| Show White hite Haired tB hed Preacher cl el Shakes Sh eS London Ds SeWs Special English En lish Correspondent Has Uns Interview With Reginald Ro John lohn Camp Cai Campbell Campbell bell Who Succeeded Dr Joseph Parker as 15 s Pastor of ol the fh jinous City Temple H U nd 0 t on I Special Correspondence o no May Iu 15 1 In ln another ag III L I John CLI junior J d of the Ille CIty CIt Temple would hii ha boon beell burnell tit II a t tile tho stake ns os a 0 heretIc And lId there thIeve aie those c today loda perhaps both ill Iii tin till United States and Brita III who wh believe that he lit urh U a II punishment t men and women too who fully help hell pile Ine tIle the faggots aguts fU around him mid and light lIht the pyre Ire As know kIlow si IL big ton Is raging nOd and the thc nov n H 11 J Ill Is the thic center Al AI Although AIth I though th Sir 11 Campbell 11 hul hIllel his bill views ia as eaily as OH l September of oC last lah year It I t was 1111 only lIllY at al It t Ill C that thai 1 his Ills message wan WIH set sl forth orth fully In III public File Tho world was startled there Here was u no 1111 II shrieking demagogue no nc IL I blatant charlatan It I I wis a n confession of o LI C faith II tIli In III science by Il IJ all an mill Isler Inter of If the gospel Ao IL a i man of oC tried and proved sincerity the tho of 01 tile the famous It 13 Dr DI Joseph J I tho Ihn t 1 of or the lie I pastorate U of ot great City ily Temple 1111 iiI Somewhat 1 to lo II his own 11 acton l apparently I II Mr 11 i i Campbell was vii suddenly holsted hoisted Into the tilO position oC Cl o ochief chief dud apostle of or Ii C the he 1 new theology I al although though I he II the tile title t I I IC ICor OP or HUSH J m This III It of or 0 Irish I parentage go of fit It Scotch cli 3 ct loll oC of It l FI gi hI an II Ill Is hi today known In all nil tile the four fouL of It the tIle globe nobe He lie In is Uc ele iii uncoil 1 and 1111 praised i for or his hi is aliened lb H In III Il a 1101 c of if o und In ill thousands t I i lIdS and a nil tho II of o 3 C lot 1 Cli and newspapers tIerS thai hIlt I como Lomo pouring In upon him 4 III g to lJ Mr 11 r tIl III now new theology th oloA IH ill not agnostIc hut but Is IN the tho oC the humanity of nf GOtI and tin the of nC mini In lii of o the tile movement Ill t follow II I II i hili II Is candid c ca lid Id lon or ot now faith ho he says BayS ThlIn Tills In ill only u II I theological movement 1111 Ill t I It 1 I I is flit fill more a Il moral and It tOll I movement Ill I It 11 I t In Is a ii L 11 H I It IK Is rising spOil pon t sly In every cr church In III hI rb and n r or Ot 01 later inter It Il will trIll call the tho lIe whole cI vi I Izeh world halt to tn Cod 1111 1 oI 11 It 1 will wil Put iut an 1111 In end Ind to the tillS from rob id I gIno of o I I ihu ha II t on LII 01 the thc Olle hand build and of the I lie I II it I hassall on tIle the tl other 31 ii 1 Ix III tilt tho Oo iel of thu 11 I 1111 of It nud id idI I o him hll out In hi hil home 1 wanted to 10 0 get el till hn Hi men and 1111 It 1115 from fl loIn till the tt I Ill JIlt 1110 this IllS I man manIn In ill hid hil bluck lIlIO M M N I UI iti CS wll II vIt II hil II I s inimical I voice ulce ami II Ill I thorn I hl IIi 1111 I Il tie Ier LOCALITY lity lID Hill 11 I IH Is u a i noine little tIle tho IU of ul 1111 a it mutter of CC or I Il ton len miles I t to 11 the ihlo north of o London Hill 1111 J I ill IH Is II a n lunse lur lie hlo lit I I till thi top lop 1 of U t the lie I hill hi I It I I t In Is II t till t 1 li tile the e It H J hIes Wil U II till tho houim hou for mr hid 1115 hl f runner all lii 11 till the land 1111 around In royal 1111 and Ihl t 1114 Ii I hunt hlll hI I Ilog log In Within u IL I few fell uld nf of o thin I I 18 lH I Ill hl I II I I Ill I Ll 51 orP lioun wu I III the lie I I II I I lot of ut th Ih 1113 I II tu OU II Ii lo lu tIlls till day IhlY on ull very cI Nov Ol Jl 5 r by hy tha 1111 youth II of nf IF