Show a TE DISCUSSES U CANAL Every Phase Even to Change of Route Completely Gone Over CONDITIONS UNSATISFACTORY Sn sy Teller Scott TUN inn a Il I of or St nr nrC once C of or W Dec U The four tour hours In III discussing d l the canal t bill bil I when ItOH It LI Cit the bill HUH under consideration There Th re were we 11 Mime by b teH I Teller Scott coll I and flu tor I IIII and IL nil they the t It ey were followed by u a L general debute In which nil all CH of ot the were exploited Including the of o salaries the control ot of the Panama railroad and the necessity for or general legislation ti on fl the tU subject Mr fr Allison chairman of o the commit ten tt on appropriations expressed the that should hould take up ul the question of ot if In lit connection lIh Ith other en mil legislation He Ire II that th of o the rail ridi Nae should be he made maele Ihl of or o Ion DISSATISFACTION Mf Ie sri r Teller leller Scott ox ex i eel with the tilt condi condition tion In III Panama but hul nil all Indicated In a II determination to support the supply measures necessary to 10 secure cure the Iho con cuti construction of ur the th canal ell 1111 I us 1111 tit ot un Mr Ir Teller advocated lI n 1 SIM iea ea i 11 canal Mr Ir Scott spoke HIlIk In III support of ot the San Illus route IUt us ilK preferable to 11 nil 1111 others othen mul tuiti Mr Ir Morgan Mel the opinion that before the Iii canal I Is h completed coni tell another II II Ot ho r canal en nu I will wIllbe lie lio to do the ic re A bill hili regulating the Is Ia su Hire of or bonds tot rot tho mid them on the same borne basin basIM as in other uther lonh of ot t government was without debate During Durin the th day lay Mr II made a i 1 frim the un on litter Inter Interstate state stale commerce the thc opinion opinIon opinIon ion that the committee would present presenta o a report within a n reasonable thou limo Mr Ir d and til obtained th titus consent of lit the to unlIke make n a abat er r bat lial report front from the committee on In III Interstate Interstate commerce concerning the pro lIra i Kren ot Ut the tho committee of o the thu railroad rate rata question tIn lie He said Mill that the committee had found QuIll It Im In I to report a n bill hili hI 10 days Ihl after the convenIng of or as UK directed i by 17 I tho Iho resolution orderIng tho Inquiry We Ve 0 can not report today lie he suld but I am nm Justified ju In III that It IH Is J tho the belief bellet of ot the members member that later Inter III tel the th 1 commute will be bo to present n nj j measure lie He added that thal the com coin committee had been In session from April to 10 June and anIl again since Nov No 21 last end 1111 1 Willi gIving nil alt the time limo possible to tu the question rlue CANAL QUESTION UP Tin Titu emergency canal appropriation Mil 1111 1 was then thel taken up After Arter the tho amendment made by LI y the committee on appropriations to the house lull bill hail had teen been l ell to Mi Mr 11 Teller discussed ed matters In lit general He Ili did not lIot notH H that the canal would woul bo be the tho I milieus HH IlA friends expected Inferring to 10 the of o th tall raIl aliI I Toad Mr lr Ir Teller that thuit In 15 I NIU there thero would h l as 18 many mote more moreil ri il linen n iu there now me unit and they th would accommodate tho the business nf of o the InterIor Ho lie lId did not nott me in to t charge that thero hall hail been beell 1 In III the tho management of at the canal canali i work 1011 but hut h he did tild believe that tha t the work I iut been filtered upon without due dUI appreciation of ot Its Importance these 1115 we wc e are liable to U make the same mistake that thit the French made that lent sent Do re Lesions Lesseps I tu to his grove grno In disgrace dl grce mid and that with without without out grafting or stealing n lE INVESTIGATE Mr Ir expressed thu opinion I that the senate should Investigate the of ot Mr Nr Wallaces sever severance once liner of o his hIli connection with tho canal annl I hut hilt Mr ir II Teller replied that Mr needed no on Quoting Hec faCts Tafts testimony te be hI fore tori the committee on Ott appropriations Mr Ir Teller ruller said that the thc attitude of ot the administration III Is that thai the president has ha tho Ih right the law II la to construct n IL lork lock chant canal without further consultation con with I this Ihl I It Is Is III true tru e he fOaM fald Con COli Congress gress KIlM nun linK doni many foolish thIngs In Inthe the post past 40 years jears hut but I do not bo bI lIeo It has haR ever 11 done 50 so o foolish a 1 thing an It I hns lia done In putting tuttIng out of ot Its Is own hands hondR the control of ot this Important work worl worllie lie He thought hl that H and not the tho executive IH lii to blame for tor this ac tuc lion tion and II attributed It to tn the till demand of th public p for 0 undue haste In the he matter To 10 this Ibis demand ho lie also al o attrib attributed 11 the Ihl expense which has hos so 80 o far at lit attended tended 11 the work ork on the canal Mr Teller concluded with a 1 plea Pica for tor fora torII a II wider wilier and deeper canal than thull that do ulo upon by hy the canal commission He lie a preference for tor a sealevel ennui ranal admitting that Its coit would rot be