Show DISCOURSE BT brigham oung bowery bunday 31 ORNING 17 1856 BY GLO D WATT we have had hid the of hearing the tsi mony of br whiting who ho lis li just ret returned from irom his mission upon which wh ch two tw 0 ye deais is ago from front san ban pete bra menil and clinton and several ot others thera have lately arrived flom their missions miss loas ioas aid did I 1 will here gibean ive an those breth en to come coule to the stand sabbath ith afren sabbath sab bab baUi aad tit d bear ber their les arld and speak to the people I 1 wish to say to the elders eiders who arrive come lome we ive would be it hippy appy to see ste st sue e yon with lib ils come ive ine will find seats for tor you yoi stid tild it if you are ure not nod ail eloquent elique av preachers e 11 eting ers era cume mine arid arld bear beir y your our testimony br whiting v 1 says baya that be he la is a mail ot or but butter few words daut taut 1 am satisfied that there is greater wisdom lill mill ii th many who ho siy siv say but little thin there is v with ith those thode who talk falk ao so luah m nh aa as for the multitude ot of words they are but ol 01 lille litile consequence the ideas are ot of far the great greatest est importance the kingdom ot of our god that thit is is set up on oil I 1 the earth does not ilot require ire iru men ot of many words inid and flaming oratorical etau 1 talents to establish truth arld and righteous iless liess it is not the many words that accomplish tile the des designs ignis of our father in heaven with him it is the ile acts of the people more than their words this I 1 bascon was convinced of before I 1 eui eul embraced braced tiie tile gospel had it lot been that I 1 clearly saw and understood that the lord almighty would take the weak things of this world to confound the mighty the wise and the talented there was fl loi noi odlin liing that could have induced me or pers persuaded persia added ded me to have ever become a public speaker I 1 did think and I 1 now think that I 1 am personally as well acquainted acquaint edwith with my own weaknesses as any other mortal is with them then for lor this ismy my fortune my good goo 1 fortune ami awl ani blessing and arid I 1 am ready to acknowledge that it is moie mote than many have got I 1 am of the 0 opinion oi nion that I 1 know and understand myself m self seif ab about t as well weil w ell eli as any person can know and arid understand me yet I 1 may think that I 1 know my weaknesses and in capabilities to the fullest while others may see weaknesses that I 1 do not still I 1 lam iam am so constituted that ni when hen I 1 disc discover my weaknesses I 1 bear them off on as well as I 1 can and I 1 say to all people it if ou on discover that I 1 falter fatter when I 1 do the best ican I 1 can what are you going gnip 0 to do about abou tit it 1 when I 1 first commenced preaching I 1 majer mafer made up Illy mind to declare the things that I 1 understood fearless of or friends and arld threats thi eats cats and arid te ga idless of caresses they ahey were nothing to me fur for it if it was my duty to rise before a congregation of strangers and say that the lord lives that he has revealed himself in this our day that he has given to us a prophet arid and brought forth the new and everlasting ev erl eri astin covenant tor for the restoration of israel and if that was all I 1 could say I 1 must be just juat as satisfied as thou though h I 1 could get op up and talk for hours if I 1 could only say that I 1 was a monument of the lords woric work upon the earth that was sulli clent and had llad it not been for this feeling nothing could have hav e induced me to have ha e become a public speak speaker er wilh h regard to preaching let a man present hims lf before the saints or ao go into the world before the nobles and grea great tillen men of tile the earth and arid let him stand up full fuli of the holy ghost full of the power of lod god arid though lie he mia ina lna iise use i words and sentences in an awkward style he fie will convince and arid convert more of the truth than can the most polished orator destitute of the holy ghost for that sp spirit i rit rid will prepare the minds of the people to receive the tile truth and the spirit of thie the speaker will influence the hearers so that they will feel it these reflections at aie are e my true sentiments and it is is knowledge with me with regard to speakers arid and people who have honest hearts who desire the kno knowledge Medge of the tile lord who are seeking seekim to know the will of god and w willing illma to become subject to it the spirit ot of truth wili will do more to bring persons to light and knowledge z than flowery alo flo lvery words this is my experience ien ieh ce and I 1 presume it is the experience of many of you ou and that til it you can call thit to mind when nhen you yoa first received the spirit of this gos rel ref pet when yon see a person at a distance yoa you can at times see the spirit of that person before you have the opportunity of speaking dking to him you can discern his spirit by the appearance of his bis countenance this has be been e my experience from my younger days and more especially since I 1 have become acquainted with sacred things my later experience has been very ery vivid with regard to