Show r ING PICTURE rOVES COSTLY SAYS In- In York Sportsman orts a ams ms Committee Friends Dempsey Carpentier brie Bunked Him Himi fie i to Get By in Met Met- p lis So He Concluded i. i Put on t ons Whenever Possible t mx ASHINGTON March 20 Tex 20 Tex fard ard New York fight promoter before the Daugherty committee today to regarding his Interest in of the Dempsey Dempsey-Carpen- films I e told of knowing Joe roe York r representative of Ed- Ed 1 Id dIB B. B McLean Washington pub- pub ver erand and Fred C. C Quimby film iu lucer er who bave have been connect- connect I byj testimony with the picture 1 lit Ickard eald said he ie could not reaber reaber reaber re- re aber meeting Jess resl Smith dead ad dof of Attorney General Daugh- Daugh I but ut had bad known ten r r 1 I ALS LS WITH unia ia opened negotiations with I d eald said about June 15 p for showing the films outi out- out i New Jersey Many details the previous accounts of the 11 were wee corroborated by Rick Rick- including exhibition of the Jures res at McL McLeans McLean's ans an's home bome here also said Bald there was a man 1 ed edt ed Martin Interested In n the S f p. Ickard ekard told of the con contract tract by 1 1 chI Mum and Martin who I edI were to get 60 BO per cent centI I he W. W A. A Orrs Orr's 20 4 S cent Rickard said was t to td e efrom el from the Interest of Martin contract dated June rune 30 f was wal on the stationery of the Enquirer LAW PASSED eona contract produced by byard r card ard rd provided for tor tora a a. 20 pe per j share to Orr and 15 P pec i cent to and Martin Ickard denied that at the start tart 1 Jh exhibitions the plan con- con plated initial showing of the I 1 soldiers ex-soldiers and then have aye ave small fines imposed on ont its t to permit further told me he thought he a law passed to dis dispute dis- dis ute te the films Rickard ex- ex ned peta t a a law passed Senator 4 eler eeler exclaimed You know not did not and yet you agreed by V tract to give him 50 60 per cent from the pictures Tes res JES s' s sAS AS EXPENSES rd told of knowing Alfred Altred IrIon lawyer lawer Identified In the ure ire deal and also Identified of ot Mr Daugherty and New York ois were the I states tates where he was fined card kard said adding that Quimby end ended d to sales for tor exhibition 5 ther- ther states I. I I Ickard d submitted a statement pro from the pictures Ing ring that fines were were Included expenses of promotion Rick- Rick said ho paid percentages of ot profits to Orr and andUn andUn andi i Un tin while knowing the pictures e shipped In violation of ot Ilaw TRACT ACT ON CUTS Ickard produced a contract dat- dat uno uno 30 between himself L I W W. Martin artin providing the Continued on page pageS 8 I AfTER PAYING FINE HOMIER SEEKS REVENGE Continued from page 1 1 latter were to receive 50 60 per cent ot t the e gross receipts If Ir a law were pass legalize Interstate showing i of t the film This contract Rickard I explained was replaced b because cause they delivering the goods I When did first take the 1 picture to Washington asked 1 pro mote Senator Wheeler Was It tt io to o promote promote pro pro- mote legislation No he said sald it was r for r a party Did you ou make a practise of ot let- let letI I Ung ting these out to parties 9 7 I did to soldiers soldiers soldiers-in in hospit hospitals ls and other places Senator Wheeler asked if fr that sort of or showing waS was not not part ot of the scheme by which the exhibitors were arrested arrested and fined Rickard said he did id not know of ot that After paying his fine for showing the tho pictures before soldiers on Staten island Rickard said he was wa advised by his la law lawyer jer er that he could go ahead anywhere in New York he here e the gross receipts Rickard said were and the expenses Wh Why should you give up 15 per percent percent percent cent to luma l and Martin and 20 per cent to Orr asked Senator Senat r Wheeler heeler You got bunked didn't you jou ou Yes I was he answered ered and Martin told him Rickard Rickard Rickard Rick Rick- ard said that they Gould could get a bill through In two weeks to legalize the film exhibitions But Rickard denied he was as told had some influence with Ith the attorney general After Atter we got by in New York we hi I s so easy y we thought we e could exhibit in of other er states said Rickard Senator Wheeler asked if the th expenses In in Chicago were vere er very large Quimby said the they were there or so paid to attorneys attorneys' I 1 dont don't see how there was that tha much the much the sale there was for 25 25 Rickard said Quimby sal said there was a 81 loss there of ot BUNKED RICKARD SAYS I 1 s see you got in California Califor- Califor nia Senator Wheeler heeler said You kne knew there had been n no legislation passed to allow these thes I pictures to be shown interstate Senator Wheeler