Show S SENATOR MEMORY P POOR OR Knew a Rambunctious Man Up The River but Forgot His Name BUSINESS SEEMED FAMILIAR Iz Gov florid or of California To Go and ami Clear up Sontu Sollie Mutters hatters i hew York Nov 0 1 With the end of th the morning session eelon today Senator Armstrongs committee on n Insurance in finished a n works weeks service which has hns not nol been collated sed since Ince the Investigation was wan Inaugurated The have been tho the moet most Important Import wit ant Including tho the big guns suns In the world as well ns us the Insurance business In the tho week Janus James H n was wa examined and an l made charges charged l against K E 11 II Hn and nM former Conner low JO Odell who successively and dented denied Mr Ir Hydes Mr Jr Hyde HIt being recalled hist his testimony t Then Senator M 1 was us h tri and when tilt I f salon opened today it was wan expected I beoo the tha day 11 was over oer Senator platt would b IJ be culled lie Ile Is stunted to testily us to the collection of ot con to political funds liy 1 Y the Insurance In companies Mr stir Odell having hi testified that tona Hena lor Platt colleted collected all such money mone up to last year y al It H Is la now no expected he the senator l will to heard henri early curly carl next wo w work k possibly on Oil Tuesday when the fe will he lit resumed renamed T Samuel B S McCurdy I L of oC the Equitable 1 anti lint not rental related to th the l s ol of the tho Mutual Life Lle aid Bala tic he h hid had charge chullo of at the vouchers for forr legal service From Irom him was gleaned a n story II to I y of trouble In Cantor flu nia in 1897 which the Insurance COllI coin of that state stale demanded un an investigation Thousands of at dollars were iere spent by h the tho In thin this miter matter ns as recounted by b Mr Ir McCurdy I and he ho the expenditure on the tho I ground that It would 1 have cost coat the Equitable about shout r bud no defense been trade made hence The TIle expenditure for counsel Ho lie seem d to think tho the der de dc demands mands oC or the California commission commissioners ers erH were exorbitant Senator Depew Dei e was called to give Ih any ony Information he might possess I O fefe as ns to toa toa a 0 number of oC vouchers for tor legal services service but Ms lils knowledge was vas rather limited and arid many of 0 the expenditures and sign signers ers era of oC these vouchers he hill had never lIever of ot otOno Ono Ore voucher to John Johll A t Nichols for or legal services WI accompanied by a n litter letter to S B i inter atol Depo referring to our friend who comes c mos around once a 11 year Hor and your rambunctious friend up lip the river The senator said Hald he hI knew Nichols had Ind been retained at nt dif dlf frent times by b the Equitable but ho lie lid did not know knot In what connection Mr 11 he Hald said was once quarantine commissioner anti and used to bo be active In I While WitHe Mr rr was testifying I Senator S was seas ae recalled mod and naked asked about vouchers of John A 1 Nichols Ichols for LIDO 1000 for tor legal le 1 services to 10 I the thc fuit able Senator Depew Delle could throw no I light on min the matter I ond the fact that thal Ichols Nichols was retained by b the time Equit Equitable 1 able uhle Mr Ir Hughes counsel nor for the commit committee committe tee te read rand an extract from a letter which was Va written by b Nichols to tho tha senator In which the following appeared That this is III to remind you that some fome one olla gets round at lit this time lima of the year cur curDo Do you rerun recall asked a Mr Ir Hughes hes who ho this some sonic one e Is 1 J 1 do not recall his name said sold Sen Senator ator at or Depew Denew Here Mr Ir Ihm Hushes hes again read rend from the letter Our friend up the river rier lead has been beets very err rambunctious of oC late anti and wants Willits to know yon oft 01 know Mr Ir Hughes asked If that referred to I the tho mm same a man manI I believe so but I ilo do not recall hU his nome name mild flUid du d the senator Hn Un added that the man was not nut connected with the th legislature and ho hI thought he ho had noth nothing not ing In to do 10 with nIth politics lit but was wal an nn in In Insurance durance flurance man moan Did you knew kIWI Thorns Thomas D Rusted Hunted 1 Mr Ir Hughes Hushes I did dill very en well lie JIe Is ls now not dead deadlie lie He wax was the son of lien Uen and ha hl was wad retained retailed by hy tho thin Equitable up to the time of his death said paid the scan sena senator tor The letters concerning which Mr Cr Hughes R Ras questioned 1 I Senator Depo D were as all follows follow New York Dec 19 11 lS G ly Dear Deper My I friend who usually U gets around at lit this time line oC or the your year has hn written ten me ate several letters to which I Ihn hove hn not replied Ho II now writes wilted me mc that lie he will