| Show SAYS EVANS ml MADE UNFAIR STATEMENT editor deseret news in a recent issue of the 1 aws news prof john henry evans in an article upon the university vs the agricultural college question proves himself very unfair and biased to the latter institution said article la is also misleading and in some matters inaccurate to say the least regarding the attendance at these institutions the article states facts as to students the university has student tr not counting the normal training school the kindergarten the summer school or the branch nor or mal at cedar city of the regular students in the university are of college or university grade the agricultural college has students of whom are district school grade leaving 5 0 as compared with in the university of the 63 30 students in the college only 71 are enrolled as of college grade according to the catalogues cataloguer catal of the university and the agricultural college for the year 1905 6 latest issue the attendance during the school ear 1901 5 exclusive of summer school attendance was as follows university students of college grade of preparatory grade total agricultural college college grade high school or preparatory sub preparatory 37 7 total I 1 have not before me the catalogues cataloguer catal tor for this year but I 1 presume that the comparative attendance would not vary to any great extent from what it was last year I 1 ant am informed by the registrar of the agricultural college that the number of students at that institution during the past year doing work of college grade is A comparison of these two statements Is all to prove the bias of the professor against the college and his favoritism for the university ver sity then the author slightly refers to the short courses of various kinds and the low grade or standard of the students at the college and how greatly the university students udena st out ut ranks in grade and Import importance inice those a ak the college he also deplores the attendance at the C college of students sta dents rod from f other states al all I 1 ot of which proves aut author tle r is does days not co consider nElder and approve of adaptability to the actual conditions and needs tf of tile the people nor the popularity of the college at home and abroad the author of the article also says that there would be little objection to leaving the agricultural college with what it has it if that would settle the mated matted but the teal leal situation developed at each session of the legislature Is whether in addition to what it has got the northern school shall get also the portion that ought to be left to the other selic schools Vs ile he then goes on to say that the agricultural college asked front from the last legislature foran amount greater than that asked for by the state university state normal school the state school of mines and the branch normal at cedar I 1 find on page 4 42 1 of the report of the board of reemts of tile the university submitted to tile the last le legislature that the request for the past blent ilum was 3 the ithe bentlie anth e amount asked for by the college was if I 1 we add to this the am mount received from the federal government erni pent the biennium 50 the total amount would be but if the income from the federal government Is added to the amount asked from the ae legislature gi slature by the college the income from the land grant fund of the university alty must abo albo be added to the amount Te requested quested from the legislature by the university according to the regents gents le ie leport aboe aboia referred red to the interest from the land grant fund was 40 00 this amount added to GI given above makes a total of nearly more ilia than tile the amount asked tor for by the college then the author said and hi only after a few kears cars after afier the whole contingent from the north had argued it in tile the constitutional convention that if the location of the college should be confirmed at logan I ogan the cot cord continued on page seven SAYS EVANS MADE UNFAIR STATEMENT continued from page 3 lege would be almost it if not quite self belf supporting this came home to uie tile writer as he be I 1 was the only member of the constitutional tut ional convention from the north who made any statement that could be misconstrued into the above this is what I 1 said we will promise you gentlemen it if you will let us alone and continue appropriating the small pittance of the past or little advancement A van cement thereupon if you can afford it we will make mak e an institution up there logan of which every member on this floor will be proud inside of five years and I 1 might have added as proved by events following of which the university will be more envious than ever if that is the promise referred to ea by the author it was soon after broken by the university people tor for they refused to let us ua alone here is where the whole trouble commenced and where it continues up to date date I 1 beg beff to ta differ with the author again the question Is and always has been whether logan is to keep what it has got or not the writer was also a member of the second legislature after statehood and at that time the university was as pulling hard for what the college had its courses and work and money to pay for same having already introduced duplications thereof the idea of a free state school being self supporting is entirely new to the writer and perhaps to anyone else except the professor who in justice to the people of this state ought to arise and explain more fully how this can be done so far as any other pledges alleged to have been made by the friends of i the college at the constitutional convention and subsequent legislatures whether made by president paul or others as to what the future demands of the institution would be such pledges would be without authority and merely personal opinions as no one could bind the institution to any particular policy or restrict it to any specific limits the college is a state institution managed by a board of trustees trustees