how they express themselves in the t e comin unica I 1 tion of their ideas and instructions inductions I 1 would not wish to stand before you this morning for the be purpose of being wn sr i or of gett getting iii ili rid nd of anu anle pleasant f feeding feeing eliria glor nor non til tit tnt it my oraton v maybe spoken of ter ten but I 1 wili to stand before you yoi for the pir purpose p pose apoe of that which shall shail laii be for your good and ind benefit I 1 I 1 understand und erst aind rind that we are brethren iren together that we art ar of the same seine father ii i 11 i the celest celestri ti worlds and that if we knew each cich oher other as w w if each onetta one WT as endowed ly by the power f god ouren our sympathies mpa thies woud be excited exited more thin they are at t the present tine t me and thre theire would hp he a desire on the part of every pery inh indi dual to stuk in in their evv own i minds how bow they do their brethren good bow they rn ht alleviate their sorrow and build thein up in truth how i the darkness from their bum num lainck BUK if we miler wiler n i ler stand each other and the real relationship which we hold to each other we wi should feel Jiff di freret ere erp t from fi mahat what we do but this knowledge knowledg re can ran be obtained only a ayi asi we obtain t ile the spirit of life and a we are desirous of building bu illing each oiher other up ic ri again I 1 have nat nal anotn lived ed on 01 the alt ait dit of th the people what I 1 have llave attributed to wo weakness w akness knes they come together some of them nio e forthe for the purpose of beine being pleased with the un oratory of tah ahr ir speaker for the he purpose of admi lili iiii the style in which he may addre herm hero or they come together mo e for the T ru ii pose of shiz felz ro FF iz 1 t the he speaker or lat ng in reg ard to his chai chat acter or tilt the true relation ship that he ustain to the lord in the han than ban foi fin the pw poe roe beof of receiving receiving rec eivin elvin s that will vill do them go J i and build them thel rp in I 1 think that aspea ef q ought might to try an ani im improve proe themire where wherein lii iii tiley see their heir weaknesses weak nesse the liepa ought t to aly to eel act v their thein weaknesses dessesso nes sesso gesso that wh i I 1 1 I 1 elders dp ae a d p e called upon to speak they may have b ve it in the i hearts to do tile tiie people good one ode of the th e grel reit relt rei rel t prayers that thit a man can cm offer 90 0 o f adi a r a as 3 I 1 11 ler ier iland graies ras and the ther r consul tir ey is 13 ci t when an all E tier of isil stands elands 1 if fore the i p r he lie ma mm 0 y ril sit i r I 1 eil eli ell fell some thought i I 1 0 io o lle ile lie the peo pedal l r and bi bit la lit them up ni lit the pr r les ies of tri ri th t i d salv atio 1 prayers of c f this kc k I 1 are ire as ap ar el t able ible in the tile e ir or of the ard as a prayers tint an elder p israel c ri possie forch ilan lian i in elder elden eliverta ta I 1 before tf tiie tile e deop I 1 ie e should i 0 cc 0 o re reil il zing thit tint be stair stain before i il lil ill in n for the p impose of coin 2 knot d 0 o that I 1 Y v may inay irenec rece ii truth it their fr si a ti i il be bull bail up i in in righted nem nen by irce ivin jimmier light p or bresing esing in their C i ra principles nn ciple cf of I 1 loll hoi nes liess this INS cannot I 1 ia ri 11 1 eureil excell t by labor of mind bv an enel v of oc faith and ani bv peking seeking 11 vii vil li ii 11 i all oba heart tl 11 at of the vic lor lorl 1 our go U 11 it is i st t goon soon 0 on 1 1 phit pirt lit of te vie hearers attenni inid pud to th tint it is rp re edof checof hem f i I 1 ne me to til IP lly liy those wo who address the neof filin fi in tins this alint sni aid and anle une ane labor n i heir helf moli roii 1 1 with all tiu tin i ats ni lai d 1 I with 1 11 ein tir h in their heir prayer prayers bhare bhore I 1 ile lip P lord I 1 irv icv wil illi wll not toot reccie receive that good and andreo benl beri git fit to thel I 1 ei es which timpy ought to rei receive rew cebre if for in tuce voul you are dunding anding nd ing lug 7 school yoe yot bae hae your hiir 1 I ong ons to learn ifrid loit in in pi ti to bouret ouri ourt g and fait tail and intel int e in regard I 1 11 e qiu ine inz ak w v le ledee ledge of those voia i ou will 0 prepared p to et elj joy ay iy their belle beile benefit out ht for tor or whit i ai P v are delind dekind dei del de i and j ji i in in t on toy it n electing 0 lo 10 o exercise exe eye cise yur yun murd y ta your 5 our if fl elzenie lence bence loir voir 0 ir mind will he be barren batren bar reni i d I 1 il I 1 in lelath ill iii i ti to that know you ull have vat att ati i i pd led you p pc bably