Show CLASH COMES COMS AS EXPECTED Secretary Wilson Appears Be Before Before Before fore the Congressional Com Committee and Denies Statement Made by Gifford Pinchot Pinch at HISTORY OF THE LETTER TO SENATOR DOLLIVER I j I Head of the Agricultural De Department DeI I Did Not Under Understand Understand I stand the Purpose Pu and In 10 Intent Intent tent of Precious Document PRESIDENT TAFTS LETTER Washington March 1 The ex cx expected clash between Gifford Gilford Pinchot I I and Secretary of Agriculture Wilson over the disputed question as to toI I whether the secretary had given the I former forester permission to write to Senator Dolliver the letter which re resulted I i suIted in Mr dismissal I came today before the chot investigating committee I Mr Pinchot declared he had dis discussed discussed j cussed the matter at length with Secretary Wilson and that he under understood stood sto d his superior officer had given I him express permission to write to Senator Dolliver Secretary Wilson Immediately took the stand and asserted that while he had given Iven Mr Ir Pinchot permission to write to Senator Dolliver concerning depart departmental departmental departmental mental affairs he never did and never neer neerI I would have given him permission to write a 1 letter criticising the President Of ot the States Under almost wholly by the Democratic members of the com corn committee committee Secretary Wilson was uncertain as to just what had passed between him himself himself himself self and the forester and became some somewhat somewhat somewhat what mixed as to just what letters the referred In their rapid fire of ot questions The secretary repeatedly said he ho never saw or heard hoard of ot the letter Mr Pinchot PIne hot wrote until it was read in the Senate What Pinchot Claimed Mr oIl Pinchot declared that he and Secre Secretary Se re tary Wilson went so far as to discuss the executive order issued by President Taft forbidding subordinates of ot the various de do departments departments to give information to Con Congress Congress Congress gress and added that the secretary said You and I will Viti have no trouble about abou 1 I that order I I Admitting that his memory failed him hini himas as to certain points pJ u nah t IU the sta F lt he never under any circumstances circumstance would have given Ir Ill Pinchot permission to write the letter that caused his retire retirement retirement ment from the service Advice of Secretary Wilson The secretary said Mid he urged Mr Ir Pinchot not to carry out his purpose to blanket a message from the President exonerating Ballinger by b sending in a letter to Sena Senator Senator tor ton Dolliver But persisted counsel for Mr Pin Pinchot Pinchot chot if Mr Pinchot was only to be permitted ted to write about departmental matters how could you OU have thought this letter would blanket the Presidents mes message message message sage I 1 dont know that was idea replied Mr Wilson Wilsen Mr Pinchot denied that he had been embittered by a dismissal which he con cop considered considered unjustified He denied also that there was a specific movement to dis discredit discredit discredit credit Mr Ir He added however that he and former Secretary Garfield Glavis and others are concerned In a movement for the th conservation of ot natural resources and that they regard Mr Bal Ballinger Ballinger linger as one of ot the greatest enemies of 0 that movement I Base of Charge There was a surprising development when Mr Pinchot PInc ot announced to the com corn committee I mittel that he based his charge that Secretary had been guilty of making statements to the President that were absolutely false In three essential particulars not upon a letter from Air Mr Ir himself but upon a letter writ written written written ten by J T Ronald a former law part partner partner partner ner of Mr Bahlinger to Dr Lyman Ab Abbott Abbott Abbott bott Mr Pinchot said a copy COP of this letter with a notation was wail forwarded by Mr to the President He admitted that the statements In the tile Ronald letter which he claimed to tobe tobe tobe be false had previously been covered by bya b ba a letter written to Mr Ballinger himself to the President In which Ballinger had stated what the witness admitted was a atrue atrue atrue true statement of the facts Mr Pinchot said he did not attempt to reconcile these thes two facts Conversations With the President Before this development the interest of the morning session had centered In the announcement by b Mr Pinchot that he would not press for a decision as to whether or not he lie should be allowed to give his version of the conversations with Continued on Page Ten ClASH HAS COME AS WAS hAS EXPECTED Continued from Page One President Taft and the Introduction In evidence by b Pinchot of ot a long letter writ written wit witten written ten to him by President Taft in Septem September her ber br last In this letter leter the President de denounced de denounced Glavis as disingenuous warned ware Mr Ir Pinchot against making Glavis cause his own declared he was sorry Mr Pin Pinchot Pinchot Pinchot chot did not have hae the same confidence and trust In Mr M Ballinger as he did and lastly lasty declared that controversies between the departments In Washington must mut cease He referred In this particular to an al at alleged alleged Interview With wih Ormsby McHarg former forer assistant secretary of at commerce and labor In which Mr McHarg was wa re xe reported ported porte to have said that Theodore Roose Roosevelt volt velt yel Lord must have hare thought himself himsel the |