Show n r I r R RI Rt w v I p y Thu r l n ae n 1 II t w Wu w t I at I S 1 dl Out l nt j i r ul MUM 1111 nun ii i ilMO 11 t All Ir Iril w d S P t 1111 Sam s 1 Uncle U ne ii t I e ri m S 0 s il t f ervice F I I And ami I Its 1111 Per IH lul IIII or Saving hanks Ihuk ill ul Claw ov o 1 i ark n ral Tv I l Il conS COlI conSal hurl I air d I I I al Payne I of Iulo O Ma ill Cl k ki l i J Postmaster n t G li Payne t 9 Chats About His I his Department G and Ind i Nor New i ull Sh Schemes ns For POr the of Ul Hie lIR h Mails 1 lIsl A Hiu Ihu r lol A Word IV Abut About h 1 1 c cI cars and Ihu Ca Cai nos o i I N WM I ot II I ill illi i ee R b l 7 Hl J 1 i r I of the Site Deseret r Newt b j Frank Fait i 1 1 a k m I D 0 CI I had n a along long chat dial last t night with l 10 Payne M at jut his residence r r a m III 1 t he old charles hurles Sumner mall lion now a It pert part of ot the tho Arl Arlington hotel within u a 1 clones throw I of ot tho the My iY Y vl Vii vie ViiI I It was by Ii nn appointment minis blade at tho the department und and the tho conver COnor f nation covered a 1 wide wale of ot postal I and pc personal r nal matters matter matterI 4 I I 1 lira drat I naked asked tho the to tell mo me something about and hIs family asking whether ho he came mine of ot the Iho rich Cleveland Cl Parnell of ot whom the late i Henry Honry B 11 Payne ami and Oliver H IL the Standard Oil millionaire e were prominent members or from the tha poor pooi Payne Paynes to whom the author of vt Home I M I Sweet Sued Home lie He replied My family may any have come from th the I saUlo stem as N thole I Ioas Y you our 1 r t ale MR RII a r t the tho poor noar Janet I and lint the tha l rich rk h but bud It If ao 0 the Iho r dates date tar fur i hack bark 1 I um nun one of ot the Paynes l a My l came eI to III 1 at aboul iu in 1628 on Oil the third ship otter after the They were among tho the first settlers of ot lint hut they afterward proved moved farther Inland I J tf fp you were pre torn bores nt at Yes Yee my people moved there i the war between the Iho colonists colonist and the tha I 1 Indians Indiana 1 known nil IU m King Phillip w war wal walH r rIt It H look took bout about a 1116 years before x fore our Declaration oC of Independence won was t when It was wale over ovel A Il grant of ot land was mode made to tho thu who took start part In I It and my family got trot a 1 I TO ro I e i How lIow did you happen happell to 10 BO ao weed v 1St at atI 1 t I naked liked nakeda a The Tho Paynes seem em to have been Im lm 2 hued with the Ihl lh emigrating spirit wild said Mr Some of ot us early moved to 10 the Holland purchase und and others later to 10 the Western 1 J lived I In until I wae twenty and then went want to to Iu take tuko n 1 position as nn Mil a n und and bookkeeper lit in lita ina I a n wholesale dry store lit ore What t kind of bookkeeper bool were you yon general generalI 11 I think I T must have been beNI fairly good was the Iho reply I have a natu natural ral talent for far mathematics and keeping accounts Will wan envy easy for tOI mo 1 I know kilo that Hun when hen wo sea took look stork I could keep keel my II footings no sa that I 1 could give the totals within ton ten or minutes after the thelast last Item worn Wor culled called out This wee was rather I 1 have havo met mil Jut few tell who could do It AS RAILWAY MAGNATE What did you do after your book hook bookKeeping Keeping experience 7 I T naked asked Almost AI moot everything II replied the postmaster general Much Muth of or my lilY work has been along the line of or railways end ami i I railway In III 1892 I wa W woe S Sone one of or the tho receivers vera of or the Northern IA Pacific ami a nd had tn to du with th the und and develop development ment of ot the tha electric street railway of Milwaukee I f am nun of ot my Iny IIII euc In III that line lino Ten fell or twelve yenta yen yeul in II ago niO we had bud a n dozen different street car In III Milwaukee e Hume v itt run tun