Show r 2 CHICAGO IN 1899 t Cartor Harrison Says Is Has Two Million Now ow and Will Havo E Million In In jo Canal and What ChIcago Wants ot of Undo Tho Doodlers I and this tho Piety and Purity of the Du Dt Bois Tells How He and the tho theOther 0 Other thoI Silver C Came mo to Party itt I 1890 1800 Fairy Stories From Idaho Fortunes In Fruit and Land Whore Gold Floats on the Water LN I 4 n Il n f n lI n II n r n ii n i t Inn I II ri 11 II by Frank 0 Carpen tor ter terP P Idaho Dec 10 In iut I lma had with two ot of the he lending leading youth the weaL est One was TaB Carter I 1 the tho mayor of Chicago Ole lb other U former or mer Senator Fred T PU DU lIol bli or of Idl Idelso O I met Carter Carler Harrison In the office In the ell city hull hall of Time The dRy wile was rainy and Chi Chic c o was u dirty I tramped through h dir dirty ty Into n a dirty building and nOli ra taken to a third or fourth floor In a dirty little elevator and thence to the office which wait Willi clean not nol present i ly h The rhe Wo was when I arrived and as I waited the thO of ChIcago past oil nil gray haIred and almost nil gray ward beard warded bearded ed looked down upon me from Cram the wall wail IS In a 1 short time lime the tho mayor entered no Ito did not seem eom halt the age of any and ond the blurt bluff ort off offhand man mah upon the tho wall I hand hana way In which Ito he shook was i typical ot of Chicago M My first question or of course related to the city how lIow I Chicago Does It still grow ro and ho many people peaple have hae you OU now You flu 01 waye 36 ark otic those questions or of a Chicago man It gIes him a chance chanco to soy at the tho start what you OU know ho ha is hi i bound to say ray before you OU get through I and It lIa saves time lime The mayor maor was by byno byno no means backward in answering lIe He put his thumbs In the or of his vest g his hili cigar hIs teeth and loaned back a as he replied We hae no now population But Dut Mr Maor I mean just how howman man many people have you OU In reality what would nn an actual house to house count show forth Ohl Oh It If you ou wish to be exact I SO say we have about We art are growing so fast tast that we have gIven up counting the odd hundred thousands What is hi percentage o growth Wo have grown about per cent within the past ten tell years ears ThIs Is time thc rite rate at whIch we Ire are growing crowIng now liDo Do you ou think that rate will swill von con lInus 1 hR have no doubt or of It We will have In 1910 In we 0 m have I 1 really believe we ON are as AI big its liS New eV York now But Dut that municIpality hall Iman swollen itself by taking In all outdoors Chicago will soon be 00 the biggest city of oC thIs hem hernia Is phere and eventually the biggest city In the world WHAT CHICAGO WANTS WATS OF UNCLE SAM S1 ore Ire the tho sources of growth groth 1 I 1 asked It Is time the center conter ot of the tho bIggest coun country I Ito try to on the glo globe replied Mayor horn Harrl i son It hlll millions of people tribu tar tory to It anti and it Il Is so ns as lr t water and land transportation that It IIII ilI always grow Take our drainage canal title Ihl some day will be n a part ot of ota ofa a shIp ennal to the MIssissippi river It has hils already cost us and we will give gle It to Uncle Sam if IC ho he will put pUI puta pUIa a little tittle money on It and deo deepen n It so 80 soa a to make It n a shIp canal from the lakO to the What do you ou mean by n a little mane money I asked Oh million or perhaps ten mil mu million lion dollar replIed the young oun mayor maor mayoras as though the tums sums vero mere baga bibs tolle It would Ila pay the government to give us thirty million dollars or fifty million dollars for tor that purpose When that canal Is built we shall Ill be un an ocean port pott shIps of oC anti eighteen feet teet will come right ht from the St sen up through the Gulf ot of MexIco and the to Chicago o We have at 01 ready made mado our canal Cort forty miles long and feet Ceet d deep p It will take only a little dredgIng and some somo work to do the tho balance nut But those thol 1 fire are bl big sums Mr Ir Mayor said paid I I Ilou bl whether It will pay lay payPay Pay saId the mayor It would pay enormous enormously ns as n a commercial proposition lion tion It would reduce trel freight ht rates all allover over oer the west The rhe railroads would have hao to come down and It would tc i a vast at outlet for or our products to the sel sea It would be of great rent value alue from n a mill tory tary standpoint At R It is III now b by our treaties with Fn England land we can only have Ime War vessel on the great at lakes nt at n a time lime England Is restricted In a sImIlar way a but In the event of war It could send BOnd its ships up the St Law Lawrence Lawrence rence arid the Weiland canal and lInd our lake citIes would he be at theIr mere mercy With our canal we 0 could brIng our boats bonIs up the MississIppi and into Lako nn DOES POES NOT LIKE TIlE THE We are now at peace with England MId ad there Is a groot groat deal or of gushing o over er our alliance the mayor went on The people sa say that blood Is thIcker thin than water and they apprehend that no trouble ran can come orne with That Is nil all foolIshness We Ve Bro are of a blood