| Show OAI l m TOO HIGH m mI I lI l LAKE Expert Engineer rk Mark es That Very Clear in Tes Testimony Given Today MULCTED PUBLIC IS THE Profit to the Operators Forced up Prices Who o Have HaYe From Time lime to Time Tune radar IIO Iho rut FU Co Jath JathA ne be A Gr GI dr uke to 10 n a Salt Sail III I It Afternoon cd rJ ourt Oun would Maud Ibo timo l to 10 In rr on mTh 11 Thurs rS at 1 JO 10 flock at nt was IM prevalent interest ot Of the is ot c tM I into the methods of ot the C coal coni Um lines and fl the 1 generall When Commis A Ir uty took his seat federal court coutt lima ims tile lbS Il en cn C with veIl IKa a U J The legal leal I 1 ton wi us ff ell H lt represented while at nt r tot tor Q tha Iho JUG Kio Grande Orande and Ore Oreine rt Une L ine the various coat coal com corn 1 ad d the United States Slates wera L I he e trend of ot the tes tJ 1 re lut if t f the time was bY Mark Hopkins who tee tea teaI tsI teero UP p w I I ton from ro the th standpoint of ot a coal I engineer While con COli coni tU i of his testimony was of ot the tho I order Ott that was rather dry dr for tOr Ct lit 4 he managed mana Ked to toe e flU all 1 along the Iho line lined ef d I J statements were lero very sery c the lie He told how holl time the Union c LI first fiut In the tho Utah t h field then Alle Rio Grande Grende and aud by the time tHea 12 d wait uz 1181 hipping coal Into Salt ait It Union Fabric had become tr t The Pacific Pacino I e It tie the rice face In and the Rio mo Riot mob b te t e follow It II had done dono this Ire At i tit Ih It and apparently r 4 tc 53 13 to 10 do from rein mere mero lie Ho SlId said the retail price priced rf Ii tt tl l n lee u too tO In Salt Lake LakeI Lakel I 9 l ol ot n was U r nt it t a i particularly particular I Then ho gave Jao tig ar to til hIs as Just Juet why wh Ml uld tram Castle Gate Oate Ih 1 I r exactly the samo mo as ast t gt IU alt the way from rota Wyo Wo yo lit ta or McCammon I U 1 to 10 o ais tt Ih t i VM Iu U an ai a agreements agreement for tor II 14 It t the longer longcr die ut TO o iL t v more moreTh Th H ja l it the average cost rost for or min mm tf II I and delivering It on ti thi t me e at I 8 l a ton lon This flits art tt e operator O a i profIt of ot un an a amino mimic ships from I A tri tr of If f coal a day it docs doeg tiu r i 1 touring to arrive arrhe at tho thu thuIn In t it mt I i tho the I sV 0 a halh a gool thing f P l ay i sj i roved a 1 very ery cry en cn J i r g r r lie did miot desire I tu r ne tie simply would L Ilat us U asked of ot him do de f f t Ie e counsel for or thus tho I r Cr rt LI lA f ho decidedly ob oh J IY hAbiting tho the pay pa us t i 10 the com mis W Mr r IV W u i s said edid tid ho doubted I i l to In 1 tl d etc nunsel Thomai Thorna aj Er t would lid it rhe rolls pay no ac t ere e rj ri I J Produced at al tho the thon t during 1 i I n h hour The ob oh 1 nil ti rd d s M Eo s that that the thc com corn I ma IB M a c r v Itself Mf whether or II Ae I al company had t on lu lid Tt n s 1 not forgetting kt st to Thomas Thomal v Hn don mahu ung ing testimony p 1 w O II it s Ir r raon j of o the tho L In lines quiring minim l tn r 1 0 id d ul ut ot of t the he coal 1 UI In n rw C u a ly I inter 1111 the e 1 II of J Farming I 1 11 la f nines News tailed eis Jj h hA and worn sworn r l 1 j w with h the Pi Ia IP MB IR i I ol lh l t WI at Jf H loM a tt tor stor story about f S Supt Black lack of bk 1 and r Up tot lots leh U laM a 11 4 Iclon 16 16 It I t F IJ and he hen oh t r j r I n D 0 O ull Clark or I 1 1 that he Ir f gone gave I tre itt moni which wu wa i the me 1 h t tt 11 7 i 1 at a B New el York he hal hail l Eit 1 1 att the t a thi he said Id 10 no ao he m er for cit h f longer owed ts 1 the se i r lp Mr hu t lark Clark and tl the t state hol Iio e r ai I ll above the 1 ab m j I Sa hg g PIece ot f ork s j kd U Judge 11 on th I Halll Itt c 1 Ue The tra Ind and nj at ata the I c aIth I ae a 1 partner r t k up a I I quarter 1 I lei eoal c 1 ture turned company