Show DISCO DISCOURSE SE by president Jed jedediah edlah M 31 grant tabernacle 3 rov nov 9 1856 reported REPORTED BY GEO 1 D WATT 1 I 1 believe belleve I 1 with br ki mba dball all ail that many of this people partake of the sacrament unworthily some avill ste their neighbors or his crowbar or wood from his pile or cabbages b ag oes and potatoes from his garden or hay from his stack or ro eo into his yard and milk his cows and commit mim wim numerous erous brous other sins and the next day come heie here and partake of the sacrament when I 1 see persons very religious I 1 ly I 1 always look for them thein to commence stealing I 1 t the he r first lri opportunity they have and on the next day ex expect e t to hear bear them speak in ton tongues ties in some c ceass ass meeting or ward nvard meeting and andone give dive the interpretation of or tongues or relate some remarkable dream or vision I 1 noticed another thing in in this Tabler nacle when it was first completed br brigham wanted a certain number of seats reser reserved v ed for his family now w would id you yon believe t that hat some of tb the e most pious ious lous ord old oid cladies ladies and si sisters in in the church would libe lybe be at the four doors of this byj in the m morning I 1 that they might crowd onto sea seats ts res reserved e arved for the presidents family and crowd them out these are professedly fes sedly the most pious among us bless you they are professedly just as fali fall fullet et of religion as they can be I 1 wish to see people come corm corn to meeting right and in order to do so they must be right at home they must mast be right all the while I 1 seriously serious seriously lt question when some people are baptized tv whether ether they do not come out of the water the same poor miserable devils as they went in I 1 there must be the foundation in the people the right standard in the breast and that must be inherent in the people more or less or else our professions arelin vain 1 I therefore want avant every person to leave the bread in in the salvers calvers and the water in the cups and not partake partaker of the sacrament unless they are right I 1 want every thief and every unrighteous person to let the bread alone if I 1 could have one prayer effectually answered forthwith it would puta put pub a stop to a great great reat teat many evils in israel to say the least of it but 1 as the work of reformation increases among I 1 the people our president says and it is so that thit we may look for the workings Avor kings of an opposite power the ile solution he gavi gave last night in the high priests quorum is the best explanation that I 1 have heard concerning the fogs that we have felt for some time past the principle was this that as we ave advance in the light ight and in the truth the arch adversary and his associates will make a corres corree corresponding effort to darken our minds and becloud our atmosphere and thereby throw us into tha the fog 1 I 1 am aware that we have only afew among us but what feel determined to reform the great majority J wish to live and I 1 am glad of it I 1 believe that the majority pf af this congregation I 1 that are here today to day actually intend to do right now do not let the devil cheat you and if the devil marshals his forces against you and anti be clouds your minds tell him that you are serving the god of israel if you are in in the dark and cannot get light kep kepp ke lep p a firm hold on the foundation of truth and anti be determined not to be jostled off aff it I 1 br kimball frequently alludes to discords in f milies families a I 1 was listening as I 1 came along the street to a 13 bishop 3 h who h spoke oke of discord in a mw 01 certain famil family y i in n his s wa ward the person he alluded aly to has but one wife antl anil is said to be a fine man mail and his hia wife is 13 said to be a fine woman 1 and of good parentage they have some soine give five pron promising children but that asman woman wants to forsake her husband and ando go to her father you may sum up the difficulties in families throughout the country and you will find ten to one more jars in families where there is 13 but I 1 one wife than in fai far eires tihes here there are a number I 1 believe there has been a disposito di disposition an on the part of some men and women to break the strong tie that ought to bind families together I 1 but I 1 do not believe they will accomplish much I 1 look for our relations to be permanent and the tu institutions of the church to be eternal 1 because they are perfectly right I 1 now refe refer fofe more particularly to our family organizations but there is more or less discord in families t would like it to cease alto aito altogether ethar and I 1 would actually like the day to come in israel when the people will not only love the doctrines and revelations of bf the lord jesus christ but that they live in the day when the prophet joseph has brought them forth to the man I 1 have just now been alluding to say to that wife go to your darle darie darling ng people e 0 pie then if she wished me antee the 1 almighty l mt had blest me with the means I 1 would i bless her and bestow upon her everything I 1 could I 1 