by boric and othern by electricity electric I It Ity The Ch c roads roat l had been built lar largely ely to Iu t aid AM aidIn In suburban development and aliI they war sere poorly WY I wat w UI as mad ma le t tat of ot ono one Oil of a o thorn them and Improved It Lute late on I became interested In III the others and planned to 10 the whole I got Kot other man lII ll to 10 join me ami vu nu Nought the Ih roads monde unit und no DO reorganized them ti nn that we lIuo huva now nar un one ulle e o of or f the thu best beat trolley troll y of or the I 1 w was n l of or that nt nl the tha time I was matte made general Rell You were wert ut at onu one time president of at atthe the American Street Hallway association tion wore were you not notYe Ye Yes YllI I wa wae but bp t I 1 em not now I save gave up 1111 active nellve of ot rill all kind kinds Wiles when I 1 h hero ro n r CAU c alt PA HISS r S Tills C l How about our cur street treet earn cars general will wll the Iho over come cOllie when whan we will hava area 1 I hop e riot not WU t th the r reply ply Cheep Cheap Ch p fare aie aIre nn not r for 01 the Ih r ual i of ot the t car or of ot tho the people If It you yon hive hav low lo fares you yuu meet them by a u or fir by zones nen us ne lu In Ulas llla uw OW mil and other Kurop European Hii You must lit one OliO for or n mi pertain i 4 for a mi little more and so ell on un The rhe romill lu Is II that the working mOil men to nave faret toes t thi their lr work The became the flue suburbs lire are not lIot built bath up ull and the tho working man liven In the heart of or the tho city Instead of In hr tho the roux coun country try 11 It In lR latter better to n a 6 II rent cent nt rate rato per r ride and to allow the people to 11 vi out This rile III U nn nil Important con lOI consideration a n and one olle which conduces to III he the making of or American zone zene A BUSINESS SH VIEW OF 01 POSTAl ItS You hive have been beon n 1 man limn manhandling handling large affairs general IH iN the Iho hUll to teenage manage an tie a n bust bud Irons Institution You it Is III I The chief Unable trouble IH Iii ii you cannot manage It at nil you can a n private enterprise The tho are acv selected for or you you and ind you cannot dismiss them except by b making charges and thorn them before what II might be bo called tho the department court There Theiu are many leave laws which hamper your youl Individual action The moment you try Iry to do da you ou find fill 11 there Is In n II law It rod and the result IH IN there are all nil of ot clogs clow In the th o w WilY way ay of or tees tour How about the postal Jo tul service U Ie It Ita ita a II good one OliO onele You le with the I MY mentioned and I do hOt not know but bul that they thc are Rood good limita limitations tiona on III the whole Ono One feat fea feature turn ture w which prevents tho the system bo be n M MH e l H II r 11 1 1 j jI I jj IY L j 1 tt Nr Y Ys l j r y T y I T Y YI I 01 s T I II t T I rs S 1 T Y YI J I I H II HH H iH H HH I rl Jt Hl I II 1 IH J 1 J A NH From Pro 1 III IIII lilt Photograph for fur use Iho No OIA s sW WW N M I WI J fi W 5 W N JIt J lug IlK m III ii a II institution la III the Ihu number of or r We ho havo Home Motile clerks ells who have huv been the Iho department for tor years and who 1 hll have 1110 given good Rood Ne Iee They have hit grown Krown old and In tin un ordinary they would have to KM Kit g Hero Heio the process fI of ot removal Is such Much that they tire lie allowed lo to sill AN HONEST POSTAL low How about the department do you think It II worse woree or better than tho the others of or the executive n lOr I 1 think the in s J aN 1111 hon honest est now 1101 an as any liny III In ht the till United States Inte public or private replied re Oen Payne Tho Tile fraud have hel vo purged purRed II it Wo We hod BO 50 or CO Jo at 11 work tork for far eight mouths months examining In lil lillI tn to lI evory of ot the tho W Ve have prosecuted