than the thel l English Wo We are not We are arc n a mixed race made up tip or of the cream o of the nations of oC Europe and composed ot of Americans and all sorts of including Germans Scan n And others who have no friendshIp with England I belIeve belloe that the English will he be our frIends Just lIS as long as It pays them to be so O I am amnot amnot not In favor or of enta entangling alliances In lesCe or war I thing Uncle Sam should stand alone lie Is able to we tae tare care of anti and he should stick eUck to Ills his field which Is thIs hemi hemisphere sphere THE PhILIPPINES Th Then n you OU do not believe In our now new possessIons In AsIatic No I dont thInk we want vant any property so far Cir aWa away na al the Philippines I believe that AmericA Is big enough for tor all our en It Is b by far ar the best part or of the earths eartha surface and we should be wIth It ItA ItA A A to tM the continued Harrison I cant see wh why we C want Allt them The file population the they have now is III thicker than that or of IllinoIs and It will cost its liS enormously to hold thom them I see no reason why Vh the Filipinos should not be allowed to rule them themselves selves Admiral Dewey says the they are superior to the Cubans and we propose to let then them govern themselves Will twill the philippine cu much ot of n a figure In the coming cam Cain Y Fl I think It will be one OM of the issues I mean menn the question ot of Imperialism The Tho Democratic party vilI be against It WHAT IT IS TO liE BE MAYOR Ito Itow about c candidates 7 You hlL have bebo mentioned as n a possible nomInee for Cor the presidency J am 31 not a candidate In an any sense of f the Mayor 11 harrison 0 bon bonI I dont want aD any cube under hC heaven 1 I except lb one I nm am now nOT In You lou have a 11 hIgh Ides Idea or of tIme mayor maor ship laid eald I Indeed I have replied Mr Harrisn HarrIson r I consider ot of holds this the fourth or the third place ot of honor In the UnIte United States Int com comes the second the tho Speaker or of the nOUN house ot of lives lt st Washington third Ih the gover governor nor or of New York and fourth the maor of oC ISo I 1 nm ant not quite lure sure but that the layor mayor ot of Chicago should rank than the governor ot of New Nework NewYork York ork J hal lisa more to do le lie has hasIor more power and cn can more What hit I Is the ot of your OUr cU city I asked Chiago Chicago Is 18 In as goo good a condItion as asIn In any city In the lii Unie United States was the theNO NO CHANCE FOR FOn HS low how about the tho and the cou 1 The are now the underdogs In our municipal fight This The majority I asa them anti the they cnn can do nothing Our they p politics are ar anywhere he here at ate now al as pure lS as What does oes It cst cost you to run Chlea Chico so go Mr Ir Mayor said I reply About a year was te the Eighteen mIlon million dollars Is n a mIllion aM C a hal half a month Mr Mayor that Is fitly thousand dollars a da day tha that thata I a god good del deel to spend on one OM town ton tonNo No Not for such a town replied Mayor I It should be more CITY GOVERNMENT T AND TIlE THE CAR CAn What do you think ot of the new ideas government should Chicago own Is its own on Ilet street clr car lne lines I think It should hould said Raid Mayor liar Har rIsen It should own the street or car te the electric light and gas as plant and d also the telephone I I could se see some someway WiY way for tor tIme the cl city to get hold or of them how Ilow about ownIng time tho newspapers rs Some ot of the EUrope m citie cIties such l as Dresden own such thIngs No not that soll sold the mayor hair I would Jt not like to see e our newspaper newspapers controlled b by the city I Iwas was at the head of af 1 a newspaper once myself and I think that municipal ownership of at the p pets 1 Would uld be o a timing thing YOU YOUNG G MES m AND AD CHICAGO I 1 BM that most of your OUr businesses here ore are going Into truss trusts Mr Mnyo MOyer saId I 1 WI Will thIs not crowd out Id ual effort What are the chances for fot young men In I 1 think the chano Ct are o as Jod good hero a as anywhere although the trust trusts do militate against the IndIvidual I dont believe In trusts I 1 think they thoy ar are bad for tor time the leoplE anti and that have to be restricted In some way a but that thatis I Is too big n a question to discuss of off j w aboul Chicago real estate I It Is now In goo good condition said Mayor HarrIson lem scent to be rising rIlIng In ni all parts of the tho el city Real estate comes lP up last you now THE REPUBLICANS nOI TED In coming coining from Denver Dener through Idaho I hn have traveled on the sleeper over Oer time the UnIon wih with former Senator Fred T P Dubois Dubols Since leaving this Senate Mr Ir Dubols Dubo ha has become 1 a farmer le lie has n a ranh ranch neAr tot toot where he raIses alfalfa hay lIay and fino catte cattle Ho He was just returning from Omaha where he had b been n mar marketing some or of his stok stock Mr Ir Dubos It wi wIll be remembered was ns one ot of the silver Republicans wh who headed b by Senator Teler Teller lel left time the St SI Luis Louts con convention which nomInated McKinley During the conversation I asked him to 10 tell me the story of that movement lie He replied TIme The holt