bibly a vila larion lari gion fion in book boole cf of doctrie ll 11 i Cove covenant narit v i ims ins inz to oli olif cordt rv the pr 1 I ap P of tran trant lat lal liing inz certain r ord a i filat that a lei rei i i rel rei r biving thin tins lie he got of the i I 1 that all he e had t d 1 vi j a ji i to still stai I 1 idle idie i lie lle and not 1 but b h f ul n i that his bis i aill ws was barren toe X L i nl d gave 1 i i i lation to i 1 f nn him of f the v and T i i him that thai hi bv 1 lip h dd 1 d not ebere e his bis hi mi fie tile power nowen i elect lect ilat that were ei i en him I 1 mind rind r lind ind had if tr i it pic ri cisel isely ni in regard tc to if W wt don do 0 exercise eer cise 0 o e faculties I 1 ie f 1 steb nt of tha IM L 1 but littig information will here ved fam i even though ideas may becan mun nun icat r f taa hai dailue tai a v lue liue and worth not vit man kan ling fing id I 1 V I 1 r romann aled iii in a a ken 1 r alp mlp 1 l i i n delrea as s a bor boy ba W i i r w 1 muni that they tv rr i their thein minds being benefited by the broe broc en T v it ail toll tell v vin iu n there is is a f fi f I 1 1 i i f h end and erd to tn th i pr i f pie pip ai an I 1 1 I know T re ri st s bp be a ihor inor lnor f trl tri ir 1 a ex those agents at god bag h s g eju ebu e til apy must be put into exercise then being enlightened by the gift and power of the holy ghost we may get pet those ideas and that intelli intelligence ence anti and those blessings that are necessary to pre prepare are us for the future for sceneries that are to come the same principle will ap apply I 1 in all our actions ct ions lons in relation to the things of ap god T we have to ex ei t ourselves brethren this remaining idle without putting ourselves into action is of no we use if i I 1 we i em nn gerfe perfectly fly neutral bothin nothing is accomplished cc om shed every principle that is revealed rev paled froni from he the heavens is for our berre berte benefit git fit for our if leefor for fon our sal valon salon ad and for our 1 ipland getsel hat that is giam n to tous tons us when oen it comes from the pi pioppo oller an hority honts is given for a cei cel tain purpose lind cind that tham purpose is our happiness so far as the present time is concerned it is for tho the th purpose of adding unto us in in tha present state and also for the purpose e of 1 1 iad jed I 1 mito unto us in a sta tta hereafter here bere sifter upon ta 3 p i pl id is cinel cin el esa era established bishel upon th the fhe principle of do ilo ii 11 our fellow nien pono for the purpose of d in iny them good here and hereafter ter the design of the lord in regard to ourselves orr selves in i 1 ezard ard to his people generally is to brin brina them I 1 to 10 that state and fulner of knowledge and nd to I 1 hat that perfect i vi ilch lich their spirit al or maj cioll i are it f or arriving at tere 1 1 are certain I 1 aws f flom all eternity for fur the purpose of it carting this object the quest in on i a kd km why are arr we under obligations 1 ligat gat ions lons to follow counsel because that counsel possesses those qualities necessary to make us better here and to exalt us to honor lionor and glory hereafter if it were not so there would be no obligation on our part to follow counsel ami A minor lor jor is under obligation to follow his bis for that counsel is designed to make him happy while in the state of boyhood and to qualify bilm blim im to act in an af after ter state in a state of or manhood that counsel is designed to benefit berle berie git fit that father who gave ir it as well a as the son to whom it is given it 11 is the fathers fa theis privilege to coun cohn counsel sell seli as shall be for the benefit of that father and a shall contribute to the greatest of that boy while in his boyhood so that it shall benefit him to the greatest extent when he shall arrive at the state of manhood in the same sanne light prest brigham bl illiam young is a counselor to this whole people and tile tiie counsel he lie gives is for the purpose pir pose of benefiting them in this ibis state aiso also for preparing them to receive the greatest happl happi happiness nes neg it is possible pos nog eibie tible for huma human b baingi e P to ti rie receive in the world to come it acca 1 13 hg e the hetio twofold two foli fold object of benefiting himsl if and those to whom towboat it is given noman no man can eive give counsel to any one bt bill what it has a benefit himself liim self gelf as well weil as others we are so constituted anti and il that we cannot counsel that which will contri liue to the benefit and exaltation of 1 others without at the same time contributing to I 1 our 0 own V n good I 1 A f father a t her in communicating counsel to his son I 1 should in the flip first