TIlde I ill III no till In II nil 1 10 1111 tIlts thin home of 11 Mi 1 Around It I am are undulating and 1111 woodland In II I lb tIle tho front 1011 of ot Oft the t iti house s I tIle tho lly I II U atlon II tl t of o If an 1111 II II I to I ia Ii jU to tu Ih I 1114 lIght of IC t tile the a IL more inure II Down I OI tl il leafy leary lea y allf nuin hun hll IlL II of It t y r U ami 1111 Ii u bitu 1111 one OlIC clinICs ui n n I a f tI tInd tIll Mn Ill gl nd l with wih 1 I I II t Mil ml l uin II 1111 l IIII I ted lCd Ild t I und lilack lIve I The ill Itself i is III full Ill I n of l lIt of Ut IUM III and ant antII It I t IH IN u I 1 t II I I It tIe h HUlm ib man of oC Ill l I I tilt I to tl Mr i r l 11 iii s sIN IN I I it II II I II bIl r E hl hil I 11 u dj o o Ii ml tIn the t o workrooms of It hm 1118 ii Is TIle Ihu win 1111 III 13 tl tilt 1 lii 1 I hit I I I lea I ulI I II H Loll 11 II I i tI 34 are un 1 It S I n with IV i hi 1 It ry 1111 book K hI Mem Mn new I I i I mui u ua lill tl U leal kol but certainly as 1134 lS untidy as US lN lIllY any editors 01 le Amid the d at or oC armchair It II is and tad luxurious rugs there IE Is a striking note oC of twentieth century mo modernity IO writers tile the presence of American type lyile typewriters At AI first sight night John Campo Camp Campbell bell lulls lakes one by b surprise Luminous eyes yes 05 that Room S CI to 10 It your Inmost what onu Hees first The Thearo They are arc and 1321 constantly COnstanti color at least so one fancies no black blaik now floW fightIng blue bine mm II brown with wih guIlt glint of or sold They rhey aie 1111 I the I feature calulo of sI n I a l pale lIlt 10 ascetIc face lIce by b busily bushy bu h lle eyebrows by b curlIng vavy l hair hall Slight frail almost womanly la is II tile tho figure of o tilts this man mi with small hands bands small 1 I feet small Si al I frame ill 1110 a I breith might blow him away aWI Hut hilt Jut his aims are lIre long IouI and all he III IH knows how hol to us them Ills Ils voice oice Is lieu ilch 1111 reon Oi Cut musical OK OF He HI le rno 10 In ill Il lib his everyday n working narb gIl rb plain II hg to tl II shah I b only by h a v loose vel velveteen I coal conI He lie l Is a I bundle bUllo of 01 nelLes of or steaming nenn of lit II en Cli in Not u It dreamer but 1111 a II work on or 1 not hot n 1 but hilt a IL 1 leader 31 T 1 T quickly found fould that out lie ile dIll did not hot preach lo to L me 1113 11 we wo talked as man and oId uld man 1111 He lie 10 sat 1110 side Ido of tho tIlo gloat Rt lout lost In II I I tin the roomy 1011 lIly Ills Is body boily bOIl was crouched along Ihn Ihl i I Ill Heal jOB t bl hla ii Is l k legs fis crossed one 00 lonn aim lay II over the 1113 arm Irm of the tile the theOther Ihl Ihlo tileO Other o hel II CI held and 11 Il I the thc I biff hi a central llulU I v ave U of Ut hair hl which clowned his Ills heu 1 his Ills when hen nt ot It Is I a IL trick 01 of hl ills hll I e 1151 e to 10 this Ill Is lock und Imd hold II It I ItI HJ I II U iI 1 I 11 Ps father tt Is I a It minister at lIt In lit II Not ot The IIi son was WOM 8 a 0 sickly threatened by le h heart and lungs Ko SO 10 his hil father fi ii rig for fl or a I foothold aol In ill II a It city cl oh I him hll ii I III nit hIlt the I lie cure cal of Ut the I Ito boys hOf J IO a 1 stern st erIl old Il Presbyterian elder elti er I I ri In Ill the 11 t lie open pel Invigorating I hag Irish all air U I r of o a II I 1150 In Ill 11 the he t of Iho tue country Cantry In Ulster 8 silent nt Ills his hil youth 1 OK lW 01 HP I Is knew little of It his hil father or 01 ii When tV 1114 hil gIll nd ii tiler died ii lell loll the boy fIlled faced lite thic of or oneo tIe Ilu entered Nott I ag le 3 allt mil Il Id when bo III II I ed of ot It t tl 11 Hi 11 I II assistant master in inn tel tor He lie was uvis Wil an 1111 11 n ft it le ii In III I II lIe near 1044 V Man Mani III l Ii 0 i hosier 1 r It Wil an 1111 school I f hun hIl U and while tIll I