bolt ot of the tho silver Republicans from the party had Is its orIgIn several years before that convention We aU all dele delegates otes to the presidential conven lon lion at MInneapolis and we there die to n a certain eten extent the tho financial o of the The platform was n a combination ot of and a and was sas satisfactory to us We soon found however that the Re party was not standIng by Is Its platform and we then decided that without we ve could have what We want wanted Id ed for tor sliver we would not vote vole for or the Dingle bi bill This wa was along about 1 93 We stuck together and defeated the bi bill This excited the tho whole country and showed that the tho silver lver men were determine determined to have hare n a IY say In legislation It WAi was about time that we be beon begrin grin on to regular conferences conference to lS as to what we shoUld to do cn con S Senator Dubol he lIsle at C both parties hel hold ie ular meet In ings 8 In m my committee rm room tt at the Sen Senate ute ate and we discussed and laid out our plan or of action You see sunny or of the tha silver thought their Illy iari would vole rote for tor the tho gold standard We finally that th the or of both partes would break Iwa away from rom the th respective partes parties and form orm a new pOt pam t ty In ease neither the parties o adopted 1 a Ilm bimetallic talc plank In Ia its plat phIl phIlorm platform form orm This was our position when hien we I left lett the St St Luis Louis convention We hind haJ the same Idol when we wont to Chica Chicago go o we had a silver tenS nd It was our Idea that we should combine there thore wih with the silver men of the Democratic mo party part and perhaps he have 1 41 convention of our own am nominate Teller a as PresIdent wih Ut Its In this flan Phan were Senator Daniel of VirgInia lr lnla Senator Jones or of Blackburn rif or I Kentucky and John Mc McLean lc I Lean n ot of Ohio We for or Teler Teller and were for the tho proper time to stam stampede pede the tho convention to Bryan pe made lila his and carried every everything err thing L by storm alarm We saw then that thal I it would b be helter to to 0 tr fur Bryan The platform whIch woe was adopted Ihl ver very well and 0 supported Bryan ThIs was vas not our plan however for tor we expected to ta nominate Teler Suppo Suppose Teller hal hind been e nominated senator what would have been the l lie would have hao been cl to I think said Senator Dubols BO SOMETHING G ABOUT IO IDAHO The conversation hero here went from poll 1 tics to farming And I asked Senator DuboIs ho how the limo Carmer farmers of hIs Stab were getting on lie He replied The They ore are making mono money I kno know I p mAn who has 3 20 acres o rf alfalfa anti ho wIll get eel a thousand tons ort elY of It this year Title ThIs wi will not net him at al lent least three thousand dollars At the present irice of la and the price wi will t so rl rise later Iter on that hlf his profs profits sill 1 be live e eth th u nd dollars In all probability Mor hi 16 nothing so nl aloe u a alfalfa You plant your crop once and the stuff grows right along alone year rear otter after year Nr Mi 1 you oU 1110 hare to do Is to cut It stack I it and soil I It I If I had 1 a thou thousand and nr acres of oC alfalfa I should have al all the InC Income that I could spend It ought to bring me tn in It cn thou Mid anti dolat dollars I ti ar TIl This man who hAi has the arm has hal Invested only six thousand and lila hIs Income income fi am I you ou wi will Cr roan thre three to five thousand dollars this year er aou oe I we have havo i ti great rent grazing co coUntry We liars tens ot of thou thousands of shep sheep which On can tOd teci out of oC dool doors on the plains In Inthe the summer but which hero to have have f hl hay In the tho This gives u plen plenty ty o o market tor or feed and ires the alfalfa o armor has I a sute thins thing ut of It n IL do donot doOs not Ct colt hIm mote mate thou than a dolar dollar I mm ton tonto t to 11 harvest and stack hil himi hay hart and t ho can 91 sell I It Cour our dollars dollar n a top too 11 in inthe the stack nut where nr are farms ot of this Ihla kind Sentor Dubols J I asked 1 There Thera lre are lots ot of them In the River was the tbs replY cal calm ho o gotten thee there tn r abut about 20 an MN acre IncludIng the tho perpetual water right for Cor the lands landA are oro irrigated you OU know There limero Is also SIO seine land which Is not taken up but not Mt ver very much We hat have any of oC good land In Idaho and we could hart harta a crat groat deal deol snore more I if the government would make appropriations for or Irrl a aton ton tion purposes MONEY I IN FRUIT III It Is not known Sen Liter Dubols Dubol Idaho Is fast Cast be Coining Olt one of the chief states ot of the tho UnIon We are now Ship S ping apples anti and pears to Chi ChiCago calO Cago Our 1 ut sell there when the tho euter eastern apples le are rotting under the tho trel trees They bl are much larger anti and finer than tho those In the tho tat east We Wa have ci al alread read ready at least 30 acres ot of orchards i and about of thIs Is devoted to We te are also raising railing devote a great greatman man prunes Wo We have as fine prunes as are arp anywhere Th The fruit business Is very |