every li regularity and have havo already seven eleven of or them Indicted fItl neti to 10 the Ihl penitentiary PC II II I hll Many other are under Indictment trial triad indeed t dont bellevo tnt lInt Any government department In III Inthis this thIN or nr other country lure hUll ever been more moro Investigated than the tit th n department The Tha result la le that it it iii I now in lit n a I thoroughly healthy condition oun OUR POSTAl dive Olve mo me some Home Idea Idel of ot tile the business of o the tho department dopart font 1 I taked It in Ic hone one of ot the Iho If It not tho the biggest JU lie H nt or the kind upon drat earth replied Postmaster It heN han hems been that the tho aggregate number of 01 papers which annually goes gooe through the of 01 the world Is COO About pieces go through our mull mill no to o that we do 10 about olie of or the of or orthe the tho world We WI have now II t 1 O tome and mill our postal routes ere aro miles 11 In III length It If you ou wont nil over 1111 tit all the lire 1111 tuned N you ou would have to 10 irvel nR nM H far an aA n SO 20 0 times around the tho weld and nAd the tho annual travel over ovel them themIs h Is almost The ser eer service vice 10 In Id now In lit round more than a 1 a year vear and we wo 0 take In III almost that mulch much this till your year GOOD lOOD TIM TIMEt EH SHOWN BY POSTAL I I m How Hot about the postal receipts do th they y thin tho 1110 lire are idler bettor op our 0 The Tho p business IK III one olla of the tho of It our ow hll tin It II Dhow that the I M of 01 thin tide lu III enormously en I 1 nod r that tint 1 It Imri he d 1 within lulin the 1 ant lu 10 yearn y rn Ill u 1 jO the gmaR of or the Ihu 1111 Cult Itu t a wore lor aru only oily 1111 ami and andIn iu In 1003 laOJ llio thu a o alone over ovel tho the ro re rea of or 1802 1002 wis wu more than 1 Id II 1831 1804 the eve and I till 1111 s yom year Y ear theY will s be he l t e more moro thin th 11 jut ro 1 That Is fe B u II wonderful noted Do Vo you jou think our nur bu lne a ala la IN butter from flout year your to year Yell Yen In the tho were about S nod mid tilt the wn wail over Our 11 In Lt 1302 1902 the tho deficit had on Ill n to 10 and in ill 1503 1903 I It was waR Wit only A largo lingo part of or the tho lust lual do de hilt was tens reused by II tho the greit addi additional e pOllI of or th Ih now flew rural which will still in us II this thin year Were Wom ere H not for fur that the tho would now bo bu Bl g 1 II the free delivery ti rl succeed Tasked r I inked d Yes indeed was the reply NII Fuss Kaw Iu FussI coplo I know I how hate ho great a n success It II IB le Vc 1 have hl now mure morn rural disc l J It I e S routes m I n a 1 dally dellY until mall delivery to In or to 10 more mine than Intimating g our P population ll at nl vo wu t lire nr e now non no sorting tIng one om i of ot nil all tho the s In III tho it United t ell States Stat the n rural rum I delivery PAY HOMO Hn u DAY VAY Will that service ever over pity pay Il Its Ile own expenses I 1 It unity may pay pas but hilt It will wall be bl far fur In inthe tho the future It does dols pay tiny already hi III the tho Increase of ot bushiest throughout he the country mid and oleo In tho the growth of lit the thu In III those hose localities and to those localities We Ve that In III settled runt I II where there IH le IHno no such uch delivery IY the receipts are rowinA at nl tho the rate of 01 shout about 2 per nor rent per annum II n Where tho the rural de delivery delivery livery Ihry line Una been Juel Introduced they are aro annually growing at nt the rate of ot 10 IU per pal tent that the circular 1101 other othe small mall moll sent Bent along alons such ouch mutes IH Ix very vory great Some Fame of or the chief chlof busl bud Institutions of ot the country get hate of ot the people along the routes and RIel cir clr circularize etherize them Will the Ihl day come collie when every man manin In the tho United will get