Show TELLS id f G S M t Say Sa Whether Report Implicates An of or the lie liet Present Members t rl j HE WANTED BEAVERS SCALP t A Number of or Years car Ago to go He lie First t Suspected lie He Vas Wai Not Just The Tue Thing Washington March Irth committee today continued con i tion of or the tM th report from the tile ce I department is of ot Congress Congre If I General his testimony mony Mr Burton asked Mr sf if It the cleric clerk hire allowances were not mado to secret regulations In III Inthe Inthe the department f There Thera Is 10 lalL n 1 schedule 1 I understand p j replied Mr AIr In the tho as a aI I alike omco that Ig Is l up upon Upon I l on which theo e oro arc based bused I would not want to say IlAY y that Mr lieu Ie cr In the tho administration of that M inde these thee allowances In to regulations relf I think he hu h ml o r in rn ins JIll own r Mr McCull Mc asked n ked It If any no congress congressmen men knew what the secret rule Was Wast t NOT IN i III It I dont know mow anything about that van Willi as Mr It HIli IH Is not n t tIn In my If own bureau and 1 t could not Kay I was Informed by tho the first us HS t postmaster general that It was Wan to membeni of Cun Con t Mr Bristow did not know whether f tho members of ever hud had been about this test Ho Be suggested that the tho first r would bo be able to give a II moro more satisfactory an nn answer Rent Hent of ot offices office It was explained Mr M was waR limited by law to a n maximum of or 00 a year and nn an allowance of ot ICO 60 tar for fuel f el and Mr All tL th n read real to Mr Uris tow tOI a n number of or questions to ascer r 1 tain to tam In tho the Identity of tho the Persons who lio liol l prepared thu th retort report first askIng with Ith reference to part put of ot the tha rn 11 i tort referring to clerk cleric hire Mr Irs uris tow said mild 1 ho hud had no Information except r what ho he had hall been hH told lie He suggested that First Assistant Po cral erol Wynne could un answer rr that question As All to tho tilo lease JeaNe section of ot tho the report i lie he said Raid ho tie would furnish tho the li with a list of ot the Inspectors who mado made 9 up Ilu the repot t i Do Oo you yuu may Hald Mr Purton that t in iii this report to the tho commit committee 1 tee concerning members of Congress there Is no proof of Improper conduct on Oil tho the part ot of any members of or the tha tit ei present Congress First 1 I will cili ask nak askwith u nakI k I with reference to clerk I Well I J could not ny say I have not noti i lieen to go over It i and examine t ite rho The lease section nation of Ir tho the report repart was to the tho Question L with reference to tl criticism of tiC Y of ot if Congress Mr lo paid It I Ih lio he h had not in III mind any all cases outside l tho tim three ho he had hall prepared Con COli Mr ir tov paid WAS W A J YN H I t was as to tn 3 goto II to tn wn was Mr lIell cr flint t re in inThis This fern to tile tho methods method lie at if his hili tion n nd In that It f bringing I In III mem m I bern JerA of or hail had mado r ho allowed where 1 I II I considered such Improper 1 did not It Incumbent on mo me moto moto to stata whether a member lit f Ai Imd liati done anything Improper or pint not I IF F dimply not forth the tha facts unit drew drel my conclusion with to o Mr dr dri i 1 J think I cor cere 4 that lint on pago ngo lit of my 11 ro 10 hj Here Mr related how hOI ron eon i an as n a 1 rule rull want their constituents constituents to have what they tire Justly en ca entitled entitled 0 titled to tn no n more arnie I Continuing hl testimony test teAt Mr Uris tow tOI remarked t Tho responsibility of ot hose o allow i miren 1 I 1 plumed entirely on Oil tho the depart department t inePt ment It If a I member of ot Congress pur purposely or 01 o Inadvertently a IL ice n ho the responsibility IH is In III 11 p tho the department seems t to be he bell a ion that Hint I hato havo nn an on Oil ni niI I members ii of ot Congress continued Mr 11 r III 1111 I That Includes both houses Inter IntI Interjected Mr r Well clI I certainly never have havo con COli concluded I Mr Mi used U any tint that could be that way wa waDo Do Pa you ou know n ked Mr Burton I h of ot any case calC In this report of Improper conduct with reference to the making HULking of leases on the part of r the tho congress