It Oer ove un unI Ie said did didI I TIL TELLS TiE flIE At I tt at al I engi Rok te rin i L In i n the employ lal al t Iol company f iu M 11 ny WaR s sa It mu 1 10 the Jamo 01 old ho how howIt kt I p sal lon he 1 II In 14 flet lana t a l Mfr 7 r th Ih n to D I c Si i e n ra in e t le am 14 Ihl that th t he tk k tok dt e eM dId H K t 1 nf f lon on I l I he hedt ft I t i v i r rk J his hI I tn the t fe of ot r t k U in r 1 Th Laa j out the hl did rt n r the rest DUI Dug for I th Im m to t Iaru I II t II lan omel ames oM anul t t 4 had lv e I bun HI lie s Ihl ti I Durham nOI or ts Is dl r nen rm IO its the 1 In tr te nn on the rr tt j I TO QUIT t t a of 81 Oln I Lake kc l he tol ho how he U the bu CAl bt t ness neR nU here Ho JIe 10 said paid that for tor or years ors h I had ha been the sales ales agent nJ nt tor or he lie Pleas Pleasant ant tnt Valley Coal company Three f e lie storied started In business for tor himself LiSt gi le II or l hy by I the Union Pacific coal col company with i the assurances that lint ho ha h would get coal witness lne 1 IRId il that lu hl expended expanded lOO 20 on fixing up lp three 11 yards yard for tor the tIme storage of foal coal eoal Karly Jarl In II July lust last he lie received rl I intimation Ion tion of ot the thu storage tate lute Inte going Into ef effect e ette feet tte until Aug 16 Under this new IC jule Jl customers who 1 coal t at 1 WOM to got get let the tho benefit of or this Ihl rate rute At h he tie advertised In tn the local horiel loc l papers that he would sell Bell coal at u it 1 ton Ho 10 promptly received a c cl call ll hoot Local Sales Salts Agent Moore Morl of u tha Ihl him Union Pacific Coal company who told him him to take the thu advertisements out ut of the tho papers pallen He lie le refused He lie le watt told that It If ho he continued to advert l this hits pi 11 Ice the Central Coal Coke company com pan would ul o l cut Ul UI the price on op coal and keep It I down nil mill HI through the winter Several days day after that list said witness he found that hL hl supply of ot coal from the Union Un ton Coal com coin company cm pony pany l an had been cut off otT or and OI from ruin that day itay dB to this he had received no coal Cl from the company He lie Ic MW f It wa was wal useless to try t r to do business bl hM MI so 1 he ht had accordingly retired from flOI the coal col cost trade Witness asserted that lint the mine own owners oln ers emil eN wele eie responsible for tor the advance In Inthe Inthe Inthe the price In coal cOli In iii Bull Lake He lie Henl le I nl aho o stated that a n meeting was wan WiK held at which were present U octal ral Manager Williams of ot IiiI Utah J Fuel Vitel company Mr Ir Gridley of the Central Coal eel Cuke company and Mr Ir Quealy of or the he Kern Rem meter company At this meeting the price of ot coal was al decided dc upon uvon He lie lt claimed that the Union Pacific und and the Denver De er Rio Kin Ro Grande Granda Gran e also al o did their share In Jn the upholding of the Ih prie of oC fuel tuel fuelIn fuelIn In answer to further questions wit VI witness I ness flees said that the price was wa maintained at at 5 a ton until K E J H II 1 harriman came canto here when he hI understood Cur Gov GO GOI H I M r Wells Wels asked him why Ih his com corn company company pany pan forced the Utah Fuel company to advance the price of ot coal to corre rono correspond spond with the product from Wyoming Sir Mr Ir harrIman was wag reported as IS saying paying We do It I but promptly turned round and reduced tho the price notwithstanding notwithstanding standing Witness s thought that the Hie Utah Fuel uel company com pan coal cal cm in ln account of ot the tho proximity proximity to the time market should be bo cheaper than It Il now noi no It I Witness said paid he could coul pany not nol buy Lu coal from the Utah Fuel corn com company cm 1 t MORIUS Richard P Morris was wal the next nel to 10 be called and Ind sworn He Ife stated slated that