Show VANDERBILT AND DEPEW The Great Railroaders Pay Salt Lake a Visit IN fER VIW WITH CHAUNCEY TiE FAMOUS AT3W YORKER TALKS VERY FREELY They Arc Not West on Business and the Vanderbilts Are Not Seeking to Buy the Central Pacific or Union Pacific His Views on Government Gov-ernment Ownership The Funding Fund-ing Bill Depew Says McKinley Will Xot Be In I at St Louts Local Railroad Xews The Latest Rnlroa5 by Wire The Vanderbilt party en route from San Francisco to New York arrived in this city yesterday morning at 1005 and departed again at 1135 thus making mak-ing their stay but a short hour and a half The stop would have been longer but as previously stated in The Herald Her-ald the magnates are due in New York City at a certain date and could not prolong their visit in consequence MET AT OGDEN At an early hour yesterday morning a special left here carrying General Manager Dickinson and General Superintendent Su-perintendent Bancroft to Ogden who went up to meet the party and escort them to this city They came down in private cars 03 General Manager Dickinsons and Southern Pacific Otsero with instructions to have the special ready to return in thirtyfive minutes But this could not be accomplished ac-complished a the distinguished visitors visi-tors were scheduled to drive to the tabernacle tab-ernacle and about the city and more time was consumed than they counted upon They met President Wilford Woodruff Hon George Q Cannon and other church dignitaries during theirs their-s Y and would have lingered longer with them and local Union Pacific offi cers who were intent on showing them courtesies had it been possible I When carriages conveying them arrived ar-rived at the Union Pacific depot on the I return trip there was a pause upon the platform of but a minute before the special pulled out and there wa only time for a hurried shaking of hands This brief space of time admitted of no interview but when the special pulled pull-ed out of this city from Ogden The Herald man was aboard THE PARTY The party from the east consisted of Cornelius Vanderbilt Dr Chauncey 1 Depew John Hone a New York banker ban-ker and Colonel George R Fuaring of Newport R 1 Accompanying them from this city were General Manager Dickinson J E Markel proprietor of the Union Pacific hotels and the church dignitaries who accompanied the party as far a Ogden Ogen VANDERBILT TALKS Mr Vanderbilt said We have been out now some time touring the west and have been doing the coast more extensively than any other seton Not because we attached less importance to other sections but because be-cause we desired to see as much of California as possible while in the extreme ex-treme west They are a wonderfully progressive people out there and the I coming years will witness a growth in i population and resources that will add to the good of the nation Not alone II must this be said of California but of l the west Utah i now being favorably favor-ably snoken of in the eastern centers and increased population must be the natural result Salt Lake is indeed a beautiful city and fast taking on metropolitan met-ropolitan airs I is destined to be in time a great commercial centerin fact I believe it may be now accredited Then the Herald man sidled up to Dr Depew the silvertongued orator who beamed pleasantly the while he delivered I I de-livered himself as follows First you ask me what I think of J I this western country meaning all this intermountain country as well a the boundless plains west of the river I think It has a great future before i But the great trouble is the people are to apt to b led off on issues that concern con-cern not the country a a whole but themselves as an intermountain people peo-ple I find no fault with them because they have the courage of their convictions convic-tions and thus openly avow them a on the silver question And yet they are not a unit on that question The great state of California is not with them on silver The reason is plain That state ha been a producer of gold So will it be perhaps with Colorado Col-orado and other states that find gold in abundance after it is found that silver mining is not so profitable as it once was The eastern people take note of all these things and are governed gov-erned accordingly They say if gold is found In plenty where silver once reigned king why not devote time and money to getting it out I this is a wrong impression the west alone is responsible for It What can you say of western roads as compared with the east There is of course a wide distinc tion but at the same time J distnc say that all things considered western lines have kept pace with the east The Southern Pacific roadbed I regard as a marvel of excellence I is in first class condition for a clay ballast ands and-s being maintained in a way betoken ing great attention What of Utah I would not flatter the new state if I could Everything bids fair for it Salt Lake City has grown wonderfully I Situated as it is in a territory all its I I own and commanding an enormous sured intermountain trade its future is as THE KIDNAPPING FAKE While the most appears all right to you may I apprehend that your good opinion was in no way heightened I from the fact that some California bandits contemplated kidnapping bandit your party I I think that was largely i not al together overdrawn and if it were true we were prepared at all times I for any such move as you allude to Yes I Yes indeed For remember I was at all times along and upon the appearance ap-pearance of bandits I would lhave delivered de-livered then and there one of my after dinner speeches and then put them to flighf Dont you think so laugh And then Chauncey laughed a silvery NOT OUT ON BUSINESS Dr Depew said that Mr Vanderbilt and himself were not out here on business they had not come to buy the Union Pacific Central Pacific or Pacifc Pacifc any other railroad but were purely on a trip of pleasure and observation I wa their desire to get better acquainted ac-quainted with the west and see for themselves if the reports of its glories were true They had come to the conclusion con-clusion from what they had seen so far that the half had not been told NOT BUYING RAILROADS Replying to the query whether Mr Vanderbilt had any idea of enlarging his railroad system Mr Depew replied rE-plied that the millionaire ha positively positive-ly no such intention We said the dootor reach Salt Lake now and dont care to go any further We have 20000 miles of track and are doing as well with it a any other railroad in the country We have enough We rr to do what we think is right and while giving the public the best service we know how we have the same fight < aoi against us in the east as the politicians In the west seem to b waging against their railroad menTHE men-THE FUNDING BILL In regard to Mr Huntingdons funding fund-Ing bill Mr Depew said he was not familiar with the terms of the bill and did not want to be quoted as either favoring or opposing that particular par-ticular plan but he thought some satisfactory sat-isfactory arrangement could be made for the extension of the debt of the Huntington roads to the government the companies should be given plenty of time in which to pay He thought there was no need for anymore any-more competing lines In California The lines in existence and their connections con-nections were nearly all in the hands of receivers the Northern Pacific Union Pacific and Santa Fe for example ex-ample They not only dont pay any dividends but a large part of the money that hao been put Into them has been lost Two lines to the coast were sufficient to do all the business and then not make too mudh money THE WORST THING THAT COULD HAPPEN Government ownership of railroads he thought was the very worst thing that could happen and quoted South America as an example where the roads owned by the government were about the worst on earth while those run by private corporations are equal to the United States roads Under our system of government the thought of government ownership was out of the question for with every change of administration ad-ministration a change in managers of the roads and probably of the executive execu-tive officers would take place which would resul in turmoil and general decadence de-cadence of the roads Better let the roads on which the government holds mortgages mort-gages be sold for what they j ill bring but he thought this would not be necessary nec-essary as an equitable arrangement ought to be easily made about the Pacific Pa-cific railroad debt such as would make the government safe and would not be too severe upon the people who own the roads NOBODY BUT MORTON Speaking of politics the doctor said Morton was the only possible candidate on the Republican ticket New York Is still the pivotal state She has more electoral votes than any half dozen western states and with Morton she is sure to go Republican With anyone else the result of the election would be uncertain but with Morton Republican success is assured thought the doctor |