congressmen men 1 1 dont know linow of any but I am not nol familiar with that report so I dont see Fee that I J can express myself with reference to It Then you OU make the tho same answer with regard to 10 clerk hire as ns to leases asked Mr McCall Yes Yen sir lr INCONSISTENT NT Mr called Mr at attention att t to this lila language In his hili own ro re report port Congressmen frequently ask uk to 10 todo todo do lIc things which they themselves them would refuse to do If tho the responsibility of ot de lIe decision cislon was vaa upon them The rho traditions of American politics politic afford many In atanes of this kind kindI I take It that was vas merely a n ical lea nourish flourish commented Mr Burton I think that members of ot Congress tie free frequently recommend things or ask things which If the time responsibility was on them to 10 decide they thC would refuse what whal they have recommended I think have declined many things members ot of Congress havo have asked n ked and that If It they th y lad hail been In my position and had taken It up from the th standpoint of ot the ex cx executive they would woud 0 ld have made the pa same mo decision that I did I have In 0 found fouM them Fair men to do buetti ss with Mr Bartlett called Mr tow at nt attention to U n statement stat mont In lii the tho original report as nil follows Tho Tio T o foregoing cases cuell refer to clerk hire In third and fourth class offices A hundred similar cases ClUel could be bo cited rime Dia millions million that hive have been appropriated appropriated for 01 that purpose during th the lust foUr years have b been n used by Heavers Beavers largely ns IS an per for tor forthe forthe the tM of his personal and amid political friends Does Doea the other ether refer to congressmen naked Mr There Them may have havo ItO been beell Congressmen In n that large larKe number o a eases I had Imd In III mind answered Mr M r Bristow Mr BrIstlY was wall Asked to submit tho the 1 joo 00 O other cases easell Mr Me McDermOtt lt concluded the Ines Investigation gallon of ot Mr by asking a I number of questions question regarding he oto official chit cial duties of the tho fourth assistant post lie He brought out that there here are lito Inspectors IlI under the juris of ot tho tooth fouth assistant for fop which Is III appropriated ted Those These Thc o are arc under general and not no directions mA WAS lV AS When did you 01 suspect Mr u wr vera of ot cd Mr Well VelI a 1 number r of ot years ago ngo I bought thought Mr was not just thu kind ot of nit nn other t I would lint for fOI or rt it 1 subordinate but limit I had no specific tutor Information mation regarding hIs hla hI conduct UM 1111 you have any suspicion about Mr Mi It Heath 1 Mr MeI I dont think I could say nay that I t Mr Br Integrity undo mind Mr tow You did suspeCt Mr Heavers Beavers ieli I do un not know knol that I J suspect lIu ctt d It isis hili After the lon tion began I J became very ery Of clearly you con that ho he WIlH sau dishonest dl Alter After Homo caine further Mr commented us follows My Judgment In Is that your our whom postal system Is I rotten mid and I t think there hero arc Instances In your depart department ment meat Mr then lieu th 1111 hi I If It you were suspicious why wh did you not In Ine e 7 1 Because I would have been prompt promptly ly Iy y toll told that I had no rio business to hives Into another mans man department t I could do ulo that Hint only If it Instructed to do dono doso no so I 1 hud had nn no authority to Investigate Mr Heavers Mr naked Mr about nl out clerk hire allowances In his lila home nitice In lu Kansas City to which refer reter neo enco Is III made In i the report Mr had no knowledge on the tho subject object The Tho committee then titan went Into hue live Ivo First t Assistant Chief hief Ch ef Wi ter of ef tho the salary aumI nd allowance division and Mr Omit hili clerk to remain The Th committee adjourned for the day alter for twP two hours hour behind closed doors that part of ef tho the report elated to clerk cleric litre with First Assist AMI st lint limit Wynne Supt Bupt Waters and Clerk these will go gon goon goon on n tho the stand lit and III In open session tomorrow Chairman McCall stated that them ruts MIH nothing brought out In the Ivo tivo H F that will wilt not bo ho made put IU lie le nt at the th hearing bearing tomorrow |