the ap spirits iris ot of P people ea and it matters not to me whether lie lle th r they the say much or little so they but let me in e hear their ther voices and see them let me hear and see seethe the manifestation of their spirit that I 1 may know w hether whether they are const constanti constantly antl anti y wit with h us in their feelings I 1 wish to know the spirits of those that th it are around and with us its I 1 brethren you ou who have returned and are arc this season returning from missions we shall be h happy ap py t to 0 have yoa yon yo i take your seats with us on th hib his is stand and when opportunity offers we w e shall be glad to hear your 5 our voices and testimonies when I 1 rise before you brethren arid and sisters I 1 often speak of the faults of the people and try to correct them I 1 strive to put the saints in a right course and arid plead with them to live their religion beligio i to become better and to purify themselves before the lord to sanctity sanctify themselves to be prepared for the days that are fast approaching I 1 do this oftener than I 1 speak of the good qualities of this people and I 1 have hive reasons for this which perhaps you would like to h hear ear the and disobedient need chastisement the humble and arid faithful are sealed by the spirit of the gospel that tt we e hv hsi e received recen ed I 1 have not time nor hor opportunity to caress cartes the people or flatter them to do llo right nor often to speak well of them thim portraying their good qualities the consolations of the holy spirit of our comfort the lii lit harts arts of men andai and omen women old and young in every condition of this thib mortal life the humble the meek and faithful faith laith fui ful aie ate all the time tune consoled arid and comforted by the spirit of the gospel that e preach peach ly their comfort com lort tort happ intes joy alid aid peace must be received from the thu dountain loun toun tain head As jesus says lit the tile world ye shail have tribulation bait bit in uie me dehave ye have peace so we say to ourselves so vve we say to the bainte in the lord ye ha have hate e joy arid and comfort com tort arid and the light of truth which much shines shins upon your jour path the holy ghost reveals unto you youth things ings past present arid and to come it makes your minds quick and vi vivid id to understand stand the handy woric of the lord your joy is made full in beholding im the footsteps ot of our father going forth among the inhabitants of the earth this is invisible to the world but it is made visible to the saints and they behold the lord in his provi dences brinin brin bringing 0 in 0 forth the work of the last nys das 1 the hearts of the meek and humble are full of joy and comfort continua continually ll do to such need comport from mag rag yes if fany ny mourn perhaps a 1 rew few fe iv encouraging words from drin me would give them consolation dad do them good I 1 am always ready to impart what I 1 have to this people that w aich will cheer and comfort their hearts arld and if the lord will lead me by his spirit into that strain of reflections and teaching I 1 am more willing and ready to speak comforting words to this thia people than I 1 am to chastise them but hut I 1 hope and trust in the lord my god that I 1 shall never be left to praise this people to speak well of them for the purpose of cb cheering eer t and comforting them by the art of flattery to lead them on by smooth speeches day after day week after week month after month and year yer after year and let them roll sin as a sweet morsel under their tongues and be guilty t sail zall of tharis transgressing gressing the law of gad gold I 1 hope chope I 1 shall beverle never be left to flatter fl jitter this people or any people on the earth hi tn their iniquity but far rather chasten them for their wickedness and praise them for their goodness the lord praises you and comforts you it you live as you are arc directed if you live with your life hid ind with christ in god you do receive from the fountain head life joy peace truth ami and every good and wholesome principle that the lord bestows bestons upon this people an and your hears hearts exult in it and your joy is madg mada full this people are the best people upon tha fa face e of the tho earth that we have any knowledge of tale take the congregation now before me and arid what portion of them has been in the tile church twenty six years what portion has been in the church fifteen years but a small part how many of those before me were personally acquainted with joseph our prophet I 1 can cart see now and then one you can pick up one here and another there but the most of the people now inhabiting this territory never beheld the face of our teven quite a portion of this congre congregation atlon never beheld his bis face all this I 1 consar consider but few of this congregation have been assembled as to together grether more than a very few years tu to leneive and be bene fitted with the teachings from the fountain head directly from tho tha living oracles Ur acles how flow long iong have they been gathered some one year some two yearb years ears and some five or six deais ard aid and I 1 can bonfy y pick out a few in this thia congregation who were acquainted with tha thai prophet I 