bo bt here her Monday or 01 Tues Tars Tuesday day and desires mo tic to help him na as us UI usual ual What I roil o Faithfully 1 yours our JOHN A NICHOLS New ew York Dec I 1 Dear Senator Our friend up UI the river has lun been very er rambunctious of oC lute late and wants to know you ou know Dont cans caN a It hang hane etc etc As tI soon as liS you ou can conveniently day a with will you kindly do Clo so tin Wishing you OU nil all the good things thing of or life lIe In this tills holiday season ceason I am urn as uI ever yours JOHN A NICHOLS The Th senator said all d r that 1 he lie dill did not know tow fn what service tho the letters related but that thai he ho knew at lit pie h time he received thou them and that he hl turned turnell them over er to Mr Ir Alexander or Mr Hyde BYlle of ot the qu 1 II blo society WANTS TO TESTIFY TI San Francisco Nov o 17 Former Oos 00 James Jumes H fI Budd said tonight In refer reference ence once to the testimony of Samuel S Me 1 Curdy before beCore the Insurance Investigation thou tion at New Nev tv York From rem the statements made mad by b Mr Ir the presumption might ease that I had gone to New cw York trope still holding hold In time the of ot governor I did not noi go east until 1900 1500 or 1901 1001 which win was VII a II couple of or years after aler my m term of had h ll I 1 went to New ew York IU as asan IUan an attorney connected with an un Investigation Button gation OL insurance matters This In Inquiry led Imd been In progress to reP nor for many litany years and arose partly through an et ef effort fort rort to straighten legal Insurance tan ales Hies In California There Thero was wa no se secrecy secrecy secrecy crecy about my trip trl The newspaper dwelt upon It rather ra ller fully ful nt It the time time The Investigation Included several com cont companies and one ono In particular p Which one OliO was asked That I do oho not feel reel at liberty to say sa saDid Did the compensation for Cor Or your ser services vices Vicea as ns attorney come conic from the In companies 1 i I understood BO tiO replied Mr Budd Have you any objection to statin the amount I 1 have All that I will say any I is II that the amount aas ns not enough When asked for a definite statement of or 0 f the nature of ef the Investigation all 0 n h was making Mr Cr Dudd sail said ani that that he be did not nol feel privileged to do s a n x as it con concerned other persons than himself lf he felt obligated to 10 consult with wilh sunn t persons before giving the Information When asked If he had ever eer lizard heard of oC money being paid to t State Insurance Commissioner either directly or Indirectly Mr 11 Budd answered In ln the e em negative e eam am now Y lo to some Nevada m theses go i tho i to t 0 u It U I I In December T It If tho few Yorks York ork Commission then then m my v testimony I 1 wm will be bc very try glad glat to give It a ItACI ATTY ACI TALKS iSia San eland Nov 0 AV W H 11 said last nIght in reference to the given glen yesterday Ye by S Samuel i 1 85 S McCurdy at lit the Insurance Investigation In In New York It 11 Is 19 true 6 that th t J I represent ent tho the Mu MuiS Iu iS I r Life LICo 8 here as a 1 1 legal lesal Bal advisor or but i that r I was a paid pala Is ls ridiculous and false faille i I happened Pen d to be In New ew York at the th time referred to In the Nc 1 v vi York MX My Iy son was teas wa danger i III In m a hospital at nt Yonkers That was fIB the reason for Cor m my being belS east t at nt that t time me It M Is I true truo that 1 met Coy Gov Go Dudd Budd In New cv York at ut that time We Wo discussed Insurance matters with the Mutual Life people Our conference had reference to the attitude of the tho yi then thon n California Insurance commissioner loner A K Ii I Clunie towards the tho life Insurance companies You Tout see was VI Insisting upon join loth life lite and lire Insurance companies living up to the letter lotter of or the law lie He was a It little bit ugly In that he made much of oC trivial and technical matters mutters We e had one dispute with him When hen the thc late Into A D Forbes was general for fOI the tho Mutual Life IlCe hero found that come me of ot the men menen menen menOn en On his bond were wore dead lie He Insisted that trat t lt If Forbes Forb s bond was not renewed with additional bondsmen hol that the Mu Mutual lu tool Life Lire In California might suffer stiffer There wits was 1111 nothing to this contention of or However his re request quest guest was WI r u as ns to perfecting J Forbes bond and It was complied compiled I On the whoM t 1 l should say lIa I was the thC lust first state Insurance commis commissioner who tried to 10 make his mean something od his antagonistic altitude towards the tho companies made mad them moro more punctual lun and careful about observing the time requirements of or the th Call Cali California forma fornia laws |