| Show IN FORMAL CHARGE Rece lliter dyer holds the s or f the presidents office receiver dyer accompanied by his at attorney tormey P L williams called at the church office and made ii a demand for ill all the church records account books notes moneys stocke etc etc mr david McKenzi ewas was the first seen and wat that gentleman informed them that he had bad nothing belonging to the church in his charge the only books or records lie he had bad in his possession were the account books of the presidents office since the first of march in this year mr air mckenzie refused to surrender tin ahm ra saying they did not belong to tile tie church corporation but to the presidents office mr williams failed to see it in the same light 0 insisting that it was all the samland same and that lie must not riot only have those but all the books and papers that had accumulated since 1862 this demand was declined mr mckenzie saying that he had bad no desire to refuse re fusato to obey the order of fht court but lie he r really eally had nothing todo with them ile he would neither turn over the books nor fu fuse to do L 10 lo fco o but would try and fl fi id the attorney if mr williams TT mid bottle his wrath long enough lr williams did however appear to be able 0 lo 10 o do so and after making another an other demand for the books or a refusal to surrender them the visitors left but immediately out I 1 si K I 1 le ie met mr young the attorney when the demand was made upon him to surrender all the account I 1 bl moneys and everything ivery thing up alq tilso also the books hild had by mr mckenzie since march mr williams however was not very particular if he could yi yit mt t get the books his soul yearned if i r lie he would be satisfied with a refusal to td surrender them mr fr Young replied that he be would refuse nothing the order called tor that he said includes all stocks bonds books moneys cys etc belonging to the church corporation and so far as I 1 am concerned you will get them the court will not be resisted but the records of ef the church and the books of this office you you have bave no right to and we will refuse defuse to sur surrender rendar them the order AS applied by you yon is un unconstitutional constitutional but if the court compels us we will not resist we want to be heard on it however Ws we protest against you taking them we will not resist but you take them at your own risk mcwilliams mr williams suggested that his back backbone bonc had grown weary of waiting in 13 and again intimated a desire to capture all that the order called fo for r in response to mr dyers question as to whether thero there were any stocks be bonds ads or men money ey mr mckenzie again replied no sironey sir only the books kept since march jarnes james jack has bas always attended to the business personally for the church in the handling of the cash etc mr williams who did it in liis his absence mr mckenzie no nio one was authorized zed to act for him mr williams how long has jack been chief clerk mr mckenzie ever since mr ellerbeck left perhaps twenty years mr dyer have you received iny any moneys lately mr Uc mckenzie Henzie no the people life are not pay paying in in money to bo be seized by you mr young I 1 protest against you tal akai ii g U the books of this office mr Willi williams ains will wiil you deliver the books under vr protest otest mr young we will not dot deliver the books but wo we will no not t resist you yea can take lake the books of course coarse I 1 b it we will not deliver them W wo protest against you ou touching them mr williams william s where are the in oney money bonds stock etc sir mr toung I 1 do di not know if I 1 did you coull coula have those that is all I 1 tho the order calls for mr air williams where are the val babes on deposit mr mckeuzie you will have to see se mr jack I 1 do not know mr dyer haven you a church safe mr Br elenzie McKe ozie there are a number of sates safes here there are ara no notes in my hoods bands or other valuables r young if you take that safe cafe you do it at your peril mr Willi williams tims I 1 think wo we wil take that safa the question ii n will the court be balked because jmes james jack is away there has baa been an abuse of con confidence in asking ap us to wait a day or two until jack sh should come came lie be has not eyen been sent for mr young there has been no abuse of confidence mr jacks where bouts are now known at pasadena california he will be communicate elvith 1 with ho has never been served w with ith ceRi mr williams we think he has mr young A we did all we agreed to do and if you would wait a reasonable time you would woud lose nothing by it I 1 will advise mr jack to come mr williams he is the man that does the business clr the church and is bound as its representative by the iho courts order if he was sent far by vou he would come I 1 i mr young we have done as we vre agreed to and your statement that confidence has been abused is unfair and unjust ull ui s t mr williams illiams he has not been asked to come mr asked that he bo be sent ent for and now that we knoby where he is well send for him we will wid turn over all stocks money and bonds as the order calls for them but you take tb ahi books at your peril we wilt will resist tint to the bitter end in a legal way mr williams are there two church C lurch sa es mr mckelzie McKe ozle ozie I 1 do not know I 1 do not say there is ore there is one that is asod by mr jack alone that is the birge one it may be ba tho property rf cf the territory sir mr bonne yonne 0 remarked you ton will ia not ot lose go anything by waiting till mr jack gets home mr williams 1 I think you have been imposed upon by these people you represent ent mr young I 1 think mink not mr jack will rill be here before you want him mr williams 1 I think he is in ea contempt now mr young no hat ha is is not wh de was not here when the order was made m ade appointing a receiver mr oV illiams well he knew that such an order was coming mr McKen he did not as aa I 1 klow kaow from remarks made by him he had bad been contemplating the trip for it ii i i dot au to dod dodge M e anything he received no notice before ha be left mr dyer wh 3 is the next in antho authority tho rity higher to mr jack mr mckenzie the president of the church mr young I 1 feel certain the receiver would not be justified by the court in taking the books under protest I 1 woul i give up all books stocks or property as soon as it can be done but not tho the records nor the th books in the presidents edits office since march mr williams mr jack could be got here by men who be are now on the underground there is nobody here it seems to take any responsibility ibi lity the apostles of the church are parties to the suit they should ither either hand over these thiers or refuse to do so mr young abey say they have not got them M r jack cant give you the books since 1852 ile he dasent got them mr williams Willi ants they are arc some where or have been a destroyed ant ana we want them I 1 mr young you will genall get all you are arc entitled to at as far as I 1 pirn concerned we will n not bt resist the court mr williams ob I 1 dont doubt that sofa so far r as you aro are concerned but I 1 think these people jwill will not it looks to me that the marshal will vill have to come and take this property J mr young that safe wilL hot I 1 be moved till Mr jack codis comes if it is the church safe you can take it you will have to take the books under protest we will not surrender them volun ai mr williams well why dont you refuse mr young because not resist tho courts order A mr williams well surrender them mr young no I 1 will wili not noi yon h have aye no right to them ti under that order you understand exactly how the situation is and it is nat necessary to argue matters any nt jur further Mr Williams mcwilliams well there seems to be nobody here who has bas any thing to do with this property yi or who will answer one way or the other I 1 suppose the marshal must buet come and take possession of it the others seemed to be bb of the same mind and they left soon afterwards berwar ter wards ds however t the he marshal returned and assumed entire control of the office and all papers papers discharging all the clerks sive save mr mckenzie and mr rossitor ros Rossi tir who were allowed the privilege leke of desk room until the return of majack mr jack from the coast which will va ill afo bly di y aeri K ald aid |