It I church h lift lie wan on for fot or tile the UI Ihl r 1 f Wil lUl Church ol It of ot tile the flInCh finned us 11 a IL lt I 11 At AI A t this I It Is school Mr t r I Itell tell fell In II love Iov In with tho tile womanly Cel woman who has hal 1113 kOch been beel hil a alIver lIver since Two r years 11 hl hil Ills tills tl Ii father II tiler of or a I child 11 Ml MI t Campbell Illicit Oxford as lbS 1 n U I He went H II Ill Christ briNE tile Ilia of II of ot SaIls Halls I bury Ill f t u II of It t the 1110 modern inline jIll hul ha ministers III Ill 1015 of OC le 1 In li I II a 41 1 lonu I of o Illness new 5 I 1011 to ill lilN hil II Is bedside that 1111 I hu tIC had hIS II rs I no I 41 und that lie h 1 bid 11 won II hi of o I II 1111 he H y In Iii 11 modem history hlOI and andIn h In lo ForCHT A CHHAT NI When tv he ho 1 his hil I i Is 1 II he h hf fought f tin till Tho liu 1111 of Ir It the Iho I lIe HUch I I IglI Cli Ii II It II I 1 lId him but 1111 hii he is at It thu the 1114 Olea I ci i II III 00 01 of lu I it lilly luy him Vat VOl h wr himself II 11 U ll mIll from thIn that I ii I ii roil and Ild II begun ft I In III I II tilt tho t lie tt II II hi I s around Oxford Anil 1111 I ye I u be hl h 01 lIlt sly Ily I II oh ld I u a 1 aliu liu 1311 not 1111 lut of tt It hi hil 11 ii hut of ot his hil II is fl ti I h hIt r rAn r I rI An 34 a I 3 11 II Jl I st t III lulled him Thu it t l I IllS I of lit lt tIlt nas I It 4 1111 I f ira kun 1111 3 1 IC ali lillY ui LIt I I UK its 11 lust Hut Jul In ill Il u It 1 your eur mine a Il 1 1110 11 mm IllS l i from rul till all 11 llin tibo world al ul 1111 Hi I They 1111 th tit iiiI I t r tl t hIll lIb I I I from the tho Church Ch of O l li i 1 l gIn The Ii II I tc tie church 1111 overflowed Lecky MIH Ils bIs Lord LorIl Lore Fug landH II Iese I I premier till henry Hemy Belli t III illicIt lIan cabinet lid l Ill great scientists churchmen 11 I It lights I s of lt It all al le in inI I flocked lo II I i hear r Ca Ill Such S 1111 was his ills that till the III other Con Coil I 1st church hurh chil rehi in JI B was VOS jollied joined to tu his hi Seven I eaK later lul in ter I all ni a I I ac lIC 1111 I him hll ii till an nIl I Including himself 11 elf roeun him hll as lS 11 the lIP man 1111 to to till hIll ni the tue UH Justly jUHt celebrated cpI II pulpit bILl I of o C tIle the City CI Cl ty Temple cal when It I should become vacant As s prophesied he 1314 followed l DI r I t r k kI ker r at III lt tho tilt City GI Temple That was utts WIS neatly 1031 11 Ily loll four 01 14 ago ato There herc Is Ill now 1100 11 talk of Ir Pastor Campbell I ll of nf his Ilia II Is con of It faith rl II I It ii h Some have haI taken I II ie n lenal 1111 I advice and nH may ia 1131 attempt tt t lit I tIle the courts to In I 1111 him out of or his Jill Jul PIt Hut this tillS Is IM not 1301 him him Nor NIh XUI legion liln hil friends lI and tt III SO who wll 1111 i are II a r I it lL would he be heto to 10 1 why and how Mr I Campbell had come COllie cOUe to I to make lulee his hil frol orthodox views 1131 There Is no II single cause or ur ho ill saId mild I J have been 1001 teaching these Ibello t III t lis for fIr I years 1118 C rH I dislike hill I he the Die th phrase ph 1 le Nor New bill hii hIll I Hi II I lIst I I eec I it be lie it I hIlts has come COIC to I stay Ilu Some of tit 01 Ih tilt lie are ure IC an 13 old 1111 almost us ilK u the 1134 Ihl hills Hut Bul Its 11 11 el I IK Is 11 1111 ll I with wih tit I the lie i adoption Il I of 0 1 modern II science The Ih Kleut results r we Wo have hUIe from rom 1111 modem today luca me RIe 1 com 00 new lOW IO Modern ScIence of If If It Itself I Itself self 11 Is IH scarcely leurell RO 50 fO old lilt Science 1 l Is only hilly lul the lIl mind ill I Ill trying tryl ng to II I II understand LI hIll tIle tho universe un I Is tile Hie to 11 I universe An As 1 soon HH lS re 11 I II theology I U it I must I ol t hId hIdIe be Ie consistent with clr el nee JCl or In be lIe for fon