six dealers to 10 alt all Intents and Ind purposes han haim handie die dle all ni the coal consumed In Salt Lake by retail customers Ills His Hs company compan had the exclusive he rIght might to 10 deal In Diamond rifle le coil coal cal In salt Lake He lie testified regarding the old coal pool pol of ot 10 or 12 1 years eaf ago when the lie Union Pacific Coal company compan received about SS S per cent of or money made through this combine and similar slices Ilces In the lie profits made among tho ho other members The Indictment of or the maine owners forming the association ion tion ton In 1596 broke up the combine Since that time line said witness there here has been en no 10 Lake similar pool 1001 or association In Salt Sal OSTE TALE TALK W v J 7 treasurer of ot the Citizen Coal company uny was las then called to tell what he lie knew kew about the ing of o the price prie of ot coal Witness said that all al he knew kne was 8 that he had re received N received a postal card ear from rom the Union Pacific at nt one time announcing a de sic decision d cislon reached to raise rise the tie price of ot coal und and Ild the thu tl price was WaK accordingly boomed Loo te MAKIS J 3 H II 1 Paulson outside ol the Superior mine mimic operating at M Hock Hok Springs SprIng stated staled that thur when he lie was 8 cm by b the Union Pacific Coal com om company compan oman pan pany an he had entered u upon on coal lands for or himself W It H Lee Iee the clerk of ot the tho company attended to 10 the details All 1 ll Paulson did was ns to sign his name to 10 the papers and ald ultimately tel transfer the lie valuable property to the coal company Lake other oilier witnesses remuneration remuneration er for or this Illegal act was wn 01 JIM IZO At this Juncture ot of the proceedings proceeding Ally Atty 1 said he believed they had hud established hl connection be between tween Iween tho the of ot the Union Pacific Coal company and the thc Union Pacific company the Superior Coal company or whatever names the tho Union Pacific coal col company goes by b and Its Itie I In iii II taking up UI the lands Ho lie thought they might aught get closer clo cr by I an ex cx examination e of ot George Gere L L Black Back They would do to so I If It ho he was waa M guaranteed Im Immunity immunity from criminal prosecution Mr Ir Prouty I dont dOIt think you OU should examine Mr Ir Jack At itt t this stage an nn adjournment was taken until 10 this morning moring YS s Mark Hopkins mining engineer of Salt Bait was the first witness called caled by b Counsel Coun el Marchand this thitu morning Mr Ir Hopkins raid paid he tie hI was as west cst In iii II as coal mine expert for tor D P 0 O Clark Clrk of ot the Union Ulion Pacific Coal company In II 1903 1 3 he hc opened up two to mines at Cum berland borland Wyo Wo In II right eight el ht months S f 00 was wal spent In development work When he lie left lef Cumberland IS I months later the output wait van 0 about 1000 0 ton tona a ft 1 day at nt a cost ost of ot about 80 SO o cents a I ton tOi placed on the tho cars al Under Ulder present oll eon con conditions rn witness Mid the tlC cot cost of ot mining minIn min lag ing In coal per Ier ton tOi nt at lt Cumberland would not exceed S SI 1 placed Illar on the ears cars Considerable time line was wan consumed In iii testimony referring to a 1 blanket rate rte applying to material used 11 In Iii construe ion tOI of the tho mine mini This rate asserted witness was vas wa fixed by b Mr Ir Clark The transportation of ot oth hoth both of ot the ito Union Pacific ansi and old the coal conI company COl n has had always said aid witness been on tho the baIs lt of one cent a 1 utile Witness stated that he opened up tho the mine now nol by II the ho Central Coal company compan The Hopkins yule le people he Mid sM had hail to 10 pay 11 Va a n rate rale cm eJ in their material which was tas 01 consider considerably considerably considerably ably higher than the th privilege en oyd Jod