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Show I-ELTON' I'tSTEKKD. Xbf Sepliew Acletl by liln Own Adiiv tu I lie 4. iplier liusi- 3Inutoa Marble ou tli Stand. THURSDAY EVENISO. New York, 6 Tbia aiternooo the South Caroiiiid diepitcbee were takec up. lMton rtDicinberfd Heudinnotie aetientinf! to ue f.O.OoO, but did not remember the terms clearly, lie remembered accepting tbo propoai lion ot Ved io pay innSoulh Uaro-linn, Uaro-linn, returning bomd $75,000. Had uo explamitiou for the otber dispatches. dis-patches. Hewtut to Baltimore, but Unit naw Mr. Cooper, told him about tbe Weed correspondence, aud that witness might nef-d inour-y. Before he met Weed be waa ruily satisfied the money could be forthcoming, but later I receivtd a telegram from Cooper and some other mo that the mouuj could not be raised. Cooper led me to believe the money could be obtained. Tilden was exceediDRly annoyed and denounced witaeeV action very severely. He hod not the leaat idea of what was going on with the purpose of buyiug the returning boards. 1 certainly didn't tell him ol tbe Weed, Marble or Wooley correspondence. corre-spondence. Had no conversations : witii Tilden on the matter until his arrival from Baltimore. Was not certain cer-tain Tilden hd yet recovered from his .innoyance. Ho told itnesa dialiDCtly that he wauteil no uuch work, and would sooner die than allow liimneH to be put into the presidency under lalte prctenB(s. v ben I subsequently subse-quently showed the governor the whole correspondence he was still : more exercised, and donouncfd tha whole proceeding emphatically. By Heed As secretary o( the na lional democratic committee, did you not arrange the cipher? A. I did not. Q. Did ycu fully explain matters betoro the committee that investigated investi-gated the Oregon election? A. Yea, sir, I did; and have nothing to add to it. In further cross-examination, Pel-Ion Pel-Ion waa unable to state who was tho author of tbe cipher key, but said the same key answered, eo far aB his l recollection went, lor South Carolina ' and Florida. The Iribune tranBla- tioue, he added, were inaccurate. ' He gave copies of the key to Coylo j and Marble. The same key an-; an-; awered for Louieiana, but witness ; could not say to whom he gave the key there. Tilden did not read all tbe telegrams received. He did in-- in-- ouire as to whether or not there waa any newa from Marble, but he never read a single telegram in relation to the negotiationa for the Durchaee ol the returning board. Q. Now, teU us the exact worda ol your uncle. A. 1 cannot say. All I know ia that bo strongly disapproved disap-proved of what I had been doing. Q. Then your uncle and Mr, Cooper disapproved of your planB, from a moral point of view? Mr. Cooper waB treasurer of the national democratic committee; was he not? A. He waB, but as to bis morality 1 cannot say. Q. Did the word "Russia" mean Mr. lildenf A. x guess so. Q. Did you present the telegram reading, "Tell Husdia to saddle Blackatone," to your unck? A. I never did, Q. Did he understand what "Bolivia laura" meant? A. He did not; in fact he never saw any of theee telegrams. "Blaokaione" waa the name of a horse owned by Mr, Tilden. That is all I know about it. Q. This was a suggestion that Mr. Tilden should take some gentle exercise? A. I suppose ao. Witness led the southern people to believe whatever he promised would be faithfully carried out, aud there was somebody behind bim who sanctioned sanc-tioned his actions. He intended, if Cooper favored his plana, to obtain from $60,000 to $S0,000 from the national democratic committee. There ia a groat difference between be-tween buying an election and buy-iDg buy-iDg returning boarda. Did not reside with Tilden dow, and have not since August, "When Tilden's secretary, was regarded as bis accredited agent. Didn't known that he betrayed his confidence in Weed, in saying he could raise from $00,000 to SS0.0O0. Springer objected to Ihe question ! whether witness was not entirely dependent on hia uucle for support, and Baid it waa often said. Heed Baid just aa tbe committee were getting information the democrats demo-crats objected, and Hiacoclc Baid he was dissatisfied with witness' answers and proposed lo have proper oues. The chairman said the democrats were only intereoUd in gotiing at the truth. Hiacock asked if witness considered tbe proposition to purchase the returning re-turning board honest, aui il he understood under-stood the moneys expended in Oregon were to carry the election, and witness complained t! at he was being insulted. in-sulted. Hiscnck denied this, and aked if he wanted the country to think witness, wit-ness, without consulting Tilden or any leading democrat, took upon bimeelf Lo make contracts involving large BitniB, whereas he bad not a dollar? A. You are getting offensive again. Q. Dili you expect to gi-t this money from your uuclt? A. I did not. Q 11. eo from whoni? A. From Mr. Sco t, He did'nt consider be wns gui'iy ol an unj-ut or dishonest act. Hiscock said he intended to examine ex-amine witness more fully, and would insist on an answer to every question coming under the rule. Stenger I have been passive so far; now let me any you abail get all tbe anawera you want. Heed That ia exactly the object of the committee the truta and nothing noth-ing but the truth. Receas. VEM!V SESSION. At tbe evening Eeseion, Pelton was crosa-eiamined by Reed. Q I understand you to aay your proposed wfiy of raising this Urge amount of money to send to Baltimore Balti-more wan laying the matter before the national democratic committee? A Yes, Bir, I bo intended. Q Notwithstanding your