would give her a alt my cattle horses and other property and sav god bless you yon go and prosper if you can if necessary I 1 would I 1 rise at midnight mid night and write her out the neatest bill she ever saw baw and I 1 would figure it all oera with flowers and doves and bedeck it with red ribbons I 1 make these remarks not that I 1 have had any difficulty with my own family but because I 1 there is a princie I 1 vish wish to speak upon I 1 believe that men should lead their families and not drive them some people do not uni i deratt der arid the difference between leadin leading and driving a flock of sheep br willes willea I 1 has las seen I 1 I 1 the shepherds and thir th ir flocks in the eastern E astern countries and can tell you the difference in the manaFe management ment of flocks in those countries and america in america the tha sheep are driven in in the fhe he erist east the pheris lead their flocks the american and english spirit and also the spirit of some other nations places the sheep in front and the shepherd must follow if there is any difficult place a stream to ford or a slippery log to walk on the ameri I 1 cans spirit is to try his wife vite first on the to log to drive his wife and children across first be he I 1 most mast drive I 1 do not like that though some men are almost compelled to do so because the women are determined to lead I 1 have traveled with br lieber and I 1 never saw a milder man in my life when everything i is ri night right ht and people keep out ont of his hia track bul but i when n they y get in lit his path he is obliged to tread on their heels for they the cannot wal wai walk k so fast as he can lie ile i is s not hot to ame mme blame for that they are to blame in the earl eari early y ages of the forrd there was a youth imprisoned by the ruler odthe of the people his parents went to the ruler and plead with him to release their son but they could not prevail at first their then wept and tore their reverend locks from their heads to move the ruler to pity and when they had done this he released their sor SOD from orison the historian remarks that it was not so much the weakness tristim existing in the youths parents that caused them to tear their hair as it its ws the obstinacy in the ruler they vere were obliged to take that course to such hearts me means arti arts to effect their i purpose am I 1 to blame for scolding the people not at all Is br heher heber not at all ii ha he to blame for chastising an unruly wife no if she gets in his path and he steps on oil her heels is ha lip to blame no and if she is hurt thereby it is the result of her own acts what will be the result of the chastisements given iven to this people I 1 answer if they heed them them they will avill br bring in them into the true path i it is the situation of the people that prompts I 1 the teachings they now receive from gods goda servants if it all the people did r night right 1 lit they would not be chastised at all I 1 if fg a mans family conduct themselves right do you suppose that a consistent reasonable man will find fault with them no if it all the people in a ward do right will vill the bishop chastise them no but if they do not do right thel the bishop is placed under the necessity of coming i forth thed ched in thie the armor and power of the almighty to nut put them right arid and of calling calling upon the teachers to assist him in this work and when the people repent and arid are found to be on oil the right track the bishop lays the rod on the tile shelf steif this is the case with br Bri briham bribar Brig drig ham bam does le lie chastise this tin s that and the other man because lie likes th tb job no you yon know that lie is mild and is a father to this people a and lid rid were I 1 to take any exception to his course it would be 0 on n account of his being so merciful why because lie i iq more merciful berchul merci lul lui than I 1 iam lam am when he extends mercy to 10 lle ile lie he people lie he deals dras it butmore lavishly than thai I 1 would unless theford til lord should leid laid me as lie does him I 1 lane iane have lave not so much mercy so much of god arld alid arid mid eternal life in me as br brigham has in him it does not belong T tome to me to have so much for lie he stands at the fa fountain of lire life lie descends below all things and ascends abea aboa aavo all things g to this dispensation I 1 hear mei undertake to laugh and aud joke in theio thelo familiar chat with each other oilier and say that they haird br brigham Brig hain harn say this or thal thai and und that thes they sw av br brigam do this that or the til other and strive to justify the m taves eaves on that ac coant but br Brig briham belham hain commands an influence that you do not command and cannot be thrown 0 off fr tile the 11 line ile tio of propriety 0 biety and truth as easily as you veix vein and me when en men do not know knor the power that constrains them thern they ought to be cautious liow ilow they speak and how they act I 1 br brigham drig BrIg 0 harn is a nather father to the quorums of this church Chur chun cli cil and when the tho i people aru aro right has lias he lie a disposition to chastise them no ile he