place prepare to communicate muni cate e proper coilin counsels sells which will suit sult the tiie conditi condition of his soa it is H his privilege to extend happiness to himself it is privilege his to increase his own happiness and in increasing his i own happiness lie he should extend it throughout his hia family dom nion hion and when he lie is increasing his own happiness hi liis own glory his own lie lip at the came same time is increasing that of his r hildren children idad that counsel which he reveals i is all the time that which is bes for his family if good colln colin el l was not established for the bene fit of the he individual that it also aiso pt thoe those who rece receive ve it it would be of no st service ervice the tile people are tinder obliga ion to obey the I 1 counsel that ia h given they are necessarily re required to apply ane ne counsel of br hr Bri brigham aham because that counsel possesses those objects object no man can be bemore mor happy than by obeying 9 br hr brighams Brig hams haros cc linsel tinsel you yo may go from east to west from I 1 north to sout soul south aid aird ard tread this footstool of thu ihu lord nord all ell ov r and you cannot find a man that can make h m elf eif happy ie this ihu ehu cb ch only by apis apil applying ing ohp counsel oun el bf tot br brigham in his life it is 11 a matter of ini pr sivility lity a man mad to receive a f bulnes ful alne nes neg st who is not susceptible of receiving and cirr out br hr B driz Briz Ie hams counsel I 1 an india dual hat ilat applied the counsel church is bound to incila increase inci ease e in nl ai that is good for theril theris is a fountain of counsel which the lord has established ile he I 1 hg his made it has lias deposited that counsel that wisdom anil anel tio alo those e riches and it will all hat that pertains unto good unto anto salvation sal vanon vaHon all ah that thata pertains unto peace and unto happiness all chingo that pertain to glory and to the tha exaltation of the saints in titis evoi oi id and the he world to come if that cl comil com virn fl 1 if bat that hat int ellig that is deposited in HIP flip Re ilant ilent of this his church was calculated ohl tot ohi it is misery and anti misfortune and unhappiness ti ir i LP ii TP trople ople and to undo or binder hinder that which I 1 v ci i atme i su receiving i then it aou 1 ii l i ot h imo inn hit tint of cheh wp we have been speaking but bid it is our privilege to follow fallow it and if we carry out the principles that ai al e established in oar oer nature and aid that are aping I 1 lit us we hall hali keep kepp ris rii ing anti and heln hein exalted exil ted ff WP we follow thit tint colus coins fl I wp we ghali shall addan e ill lil ll 11 OP O P pi piricle i ih h it pert port partin im to cappai 3 in I 1 aliis i s w d 1 nl nt tile tiie lie lle worm worn tor tod if it is the business of the he father to be qualified to teach and instruct hig his is children and to la lay lav V principles before hem them so that by confor r anz to tho thoe e instructions chev c clil cin lil hp be hp fhe i rn st t lap y th thit tint it their nati natures ire lre ai ale aie e e of lri iri it a tite f fite tile ite nf if cli avd cil ii I 1 llo lio loo w ill at tile IP ni 1 lai ip i i ia p iii ril p i u inca t r i i i 11 1 1 t h i i ness s and e enjoyment in a sale aale of manhood 11 ioe loe tl aehl children dr a ane are re tinder under obligation lo 10 follow the fathers counsel precisely precis ely ply 0 o iong long ion lon a as vip coi col rozel i ach the tile i f gi gre ei is cacil ital for til tit i xoe ame i iii lii 1 1 p 1 l TP e ii iter iten r i iii lo 10 f 1 rii ril fc til 1 oi i 1 I i r itt lit il 1 1 1 1 i r T i 1 k froni from the father fattier they become like a is separated epa rated from a tre ire thoy they no longer flor fior flourish ilor nor or trul tioff arli arll horii fult cult f int tile TUP 1 b af ch cli th thit tint it i is cut 0 aff rom nom 0 f tree ci s q to live tive h ve he the 1 fi fp gi ai i n powei r pa ls to r it fortl foit foi t f it i f let a 0 s ni 0 r hi to u arf lff iff f om ora wis was cach chui ati aud benol d e no 1 ner mer m berrel er CL iny kny ins 4 wise director and counselor for his children but only so an long iong as he has hag the he privilege vile e of receiving receiving and having counsel in which is is deposited that wisdom and know knowledge lede and power that can give life to those that are around him there is al necessity of our being moe more industrious many of us in getting into the spirit of this reformation more than thai what has already been rec ree eved there is a dancer danger of our being satisfied wilh a superficial advancement with merely advancing on the surface we tac talc taic of 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