Jess less than but I contending that such a n canal would Wall III bettor better meet the demands of or the world PANAMA Mr 11 expressed the opinion that thata a II mistake had lund been In selecting the Panama route anti and made a speech advocating the San an thus Bias route roule We Ve are aro now confronted with sith Just such sod n a I situation as us I have lucid held would be he encountered c In III connection with the th Panama route Wo We 0 have hae expended mil tall millions units lions of or dollars and are no nearer to the Ihl completion of o the tite enterprise thin than Ih n when tiu stalls stales utah cs took control of or It HP HI lf contended that the canal could not be constructed tuu a lock hock canal cUMI with Ill In hess lesi than 10 to years nor ng ns n a canal In to serve generation Mr Ir Scott tott cott concluded with the state statement ment ha h would not oppose the Ibie up nh lutIon for rill the canal ranil but buthe he lie expressed ux S NI thu I opinion I If the e In lit ii recommended by b hint him three yearn rear cirs ago on had been bee II made the tha Bun Ban luau Ulas route would hute ben taun chosen unit what ho II termed the complication would hive have ha 1 been b en avoided a At tho tIm of lit Mr Aldrich the senate an 1111 a extend extendIng Ing In to III ti Incidental the commit committees tees tes provision limiting expenditures tu to ap I Ions The Thie he of or the tho lei leito Ie be I Ito to 10 u II dl oll of o thu th way 1 of at o the com coot lolI on to Mr cul culberson ul berson 11 11 cd attention to Sec TaCt rafts to 10 the fleet under the terms o 0 nt thu th net let the commie doll alon liin IlIIn authority to contract for the con of o the tho entail and Mr Al AI the opinion that thi has nt nc v power to II enter Into contracts contract hut bul that could not be made mado except Pt as III are mn Ir made Home some Inquiries re reo the for tor such uch con COli contract contracts tract tracts and anil an expired s ed the opinion that under tinder the circumstances we might it II some come time flail find ourselves In the clouds dous or In the air In the clouds or In the air all asked a Mr Ir AllIson oll More likely In III the mud mild InIst Mr Tillman TIliman for tor I think wo WI ore lire more mom likely to 10 be stuck there Who Is to tn Judge of at the thc wisdom of ot such luch contracts lie he asked The president responded the laura Iowa Suppose he made a I mistake then w I would bi his required to pay the expense Mr urged and Mr Allison re replied reo plied complacently OlVer Very er likely like MORGAN TAKES TARI s A HANI HA D DIr Mr Ir Morgan took look up 1111 the thread of II Mr III cot ts remarks In favor of o tint tiun Ih San lion Ilia I I has route i e a x ng till thu opinion that In view of or the divided opinion ot lit the engineers on the Panama route rOUle It would be bus wise to order an nil Immediate of Ie f the tue San SUII Ulna lilas route 1 I woul J welcome It I as nil u n happy halI solution lit Ite said antI and added that hut the tho location of nC tin th route Is i un an n Ideal otto one One Olle of o the great greatest rel relst est Eat st Hi lb Its III favor laor ha hI said Is III the fact that there Is In no Span Spanish SpanIsh ish lab population at either end enl of o the tho lIne lino and that the country Unversed traversed Is un unpopulated populated In this connection he dig dis discussed cussed the HIP presidents declaration fa fit II arable to 10 the Panama canal anti and saId raid This In Is I taking time by the forelock In Ina Inn Ina a n very cr ery strenuous WilY I do not nol how others may feel teel when told tolI by b tin Iho president that the canal must b bl built buill at a 1 certain specified place ace fluid and not at rut any other hut but for or myself I 1 dont feet feel comfortable Mi Morgan said that he ho hid had been i misquoted as ci having said salil that there had been heen graft In connection with tite th management of ot he lie canal and anI quoted what he sold If It he lie added any graft has occurred It will wilt be he found In connection with tIlli the tho management lement of o the Panama railroad Speaking of ot the Ibe Spooner Mor Ilor Morgan gan atu the opinion that proper properly ly Iy administered It Is a n wiSe and patri patriotic otic otlo measure but he hI added that thai Its op operation operation had halt been ll by the de lip OPPOSItIOn of ot the presIdent He Hc criticised crl l the present bill ns its a being a It because It doc not reduce the thue salaries given OR nil the result of o tho thu Ih president Ire liberality generosity and a 1111 NEED mED TWO TO CANALS Mr Ir Morgan expressed ell the opinion that by hy the tIme tie the Panama canal M 11 1 completed the bu will he be so H great that another Isthmian canal laMI will be lai h necessary nece lal and the tho contended that no tu 1 canal should he be I In that vl h 1 daIly lInH unless 1 under the control of o the thi States Even If It he Ito Mild u It I KOV eminent for tor the tIle territory ut itt either end or both ends of or the tho proposed etl canol canh such uch as IS Nicaragua for tor Instance should shaul l undertake to build a 11 canal this would be he derelict If It I It II dill did not Hot take It In hit charge chuRe and control It as de uhe demanded by lW the great