has a rath I 1 erly feeling to bless them and so has br lieb I 1 do net no t know whether I 1 have as much mue of or i feeling as either of them with willi regard to tile tiie church but I 1 do not trot suppose that there is a miu min min 1 I 1 on the earth that is fonder of children than I 1 am atin if I 1 do not like old people so well as some do 1 I j like children well lough enough a to balance the ilia deficiency I 1 would ba be glad to see sea more peace peace mercy truth equity justice and ri righteousness mide nude manifest in the midst of this people we want vant the hay liay the straw the tile wood the stubble the I 1 dross and every impure burnt up when a man mail is wrong wrong and will wili turn round and do right I 1 love him setter cetter better than I 1 did before we do not feel like casting casing yon off like casting you into the mire and saying god almighty damn you von get out of or the mud and may tile the lord god G d af pf israel bless you is what we say I 1 had rather bless jen en men than curse oue one I 1 am not led to curse aut iam lam I 1 am led to chastise iniquity to 10 bring briny out the alloy expose sins and arid bring to light that which is wrong among the people but 1 do not want to curse them I 1 tell you that the devil Is working against us and arid Luci lucifer feris is il in the land did ou on L know now that he had come coma to this country 7 let me tell you the news today to day if you have not heard it lie he has come to this country arid and has been seen the real old fellow himself the same lucifer that thit was cast down from heaven A nother another thing did you know that all hell is let out for noon the master Is in illa ilia schoolhouse therefore th when we talk of hell we mean uncle jim uncle bill uncle sm sam and all our uncles alid eolis colis cousins Lils ells over the wide world we inen od old bab alon the confusion that is over lle ile lie the wi wile ae world but thanks be 0 ta o our god and arid to hiah high heaven the light of god isherw is here and the tiie truth of god is here liere and arid we have waged a war with lucifer under the banner of the lord jesus christ may we be able to stan stand in the contest and over overcome cone ne we bring no railing accusation against out our emmon enemy but we tell teil tel tei him and arid his host that they must surrender we sy say to the sinners in zion be afraid vou von on must surrender lo 10 the he lord jesus christ we say to you saints rub up your armor gird oil the sword of tle almighty and walk forth to battle and never neier yield the g aund on nd some men say sas that they reel feel sick and faint and iia weary ry when they their see so much darkness among the xea people I 1 feel reil as a I 1 could say to tha the mountains and und to all hell get out ol 01 my vay way aay or I 1 will kick you out I 1 lam iam am uotI not going to surrender I 1 want no poor puseyism around me ha hang ng not your sickle sickla anthe tree to rust but make il it still sharper add ard and ardaut cut more erain arain in fit one da day y than you have ever done and tell the hie devil that you are ahead of him you old men that let your sickles kies hies kles rust take them down arid and sharpen them up and walk valk into the fields and arid real down the grain that there may nuy be wheat in tile the house of zun zur our oun god for the tha harvest is great areat and there apers are few I 1 arn am not of or that cass class that believes in shrinking if there is a fight on hand give me share in it I 1 am naturally good natured but when tile the indi indignation nation nailon of the at Almi aimi shiy is in fit me I 1 say to 0 o all hell stand aside and let et the lord je jesus S us christ comp compin ill fit here ile lie shall be heir of the e cirth the truth simil triumph thid etta priesthood and christ shall shail reign 1 I 1 had hd rath nather rather r fight the devils that are tabernacles ern acles than those that thai are embodied tiie tile grand diffie difficulty gity we have to encounter 1 h from devils that enter into you alwy aki ake possession 0 ot youn your house sand then tilen ve ake to fight devils in 1 I Obern tabernacles acles we want the devits devils cist c out of apu and ind the power of god and arid the ilia light odthe al at inia mighty itty lity to shine in you yon as its a I limp limp imp the result of the teachings we are receiving if practiced will avill reform the whole community community comm unit anit y you are right we will cease to chastise we will cease to rebuke we ave will cease throwing in the arrows oc the almighty th roligh through you we a will oase telling tell teli ing you to surrender to repent of all your sins but until you do this we will continue coMi rUie rule to throw the arrows of god through you yon to hurl harl the darts darta of heaven upon you yon and the power of god in your midst and we will storm the bulwarks bulwa of hell and we will avill march against you in the strength of the god of israel and by the power of the priesthood rei res restored by the prophet joseph by the light of heaven shed forth by br brigham and liis his associates we expect to triumph and in the name of jesus christ we do not mean to surrender to evil |