got his ills letter letters at 1 t his hili own home hone homeI I dont donl know Homo ono parts part of ot our country are arc very tery sparsely Inhabited I 1 should not like to 10 predict Wo we now flats have the tho star lar routes Men ten deliver moil mail to la all nil lift th homes along their route roule and 1111 thereby give gl mall to more than families They Thoy oleo also collect mull from front families and told take It to tho the post That costs tho the government nothIng noth nothing ing In ai cc the Iho men are paid paid no more for tor this additional NEW N W THINGS IN It UNCLE SAMS SAWS MAILS A what new things are lire you doing for forthe forthe or the people Wo arc aro Improving the service In every overy way WilY possible and our chief work worl n this your year has hns been beun done lIle for tor Vow Now 01 York The mall Is 11 greatly loll thol ii iv J u II grant creat dual II III of time Is III consumed lit in getting U it bunt tho Iho to 10 the lice railway Wo Vo Vu have hlo arranged to tl b u t IO 1 I over tha tho a tI ut ul the new nets Pennsylvania station and pled alo ul lit the lute New Nets w York Central station TIBBS JlII two t 10 places played will he lie connected by hy tubes with the tho other of nl ices They will be ao so that the tho malU will stI Il be bc sorted lu III I h thorn and dropped 1 through dillies rho t r s or by elevators light t down to 10 tho the drum doom of lit the tho tats tars these two depots will still take taku out DO OO per pel percent cult cent of ot the tho mall mull of ot New Naw York fork and the tho now new arrangements ii when completed 01 ii will considerable tune limo III In the thu for forwarding VI warding of u the tho malls Then ve o 0 lire are improving the tho ocean service and and our foreign postal mont menu tho thu postmaster general con calm tinned Wo We now new have mull moll clerk and In the th large lorge Just as lie asIn In the thc cars Care Tho The clerks begin to soil eort the tho mall for tor different parts Perle aunt and towns of the th United States us rIS soon noon as fI they the leave v Europe I and when the Iho ships arrive It If It I shipped oft off by I rail without This Thle about h b day tin on every foreign n letter leller WI Va V are also nillo In ln the he number of or ships which car carry carr the Ihl mails Wo II a now four tour regular malts nalis across S the Atlantic ench way uny every week sleek and wo we w hope hOllo to 10 soon lIOon rend Fend and cm l lecell e mails n dally dull We 11 want wul t tto to tu cut cult down doun the tha foreign to th 1111 the to 2 cents a n letter and 1111 we that the Ihl revenues will to La 0 under this reduction than nt nl the t b rate na as now 1101 SWINGS HANKS fI AND OI FH How JIow about aboul postal banks banke We WI e have their same day lav fur for forthe the smaller towns lawn mind and villages where when there are no nu tuch euch banking facilities t I think they thc would b lI by good for or such I have havu tried trl 11 to 10 lave have thorn thane In III Into tutu Porto Rico but bUI so co far rill III H nun hall not adopted adapted my lilY Hii singes Wo We o have no nil batiks banks In III Porto except f at jut I San Juan and Ponce Tho Jho people understand nothing about sat KIV Ings Inge Institutions I It II and It seems to mo rile that postal savings banks do much to 10 Inculcate thrift and thereby better the Idle condition of ot the tho Island IM or orto to then line has hn almost t a n million people am and although the tho majority lira era very ery poor ninny many ore are well stroll to do ilo POSTAL AND TALE PHONES Will the po department ll over ever control our telegraphs and telephones 7 I am not nol n a prophet nor 1101 the sun son of ur a 1 prophet said Raid the postmaster general and so I cannot answer that list question I believe however that Ihal such each things under tinder a n like ours are arc tar far hotter bolter oft off 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