military and coin COlli met Interests of ot the tho United States This he hl said guild wits was his reason reison for tor ex himself to tl perpetuate President compact for tor a canal across Nicaragua ru gun In III 1 ii that compact he sa I ii i ithe the thue of o that great man Intuit will 1111 be I preserved mid In III It his hili greatness will grow groll and grow grOI until w we shall see Me re 11 revealed I Ilis full splendor of or his huls great character lie He poke s po e of the Isthmian rental canal an IIA anthe the best regulator regula lor of o Ill I h II rates rate and anti he sold that the th Panama road would prove Pro most mall I valuable In that ic re It I t will prove the best hest bargain over ever secured lie He concluded with the announce announcement ment of ot Intention to 10 vote for tor the bill H EXORBITANT I 1 Mr Ir lUron lIal oll called attention to the tho failure fa II a re of or the th a committee coat tt ci Oil on appropriations a u a to tn report on an amendment foi fot to I the tho reduction ot of o salaries paid by b the com corn commission mission and nd asked It IC that fart Indicated ed that the lon approves them Without for or a II reply hi he ex cx expressed pressed pre M the thu opinion that the salaries salaried were exorbitant nod and out of ot all 1111 proportion lion tion to the salaries paid to 10 other gov government eminent es Mr Allison said that hint the original law had hll given the president authority to dx salaried salaries Mr Morgan suggested an un Increase of lr if ifo o 0 per lIeI rent cent nl over oer Washington salaries and anil Mr Ir tiny Clay declared that many elnis engaged on the tho Isthmus l are pahl more than Ihan ICO per cent more titan than for far lIr service In III the Philippines Mr Ir Allison admitted that on Its lis face It looked locket in nl If I the Ihl salaries were uvera erl too high but said salt It t WOK Was to 10 sa Mil say from the facts before the senate Just what should hould be done tione However this thila was waR an OH emergency appropriation and he had hod not supposed that the control tee was P UI expected d to go into Inlo all the details In this connection No o com corn can cuin arrange these salaries In Iii 1 four tour or the fie th days he said laid Mr r little suggested an un amendment I might be moved requiring rl that hereof herent ter tOr estimates of ot alt all canal salaries f h be submitted by the secretary ns III Is re required reo in other branches branched of or tho the pub nub nubile public lIe ile service Resuming Mr Allison ule ted that Iha 1 the canal committee should take up the subject ct of ot salaries on 00 tho the canal in connection with other canal zone lone legislation Ho lie sUggest e the wisdom wJ elm of o controlling he the Panama Mr tr lr Allison salI salt the government owned nil alt the sto k of ur tho the railroad Mr III Morgan asked how It happened that thu Mr Ir Cromwell It is a n director of ot the t I h hu railroad nih Mr I sold mid there me tire 13 thuit are lire not owned hy by the lulled t Suites but that thit government h his s m in n contract for tel the tho transfer of o the Ih stock Mr Ir asked what became of or the tho money paid pil by the tue United Statu In tt to tl thin tho Panama railroad for or services 0 UI Mr I r Hale replied tint that It II reverted back huck to Il the national treasury He lie sold said the thu road roid Is Ia I run I uj n ns a s nn an ii n Independent I t or orga lion n nil mil u Oil ail led that 1 this t It Is H to 10 him ii Ira as n use IIII le I less n He lit agreed with Mr Ir Allison that thit there be hI b legislation lel to tu Mini the t hi e question best lout TI 4 WANTS SA ItI Mr III ti r n called cal for tor II n rep ri on 01 I the Ihl Panama I 1 in railroad rut Ii Intimating lit I I rig th a t Ihn t It Is l too Ion much secrecy secret about It hi and us U leg III that there was 11 if U I toss K in ill such Kuch a u condition He lit the Ih I hi III in introduction t lout of u a I methods tho Into I ii to the i he methods Hi tt boils of ot en ito I it ifa I re rig thu tho control coot roi of o f ti t hu r ia Il rai 1 Mr Ir Allison ill quoted IY st it the expendi ture of or the till 1 en 1111 it the canal hut but In iii referring III to 10 Unit but I statement spoKe of ur It II as liS having li ng made nt lit Cincinnati At St SI Louis corrected Mr lr Toia Iora l her er He lie I did mike make an address In Itt Ohio I believe responded Mr Allison 11 d to 10 Mr III ui r Foraker and yet et so 50 loud an as n to be heard till all over Oer the lito Th The ie re mark a n burst of o laughter and tutu Mr Ir to the hilarity by b saying Tint flUt was wag RY a II case of ot before after It ft er taking Mr 11 l r Morgan ii he attention a t tent lett to In the IIII t hui fact t that t t Mr III l r Cromwell stel I IH Is n IL ii I of ot tire the New Neur Pun Pa it mm hulL canal ca no I corn ha it as ti II S vi ell us nil fi it ii I rector ctol of o the he i Panama I ii ii ii t Hall Rad ha I I io id company pa fly and ii Ii Mi ut II u I I I suit if It he hit h knew what he lie sets gets 1 ls for tor hi hl his s In this 1 Mr it r Allison replied rellIe that In lie did ell ii ui II not know knots but said ho thought till tae matter should shou Id be 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