for Fl u I l Ie e universe 1111 I explored by hy science is II liter after all ull tile the very 11 1111 which calls soul to In IIO Ihl III el Tor VIII want of a better phrase lot let III UH 18 11 call tIle the movement the tho IllI New Nell ew Theology Hut lut can cull It also 1110 Iho 1210 tho higher politics hilt it 1114 or II I tin Ihl I ho higher It ItIs I ItIs Is one 1110 I I und arid the lie till I same 1110 bill lii C tiling I hill l The Ill 44 social Ia I movement U lii 1 the ItO Ihl g of lit 01 the lh humanity ty of i t r l tod od ot und 1111 ii 1111 the hId th 1 divinity y of nf i limn Social I reformers muy luy I not 1111 li 13 II 1811 It I they th may lay 1111 P not know kio it I I I They may 11 MUY P the 11 I me lre II 10 panillo 1311 Ill Ii ci JIll Hut I II I 1 believe they tiley uro one Ole and Ild tIle the Hume tb I il I air Tin VItt Il chinch hUH has nothing to t II do 11 with wih gOt Kelt t I UK lI men 1111 into heaven tO It UN Its real rul rk k In Is to 13 1 1341 heaven lm Ill Ill HUH his I very 1 lay III 3 world wurl Too JUt lone bug hus hia hI II the t church elI U re It ItI ben I l Ill 10 save 1111 8 IC mer lel from frIll II suffering NU In Iii 11 tin the I world wor to t to Too 1141 little lIt I Ic It hills has hUl III II 1 I I II Hie he 11 I tOOL root roL III 33 ITI Ing II In lit this world social lilt t ii II I thai thu t Is IH Ihn t I In ho BOH pel of 1 the of f Cod nul is and swiftly lug men mel git 11 Ui up In Ill II the United States I M In ill II th tIle in III 11 the tie legU legis 01 o tIle the th world and and ld Iho 1110 cause of or the Ihl prior 01 thy Ihl bet betterment lt of fit till the l unemployed II l I he sani sanitary loli I tary tl tIll housing houll of o It tile the pensions tiley tl milY 1011 be ill I tailed called by 11 the Ihl t he 1111 ami public Socialists labor what not 1101 hut hut tile are arc tin tIll true Irue they HIllY I SIre lIre 1111 as well W Il us 1111 ii I J am lilli tIe the gospel of ot the thu King Kingdom kin dom ot t nOlI A 8 WANT Ut Is In III till the world Ode OdeIs Is III a U of ot till the churches of ot nil all tb IlI this sinking Ut uC and the Iho discussion of or tur lur r common alms iii IllS liach 1 church ehu rt hi now huhl Its ILK own 0 35 u Al hI III I lit lie go over thu Ills I same nd wine discussed ut lit confer III if f 1 III 11 le I ISIS IS und all 1111 th Ih I hI oilier ether ore U 1111 II till the tI 1st in Ill ihu Ihl I lit nt litI I pt I I MIll soi l 1111 Ill il I i IS III II I NU l corner by lIy and II I pulpit Ii I uin ii II the I 1114 JIl lISt if or 1 f tho Iho I hour tile III I hi Ill 3 the Ill P of ot It 1 43 II Ii y und tIll the I lie Ito ri It I I I of it lIlt I woi Id How cr IVO IVI c could Gol i eL l to tho lIlO r tIC I nl of or bt the lh condition of human 11 if it the joined hinds In Ill unity unit of oC purpose with men of nr It M lence teachers awl and socIal ir ic 1 Instead of I the puny 1111 possible from a of Or 3 lit little I It Ittie tie tle we vI should have lI IVe a n i overwhelming rm a IL worlds worl united t ball me meThe The TIle Untied Ii States has till led leel In ill inan JUItO V mallen Here In Is l its most glorious op oi opportunity It Let Iet It Il lend In lit such n 8 move movement ment Prom what hat I know the In would be le very Iery strong ly I I not d n Is movement Ill 1 of o this 1111 kind html There Is 18 too much slit I ii at nl It I till the I lie moment I lIt against l me I have had 1 14 of I t 1 letters hett 3 rs und clippings clI 11 1 published attacks 11 the Ih 1 he Ull I tOll Silt SIll leI 1034 ton In 1 II numerous III to 10 t II specify Hut Hill It is not 1101 alone America I have hn ha cc 1 heard lIen rd fin Ill the lIe I whole world I have not lot CANT COMB 1 I have huc hud luul inan Invitations from the lIe Ih I Tinted I I tell Slates tes lint i annul ILl accept My 1 is 14 in lit My Ir oik Is Ii here her My 1 pUns for tor or tin Iho t Iii II I III If Il 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