tile the pajo majority rity of whom do not live in cache count county y and anaf who are governed in the management of its affairs by the laws under which the institution Is working it is therefore absurd to assume that the people of cache county should they even be disposed to do so would have the authority to determine just should or should not be done again it is said that it if the college keeps up its present extrac t gance elementary and higher education I 1 will be both permanently crippled here I 1 would advise the professor before attempting to the mote from his brothers eye should remove the beam from own in connection with the statement regarding extravagance following statistics will be ot of interest r legislative appropriations to A C to university 1901 3 1803 5 1905 7 please note that ae the increase of appropriations appropriation s to the university sity lias has apen from to a little more than ga per cent and to d the he agricultural college from to or only about 24 per cent while the average increase in the attendance during the the years 1901 02 to 1904 05 inclusive in the university was about percents percent and in the college about per cent from this there can bo be no doubt as to which institution if either is maki making ng exorbitant demands upon the state and which institution Is extravagant in its expenditures bf 0 money furthermore regarding the entire controversy between tile the agricultural college and the university at tills time it ts Is important that the people of the state slate understood that the university and NOT the college is responsible as air already eady shown an ex examination into the matter shows show 3 beyond any question af pf of doubt that the agitation as to the respective fields that these two institutions should occupy and the appropriations each should receive from the state has been originated by the university people I 1 aitho without ut a single exception it is therefore unfair that the university people who are themselves responsible should attempt to place the odium of the present condition of affairs ati afi fairs upon the agricultural college or its friends when the author infers that even the district schools are or will be crippled by appropriations to these institutions he be is entirely mistaken for the support of these schools dose not come from the same funds but from a special stancl tax levy of three mills on the dollar and b by y the way if a similar rule v was as applied to the higher educational institutions leaving the locations where they are and maintaining the law denning defining the courses of study in each the whole controversy would be settled and all lobbying by the forces of either ot of these institutions would cease the same rule ought to be applied toalii other othe public institutions the professor agon again makes this break buildings are wasted so sa tar far as the state is concerned the buildings in logan are already wasted the state gets no equivalent benefit from the worth ot of buildings it has put there this insult to the past statesmen of the territory and the state of utah to the numerous patrons of the college and to the hosts of young men and women who have received in that institution a good practical educational foundation for success in life ille I 1 hope will be pardoned upon the principle of the man who was kicked by the mule he considered where it came from we have no fight against the university and do not wish to belittle its efforts or insult its patrons but blit are prepared to compare results obtained for the same cost both public and private with hat bat institution in conclusion will state that the de dc mands f from roul the state by the university have always been and always will the be ivet extravagant it in fact your lobby lists have hav been against all the appropriations by the state tor for any 4 purpose whatever except your own and when you prate about economy you are arc talking to the galleries your only object in duplicating the college courses in the past and your recent endeavor by an extra session of the legislature to steal the whole institution is tor for the sole purpose of getting more money and gain popularity without regard to the sacrifice of the college expense to the people or any beneficial educational results unless extravagance in state institutions must cease and educationally it must begin at the university we have gone to an unreasonable extreme in spending public money for lu surie under the name of higher glier education and so far no one has been brave enough to call a halt for fear of being ostracized ostracised by the educators of 0 both state and church but the time has arrived when extravagancies along ta these ll 11 lines will be cut out and the people will likely instruct the next legislature to trim these expenditures tures down to the real and actual needs of the people of the state our professors have gone abroad and seen what the world renowned institutions are doing and without regard to the finances of our new and small commonweal common commonwealth wea 0 ot the e pr preparatory educational status of our students numbers or grades have introduced and established such courses in our institutions and have then appeared before the legislature for moneys to support the same no one has called them down or opposed these unwise methods but the most that has been said is gentlemen we are very sorry we can not fill your requisition requisite on for cash although we would be pleas d to do so simply because the state funds are too limited no one has dared to go behind these extravagant and demands and cut them down on their merit merete hut but it must non now be done from tour four to five dollars per der capita per annum tor for V thi 1 e common common schools nothing for district schools but unreasonable large sums for students in obsolete classical courses without securing completion in such courses and acknowledged results must and will be corrected yours for foi the interests and schools of the people INGWALD C logan utah aug 6 1906 |