Show 11 10 of the commission to investigate duplication of work in the agricultural college of utah and the university of utah 1903 continued C from last issue letter no 7 this letter was written by president northrup in 1803 1893 on oil the montana situation oct 3 1893 my dear sir dy by all means the of higher education carried on oil by a state should lie be kept in one institution and not divided up in different institutions duplicating and re duplicating unnecessarily the different chall chairs s in minnesota ota the college of agriculture Is in ili the university so Is the school of mines we mean to keep it so the result is most satisfactory letter no S from president jacob gould could schurman of cornell university ver sity INI may ay 15 1906 dear sir I 1 am in receipt of or bour our inquiry of the ath dinst relative to the union of the agricultural college with the university of utah and enclosed memorandum bearing upon the subject I 1 have been so busy that I 1 have haie not had time till now even to lead these communications I 1 must content ma myself with a brief statement that I 1 favor the consolidation of 0 the two institutions on the same ground of greater effi efficiency clency in their and greater economy to the state apart altogether bioni having two rival institutions petitioning the legislature for increased inci eased appropriations the gravity of which you will readily recognize I 1 am confident that the trend in ili modern education is altogether in a direction of having agriculture technical and schools which a generation ago existed as separate entities combined with universities the university as art an education institution can call indeed get along without the agricultural college but the ng ag college which perpetuates a separate existence is doomed declined to inferiority ferio rity of and standard it needs the spirit the standard the faculties and the men of a un university hersity faculty to give it proper tone and efficiency furthermore further more the moral effect on agricultural students of mixing freely and on equal terms of the student the university is an advantage that cannot be overestimated 0 wherever agriculture maintained a separate existence the students almost of necessity feel themselves inferior to the students of the universities the union between tile me agricultural college and the university implies no sacrifice of the ideals which the agricultural college should properly keep before itself here at cornell university while our college of agriculture enrolls this year 33 graduate students it maintains with equal efficiency the regular under graduate 4 1 years course the one or two tv 0 o years special course the short winter course for farmers sons and daughters who he are admitted without examination and the college extension work which circulates bulletins and maintains correspondence with scores of then thousands of farmers throughout the state what I 1 maintain is that an agricultural college thus connected with a university chile hile retaining its own ideals can carry them out far more effectively than when it is set oft off by itself very truly yours JACOB GOULD COULD SCHURMAN letter no 9 from president ed q 3 round mund J james of the university of illinois may liay 14 my dear sir your favor of may ath inquiring my opinion as to me th e advisability of consolidating the university of utah and the agricultural college has come to hand the older I 1 giov the less inclined I 1 feel to give advice on oil any subject to anybody without knowing of the local conditions on this subject however I 1 am very ery clear in my mind as to the general principles there may be special peculiar circumstances in the lie state of utah which would lead you to adopt a different plan from that ind indicated by general principles there is no doubt Nhat whatever ever in my mind that a union of the agricultural college with the other colleges of higher education in every state university and all loaded at one place is fiona an educational point of view by far the most desirable arrangement in such cuse case bacr college strengthens all the others you can do the same amount or of work fora for a smaller eapen dittie of money or with a given amount of money you cu can accomplish tai fat more college and university work I 1 think that one of the explanations of the marvelous marve loud louil growth of the university of Illin illinois clis it has had the most rapid growth of any large state in the last ten years is to be found in the tact fact that the college of agriculture its college of mechanic arts its college of arts and literature era ture college of science etc etc are combined into one institution and located in ili one place I 1 have further no doubt whatever that if ion have an adequate site the strategic and proper place for the state university is at the state capital if that city is also the metropolis of the state that affords a double reason for its location in that center faithfully yours EDMUND J JAMES letter no 10 from R H tesse jesse of the university of columbia mo may 23 1906 my aly dear sir la in regard to the proposed consolidation of institutions of higher learning in utah I 1 can call say nothing better than I 1 have said in the letter enclosed see letter no 11 my experience in education which Is wide and varied dones not deimit me to see any argument for separation in virginia where I 1 taught first I 1 saw the university and the agricultural college separated to the detriment of both in louisiana I 1 saw the same thing I 1 helped much toward the consolidation of the state university with the tulane in that institution today I 1 see the strongest university south of the virginia missouri line but tor for the consolidation there would have been two feeble fighting institutions tut ions in missouri where I 1 have been sering sen ing for fifteen bears ears I 1 see the splendid results of consolidation between the ollege college of agriculture and the state slate uni university versify at columbia the college profits in the highest degree to the consolidation and so does the remainder of the university I 1 see our school of mines fortunately under the control of the university but unfortunately separated from the remainder of 0 the institution to the of the school of mines and the remainder of the university it would pay missouri handsomely to moie her schools of mines from rolla to columbia and thereby consolidate into one institution all her institutions of higher learning our school of mines is a department of the university ver sity but it suffers dally from the fact that it is geographically separated ep a ra and it costs the state tens of thousands of dollars annually for needless duplications if utah wants to do the wise thing it will consolidate in one strong institution somewhere in the territory the university its school of mines and I 1 its ts college of agriculture and it will also develop in the same university a department part ment of pedagogy which shall be stronger and wiser and broader than any normal school in the terri territory tor es and if later the school chases to establish a school of music and one of art let them be where these other I 1 institutions n are arc you askinis me aliat I 1 think I 1 have tried to tell you plainly very truly yours R 11 II JESSE letter no 11 this also was written by president jesse I 1 in ii IS 1893 9 3 in relation to the situation in montana university of the state slate of mo columbia oct urd ard my dear sir in my opinion it is far better to combine in the state or territory with the university the college of a agriculture the school of mines and in ili fac fact t all the higher educational forces into one shiong institution all my life I 1 have fought tor for this doctrine and it I 1 have achieved anything it has been through strict adherence to it A very interesting pamphlet was issued on this subject last winter in the form of an address to the members of the legislature of montana hiob ably the superintendent of education could forward iou a copy very truly dours R I 1 U T JESSE president continued next week |