resumed and ant notwithstanding that you jou ou wen went ahead snipping these all over th the country country and and gave Orr 20 per cen cent of the net net luma l 15 per cent an and Martin 15 IB per per c cent nt Z Yes Senator Wheeler read from th the record that 82 had been spen spent In New York on the film expense fines and all Why should you ou give gi up 15 pe per percent percent cent to Jap and these oth oth- Wheeler demanded Senator ers ers ers' I r got bunked ed that's all MONEY FOR NO WORK y second contract Yet you jou ou made a with these men men Yes we Yes we got afraid o of f t the censorship censorship censorship cen cen- board in New York g gOrr got of Orr to work on it and ands got past the board in August 1921 You dont don't want to tell us that with your our experience you fell for their story that these men men were going to get a law passed in a afew afew afew few da days s' s suggested Senator Whee Wheeler er They talked as if they could get through in two weeks He lie add added d that Orr and Martin got their money without doing an anything thing He denied Quimby Quimby Quimby Quim Quim- by told him that had influence influenCe In Influence in- in fluence in in Washington or that they had influence with the attorney attorney attorney ney general An auditors auditor's statement was presented presented presented pre pre- showing that the profits outside of ot New York totaled 34 I This This' c contradicted Quimby's statement that the profits were 1 BOAT D UE C CED rD Senator Jones Republican Washington Washington Wash Wash- ington asked if It Rickard got Orr to to fix the New York censorship board To To Influence It Id like to tell the amounts I actually given 1 and Martin Rickard added The entire profits profits were outside of Jersey Quimby went to Germany and burned up the books Orr got about 1 and Martin Martin Martin Mar Mar- tin I You are the same same Rickard who said in New York you'd bet a I million dollars they did not get Daugherty Senator Wheeler re remarked remarked re- re J marked make million I I I didn't any dollar remarK remark Ri Rickard c k a rd s said aid remarK remark Ri Rickard c k a rd s said aid DUMMY PLUMMY ATTORNEYS 1 I S Senator i ator Wheeler Wheeler Wheeler- read a a. record of gross receipts from the picture In New York Expenses l I Included 2500 as attorney fees to to I Alfred S S. S Urion a man named I I Dickerson got 2500 and Sanborn Senator Wheeler proceeded These all marked as attorney fees he commented Sanborn Isn't an ari attorney norIs noris nor norIs Is Dickerson Rickard returned These were ere men who took the films tUms to other states You entered Into an agreement June Jine 30 for transportation of or these films In violation of ot the la law 4 No sir It was an evidence of good faith falth But no law was passed No sir Why did you Insist that Orr be put In In Because I thought these men weren't doing any good INDICTMENT THREATENED Yet you were willing milling to give them 30 per cent and you went ent ahead and shipped them them and and youve you've never ne been Indicted for this conspiracy IM I'M r 1 ent I haven't-I J was Tas threatened with it Rickard asserted he had not met Attorney General Daugherty How did Urion the attorney generals general's friend come to be your attorney In this matter He wasn't t- t except In Nebraska br or Minnesota Senator Wheeler cited the 2500 2600 payment payment to Urion In New York Quimby was the man who made all ail the arrangements said Rickard Dont you know the reasons why your expenses were so big was be because because be- be cause he Quimby was paying out a lot to fix things I 1 dont don't know that said Rick Rick- ard ard rd Quimby paid out a lot of or money he didn't account for but I 1 I think it was from one pocket to another ACCOUNTING WITHHELD Yes and you paid out to Orr 20 per cent yourself to fix things things' I No to pass censorship up in In New v York I Rickard said lid he had never been been been I I able able to get a final accounting from rom Quimby or or details of the large arge expenses s in New York I Who Vho broached this matter of a aa I a 50 per cent division in the fir first t t. t place place Senator Jones wanted to know lwow enow I and Martin said Rickard Rick Rick- ard They thought they could get this law passed and that it it would be worth something he thought was a very influential fellow with a lot of friends in the senate And all the showing of power I and influence l made to you was his statement he he knew a few I I senators senators' asked Chairman Brook Brook- hartHe hart lart Brook I I He said he knew some replied Rickard But yOU jou got by with the showIng showing shows shows' show show- I Ing s' s persisted Senator Wheeler Wo We made the government some I money with the 10 cent per amusement amusement amusement amuse amuse- ment tax tax remarked Rickard |