Show MacDOUGALL'S SECOND REPLY TO HOLLENBECK Let me quote from my previous article and let me ke keep p on quoting the same thing for Cor the guidance of oC friend Hollenbeck Did I not outline cl clearly arly enough the question at issue I If somebody can tell us how to succeed in any other way in th the business world than by getting a control of or capital let us hear what it Is Mr Hollenbeck has admitted that the control of capital capital capital cap cap- ital is the only way to succeed in a big way in business but buthe buthe buthe he takes exception to my statement statement statement state state- ment that there are but three ways in which to get get get-a a control of of capital Mr Hollenbeck is strong on brains He assumes that Capital is is as it ought to be the tool of br brain in and brawn rawn and not the master If that were vere rue Socialists would be con- con tent ent But brain as well as brawn is s the servile tool of or Capital As a lawyer awyer he ought to know better than anyone else that brains are for sale very very cheap The lawyer hangs out ut his shingle to the world in general general genral gen- gen eral ral and to Capitalist in particular Brains Drains for tor Sale Lawyers are very slow low about espousing Socialism and theres there's a reason Mr Hollenbeck is proud brain for Cor his profession but buthe buthe butle he le knows very very well that few la lawyers ever ver acl achieve eve their Capitalistic hopes And he knows that lawyers use their brains rains to poor purpose He Heas has as used his brains to poor purpose in n this debate He charges that I Iam Iam Im am m mentally Inconsistent and contradict contradict contradict con con- mys myself lf by admitting that brains rains create wealth It is possible that Mr Hollenbeck does oes not know that to create wealth and nd to control wealth or capital are two wo separate and distinct affairs Brains and brawn by the use and control of capital create all wealth But the question is explicitly and clearly learly How to get a control of cap- cap ital tal Capitalism hires brain and brawn rawn to create wealth for the Capitalist Capitalist Cap- Cap and by that process wealth is s centering more and more in the hands ands of the few Socialism would have lave men of brain and brawn create wealth for themselves and not for Capitalistic listic masters And in order to o that end Socialism would make Capital a tool and easy of access to all 11 having ambition and ability without favoritism to any How to have access to and get geta a control of capital that is the qu question stion Mr Hollenbeck has touched touch- touch ed d gingerly the outer edges of my argument In his effort to fill space in n his last rambling paper he has excitedly raised a multitude of irrelevant irrelevant irrel- irrel evant vant questions which I shall take pains ains to point out later but he lie has wholly failed to attack my reply to tois his is supposed fourth method of getting getting get- get ting ing a control of capital namely Save your pennies Now Mr Hollenbeck's argument as s I gather It is the unproven assumption assumption as- as that a fifth method of getting getting get- get ting ing a control of oC capital is to create it t. t Simple isn't it But unfortunately unfortunate- unfortunate ly y untrue Does he not know that the he capitalist takes the cream of newly created wealth from the worker work- work er r mental and manual in many devious devious devious devi devi- ous ways Capital is always alwa's looking look look- ing ng for a rake-off rake a graft and gets it t in great quantities from farmer as well as from from worker wage-worker and salaried hireling Hr Hollenbeck's s 's theory is beautiful it is the practice practice tice ice of which the Socialists are working working work- work ing ng for but under Capitalism just like ike the Golden Rule it wont won't work That disposes of Mr Hollenbeck's last ast paper unless he lie wishes seriously seriously seriously seri seri- to join issue on some sure method of getting a control of or capi- capi tal al I think we are arc all devoutly hoping hoping hop- hop ing ng to be enlightened and to be shown hown the Wa way by many convincing proofs Jut But It will not do merely to assume that one may control wealth by creating cre It when it Is a matter of common knowledge that they hey who by brain and brawn cre cre- cre re aJ ate all wealth are robbed by mca which Mr Hollenbeck Hallenbeck ought to understand understand understand un un- of that which is their just reward I am waiting anxiously for Mr Hollenbeck to take up his burden burden burden bur bur- den of proof on the issue joined Meanwhile let us enumerate theother the theother theother other issues which Mr Hollenbeck has lias sought to Inject into this dis dis- He says he is defending the system Itself the Capitalistic system system tem tern I have not observed that he has defended it very seriously thus Ihus far however Then he lie announced the proposition which I suppose he lie intends likewise to defend that Socialism is a mere speculative theoretical plan to change the wl whole ole system and to turn the world over at a stroke the same as a cook turns over a flapjack Then he lie affirms the proposition jon ion that the rugged ups and downs of life lire in the grapple of competition under Capitalism is what makes a rea real giant of a man And finally he reiterates his former proposition that what we need is regulation Now if Mr Hollenbeck has given up the task of explaining t to us carefully carefully carefully care care- fully how to get a control of capital capital capital capi capi- tal I wish he would tie down to one or two of oC these other propositions he has injected into this debate I certainly would like to meet Mr Hollenbeck Hollenbeck on some definite proposition proposition proposition face to face so to speak Let him choose one at a time on wh which cl of the propositions he will jo join n issue and offer proof There is little use usein usein in flitting between them all and not touching any of them An appeal to prejudice will not suffice In conclusion I desire to refer reCe to toa a haphazard method of fingering my arguments Mr Hollenbeck quotes from my last article I would woul that they college graduates should be Captains of ol Industry as they deserve to be or find out the reason why Dirt Did hf- hf purposely leave out the not n iby hy not not not- But reaU really do doff don r. r Mr Hollenbeck misunderstand what I meant by my allusion to Captains Captains Captains Cap Cap- of Industry For his benefit then I I. will repeat what I said before and I hope he will get the point this time I am a Socialist and 1 I am ambitious as are all Socialists not only for myself bu but t for the race I would woul that our college graduates were ambitious without measure I would that they should be Captains of Industry as they deserve to be or find out the reason why not I would not have them content or any anyone one else co content tent to be mere wage slaves all their lives There is no uncertainty uncertainty uncertainty what this language means We Ve want our boys to succeed and if they fail fall under capitalism we want them to find out why they cant can't suc sue We Va dont don't wa want t college graduates Cites ates or any anyone one else to be content to tf be Lc mere wage-slaves wage all their lives We Ve want light or ora a vital subject ai i we v are waiting for Mr Hollenbe c to shed sued some radiance E. 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