Show Herrmann and Murphy in Secret Confab in Chicago Two Baseball Magnates Discuss Discuss Discuss Dis Dis- cuss Trade of Tinker Tinker Cubs Cubs Will Lose Says Chance By Pu Publishers Press Pres Chicago Oct Oat 28 Garry Garr Garry Herrmann president of or tho the Cincinnati Reds neds arrived arrived ar ar- rived rl in Chicago o toda today and went Into secret conference with President Murphy Murphy Mur Mur- ph phy of ot the tho Cubs Tho two magnates talked about tho of or Jo Joe Tinker Garry Carry Is anxious to secure Joe to manage his b ball lall club in the place of ot Hank ODa ODay hut but those who are familiar with tho the attitude of IC Herrmann sa say the tho trade probably will rover er bo be pull pulled rf off ocr From other sources It was learned the Cub boss wanted too tuo much In exchange for tor Tinker an and that Garry Informed Murphy ho lie would not wen weaken ken his club to strengthen the west side team S. SAYS YS Culls cuns WILL UL LOSE JOSE Albuquerque N. N M. M Oct 28 Visiting here her on his wa way to Los Angeles Frank Chance deposed manager of oC the he Chicago Chicago Chicago Chi Chi- cago Cubs declared torl tonight ht tho the team would be In the second division lldon In The Cubs next season will In b be a second second sec sec- ond division team and er e everybody bod knows knowl It H. ho said Murphy alone is responsible sible for tor tho the condition of oC the club lIe He refused to give me money with which to got et new players and he Is now face tace to tu faco fact with the proposition that I fore tore |