1 could d pick out a few of this assembly who have been here seven and eight years 4 you alio lio ilo understand the process of preparing mortar know that it ought to lay a certain time before it is in the best condition for use now suppose oise cise that our workmen should work over a portion and prepare it for use and when it is rightly temp tied suppose some come one should throw into the mixture A large quantity of lime this would at once destroy its cementing quality and you would have to work it all over and over a again ain aln this is precisely like mat what we have to do with this people when a new batch is mixed with the lime arid and sand which were ivere prepared ten crays trays ago before it is fit for use it has to be e worked all over with arith the ingredients and proportions that were used to make the hir fir farsi some think this rather hard but they va haye have ve to be worked over because they are in the tile batch again they are in the mill and ana like the potters clay which br kimball uses for a figure they have havo got to be ground over and worked on the table until they are made perfectly pliable and in rea readiness dines to be put on the wheel to be turned into vessels of honor now at suppose ose when it is 18 in this good state that somebody cody vody should throw in a batch of unworked clay it would spoil the lot and the potter would have to work it all over th the e cl clay a that was prepared has to be worked over w with tk the unprepared this principle makes many feel sobe bobe bore sore and some are starting 0 for the tile states and some for california because they will not be worked over bly sil so much and we cannot set a guara guari over the mi mill I 1 to leep keep the new clay from being thrown in you haysay may say that that is a my business no it is my business to throw in fhe the new clay and work it over and arid over and to use the wire to draw froin from the lump any material that would obstruct the potter cotter from preparing a vessel unto honor I 1 do not wish you to think that I 1 chastise good men and good women chastisements do not belong belon to them themo but we have bave some tome unruly people eople here those who know the law lavy of god t gut but ut will not abide it they have to ie be talked to and we have to keep talking to them and i i talking thit t to them until by and by they will for sake heir lr evils and tu turn rn round and become rood good nood people or take up their line of march and I 1 leave us I 1 have reflected much upon the true charac trot ter of mankind pertaining perta inin to the gospel of sal ration and more particularly particularly in reference to the character of that portion of mankind that is here in the capacity in which we now are how hard it is for pe people e to see and understand things as they are arc ora ota I 1 allude 1 lude in my remarks to his thib bis people who do reflect edt and who profess to aliee bl iee in a supreme being the creator of he the and the earth mho who have professed b by their acts that god has spoken in the last lys hys days that unto onto us lie he has revealed his will that he has givon given unto us the oracles of divia truth the gospel ft 4 life and salvation with th e of m i 0 P sute sure unto ourselves selves eter mii mil liffe hf this thib is 1 her le r ople opie I 1 am now prea preaching pr eachin chinEr f to at and unto whom I 1 wish to address my few rem remo aka how slow ii r v of p ns vis are to believe the th til n of god 0 hov how slow how many mm and women can I 1 find here mho vibo place implicit I 1 confidence in th r god perhaps you might wish an explanation 1 I nn with regard to the term I 1 hpe make use of awill I 1 will acknowledge my inability ab to eppli explain tn to the he fullest extent what I 1 regard as implicit imp icat nce in our god lb I 1 lip ile I 1 reason leason eason cason of this is th ten thousand opinions ns that people hac I 1 it if I 1 were to urge that we ought to have im elicit confide confidence nce in the fhe power ower and willingness of our god to sis in 0 i baoy us y doing everything for would ett rt the thread of my own faith falth it would run coul for hen r to many maar of my ideas in re rp gard to the dei des lincis of the th almighty with the human f family amily on ott the other hand how much i confidence ebal shall I 1 have in god one says 1 I have no condid confidence ance in him any further than what I 1 can see h har hear ar and understand I 1 have no confidence that cheat will grow here unless I 1 put it into the tho f round or that I 1 will have food to e eat tat uhle uns unies s I 1 take the proper steps for ral rai raising sine J it I 1 or purchase it from those that hr h e ir it 12 both oth of th st points are true in part but the minds of th b people are more or less be clouded to explain how bov much confidence we should hae have ha e in god were ivere I 1 using a term to suit my self I 1 should say implicit confidence I 1 have hav e foth loth in my god and ana that faith corresponds with the works I 1 produce I 1 have no confidence in faith without works shall I 1 explain I 1 this I 1 do not think I 1 can fully present the idea to your understanding but I 1 will a portion of it and to do so I 1 will refer to a 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