by the tho Union Coal Coti COI com coin company cr POnY pany It I was WI n a published tariff tall the tho Ih theother other lie be was ns sure cure was waa nol nolt At t the tho request of ot Counsel Marchand witness looked over owr n a list l t of o the he muteR mines abutting on the harriman HarIman system 1 tem to 10 together together gether jether with those thole had hail been bren opened Ipen 1 up and 1111 subsequently abandoned Then followed expert cx pert testimony regard regardIng log Ing the ha Ihl luc ul operation nf of n H R mine providing track facilities were BUm sufficient cleat c L Provided Provide transportation for tor laborers was vas 1 equal lual ami nuts both bIth large huge and small mal mines had thu Ihu same rame freight rates for tor their output witness fa Id that tho ho small blue owner could hold hoM his own on with the tha big 11 concerns concern nut But with ih orders order for tor coal meaning Intermittent working of oC the mine la Ta II bor lr was a hard to keep and coal cOlI diggers tere Ir constantly 1 moving on nn Each miner had to be 15 brought In from other oilier points amid transportation was 1 a I hM feature and ald an cut Into Inlo cronis If IC full rul Ut fares arel were pall paid aId SIGNED SIO AX GI E IT witness opened up tho ho Cum borlan mines he signed I I In I an agree agreement mont meat with wih the Ulon Uon Pacific whereby the people pole paid for proc of ot the cost of ot the branch road rOld front from tho ho mine mute to tho the main line this thin branch to be b the prop top erty erl of o the Union Pacific Coming down dot to the lie cost caRt ct of o min main lag Inc In cool coal CI witness itne In Answer to in a ques tion tImi ln b by u Atty Aty Elmer B f l Thomas said that thIo 1 Die 2 Tomu n wre r iad i M oil I 11 n I D pound ton they really had hIlI to dig dl about pounds and earned probably 75 Th 1 cents cent for t r that tint amount earne The Tt cost cot of ot putting a ton of oC coal a I on the ears cars tar from roni the Ihl to Co the Up II II pit 1 estimated won imas a II a ton tan j on fare two ho hoi I f A l i 1 i c M t COAL l IO TOO HIGH I IN SALT l T l LAKE I Continued from page one oneTh Olt I II Th Tho amount of o f coal al per pry mutt man per diem I mined d averaged h he laid ahi three I ton COAL TOO HIGH mal Coming Corning down town to 10 the retail price lII t of rf rt era Cal ecal I In answer to a direct question lon witness said ild the linen of or coal cl was wait wal to t o high He lie lc ral rl 6 d a n laugh by b aster Ing that ho he would nut not ut have said raid this a 1 few ft years Ill Car ago ao when he ho was 3 In the I buenos bU that lint n a noC I profit lie 1 I it of oC SO 61 cents a 3 ton was a mi I good sand goodlie Take rustle Castle Gate Ode coal fur for Ir In II I I Mance Mild II Commissioner that coal 01 MID cells HiI at nt the limP th mine mila at 12 2 It ItIn I ItIs In Is the to tall KII Luke Lithe on tn 11 our Ut IIII nf of o I 1 a ton tOll tOi cost 01 do sou OU think thil it Ii 1 Is II too tue to high t i ml l then lien wild 11 Castle utI fate at was nap a an nn mine and the tho cost COM cH nf ot j I wan I heavier hut but h hI thought ht the Utah Ulab Ku Foci l company avor r rIJt agad a ii 1 cost COt of S l J a ton for tor musing mining miling tho Its It I Taken all a I In all 11 with lh the freights hIJ AI a of lt the opinion tituS that the utica pile of ot cool coal cel was wag altogether aJ too tew high bl h Ir Ir Ii fait a I Lake lak lt kl WHAT liAT MAKK To the t cost t of ot coal eusi Cl to 10 the I retail eon con consumer sumer witness seki Mi the dealers paid id 1 23 a for Cor their ro CI coal l and rob soki It at I un S After going Into Inlo lilt details dell be asserted a that thaI the th CM coal could I be handled on Ui o a margin of or 1 I Witness asserted A that Ihal while hl the th Pacific only supplied 35 25 3 per percent pr percent cent of ot the coal cl eoa In thi th 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