uncle'H disapprobation, would you have done ao? A. Ye?. I intended to raise the money if I could, 1 had no! mide up my mind when I agreed to furnish the money to whom 1 should bave gone for it. I would have gone to the most active men in the demo cratic parly for it. Q Name any you would have gone to. A. Well, 1 might have , laid the matter before Cooper, and perhaps I would have convened tbe national committee, or laid it before them Bomebow. Q. You telegraphed your pecept- ; ance to Marble on tbe 4'.b cf Decern- j ber? A. Yes. ' Q. Now, you knew the returning return-ing board was to decl.re ita results on tbe 6:b. and how could you convene tl e national committee or expect ti rai-e that sum ( mony, in the short time, aa it vduIJ take several days to convene ihe cemmittee? A. I did, not suppose it would Uke so lon. I might bave i laid it belure tUL-in ur gut the umnt-y quicker. Now, under IbU eUlemeut do ycu still siy to us that the source you expected to gel lhat money from was the national democratic committee, and that you didn't expect it nearer nome? A. 1 do sir. That was the sole aouree of my dependence for tbe money. I did cot expect ihe mosey from anyone else. Cooper aod Scott, ol tbe committee, were here and I ' could lay Ihe matter bo.'ore them. -l Now, what reason bad you to suppose Scott would engage in a transaction repudiated and denounced by Mr. Tilden, your unfit? A. None sir. I would only lay il before him. Q. D:dn't yon kuow or consider Scott to bo as reputable and bonest a man, for instance, ub your uucle, and that be might acorn such a IrautUC lion? A. 1 didn't consider anything about it. What in Cooper's lif.) led you to believe he would engage io any Bucb evil undertaking? A. Nothing whatever. l Do yiui want it understood lhat ycu telegraphid M irble an unconditional uncondi-tional acceptance on your own re ap.iusibility, without having the nienry ready to carry il out? A. 1 do, but I expected to get tbe money and be ready. Q By S:coger I understand you to say that you hud no assurances either from Ti den or the democratic national romniittee, thut they would supply you with tnouey? A. Yes sir, I so alaU'd. I knpw 1 could not gut the money from Mr. Tildeo. Q You remember wlmn lending statesmen on the republican Bide went south to eee that matters were conducted con-ducted fairly, it waa thought necessary neces-sary to eenJ ropreneutali v men on the democratic side to tee also that the count wiib conduoled fairly? A. Yes, air. It was ubout the time that the republican tUtesmen were sent down lhat we concluded tu aeud loading load-ing men down alBo. By Heed Then do I understand your position to be lhat you were a victim to temptation? A. Well, no; not that exactly. Q' You sent down leading men and the very best meD ol your party? A. Yes, we sent down a prominent and reputable men as any in tbe parly. Q, Waa it not a ecurce of sorrow to you to see them all succumbing to tempation? (Laughter.) A. I scarcely understand you, t-i Of course, I mean to Ihe temptation temp-tation o( returning boards, not to any original sin on their parts? (Laughter.) (Laugh-ter.) Telton and all present smiled at this question, which was unanswered. unan-swered. (2. Did you remonstrate with them by cipher or the telegraph? A. No, sir. t. Why not; was the expanse too heavy? A. I euppose so. (Laughter.) (Laugh-ter.) By Stenger Was there anything in Tilden's lile wbiob led you to believe that he would have loaned you the money needed for the purpose mentioned? men-tioned? A. No, air; on the contrary, I felt convinced that Tilden would not advance tbe money, and would have noihiDg lo do with tbe matter. The committee adiourned until to morrow, having no more questions to ask, but tc id Pelton not to consider himself discharge I. Friday's proceedings. New York, 7. Manton Marble was on tbe Eland to-day, in the cipher investigation. He said he could not say that be went to Florida under instructions in-structions of the democratic committee; commit-tee; had no conversation with Gov. Tilden on the matter; thought he got the cipher from Pelton at the Everett houBe, aud subsequently used it; he neither sent to nor received from Tilden any telegrams; addressed dis patches to Jfelton. Tbe object in eoinc to Florida was to take care of the electoral vote. He said the ciphers published in the New York Tribune, so far as concerned himself, were aimply rubbish. He said he had already published a statement of what he did and did not do in Florida; said what he did not do was to buy the Florida voles, aud they were for Bale. Mr. Marble wanted to submit letters to the committee, but Mr. Heed objected, ob-jected, and they were ruled out by the chair. He Baid he had none ol the telegrams which he sent from Florida. Of tho dispatch from Tallahassee, November 16th, beginning "Use 140 cipher," witness Baid ho had no explanation ex-planation to give, remarking "I must confers there are a number of dispatches correct. " Witness Baid he would like to explain telegram No. 23. It wa3 a dispatch to Helton asking him to have documents circulated circu-lated throughout tho country by aid of tho pres3. Mr. Hiscock objected, saying, "The telegrams are here and 1 insist that they shall stand on their own merits. " Mr. Stenger The intention of this committee ia to eet at everything. and my idea is that every telegram, every paper and every explanation should be admitted. I The vote upon excluding the docu-' docu-' ments or explanations resulted in HuntoD, Springer and Slcoger voting for their admission, and Heed and Hiscock agninrtt their admission. Telegrams No. 2 and S3 were then read. |