Show IK TIll GOfl1U1T wantEd to go into ihe teUgraph hoI i m3 it should buy the lines outright out-right i should not attempt fix losIng ratA for tho existing com nnle That would not bu fair to he 3300 stockholders of the Western Union It would need as many lines lN now In existence to do he business The scheme resented 1 was to go to 147 lostofllces where there was a free delivery and where here are already abundant telegraph tele-graph faiilitles This was the way the Postiuaslir General proposed to Supply the needs of 63000000 peo Ill TilLs was the entering wedce of a movement to break down the pnsent companies and establish a complete govenumiittcle rapband against that lie protected I Dr Gnen then made a comparison compari-son hetneen the Amelirau and Knplish teligraph systems roiln Ulnlng that our rates in reality taking into account the free ni drowses and signatures and the enormous ireaofterritorv covered were much lower than the EnglIsh rite jet it wa ropo eil to lower thesis rates l arbitrarily Mill livir It wonII nijulre 21 1S7 milijs of win to biip > l > i single eonm jtion to lIe 437 places comjrised ulthin I Uie Po tmas < errGenenl8 plan toad to to tho bu < Im s ttLfacltlfll It would require at I let Ilk 009 mill of wire At Irls contraels the rental of tlili wire would be ST000 000 Vhot verundcrtixk to do the telegraph h bu Inc s would do it it a loss LI TIllS COUSTBV there were more telegraph office than postolllcf In the older part of the country hey were SJ percent per-cent greater and yet Great ISritain owneil Inth telegraph and jostoHl era Did tint Iftjtc as if the Western Union was not keeping ihreiituf the limes In I North OiFoUui till Western Unionha i teiegnihnnUrs that did not pay SS cents a day in gloss nttIIt At the At pUct named in the Postmaster Gcnentrs Ian as telegraph oflief the government govern-ment owned but 101 postoOlce build ings 1 It was hecorlIug1 grave question as to whether it now profited the Western Union to continue its con tracts with the railroad companta Originally they were Pounces of great revenue but now the railroad bjMuesswas increasing fuchnn extent that it wu doubtful If the telegraph conijnny Iilch htndled their bu incfs free did not lose by UA agreement The chairman asked how much of their business thu Western Union did in the free delivery cities Dr Green replied that about 30 per cent would cover It That bush I ne was more largely speculative than remainder of Iwinrsp as it would I include the great money centres of tile country Tlie chtinnan said tint It was propoul to pay the operators out of the 2 cent charge for the po tag tamps lie would like to know what the operating CO t ISDn IS-Dn ClKHN rEtl111 lint t close estimate placed it at Scents S-cents per message In cases of long distance i messages it ran up i to a rants Tlieavecage compensitionof h llo rootro fi fir tclass operators was 0Th per inonUi The eliairman wished to know how tho rates suggested by the PostmasterGeneral compared with the present ntes Dr Green replied that generally they were two lifths lower In Ue case of longnihuince mi ° ages they were onehalt lower Thu average mcS1go was twcntj ne word including I in-cluding addresses and signatures It was preferable to continue the system of free addresses to luure accurato delivery Under the En gush system where the address was eharged for tile addresses were cramped and the meKsagcs frequently frequent-ly I failed in delivery To the broad question as to how the lmi6tcrGenerali plan npr np-r nd to him as a business proposition propo-sition Dr Green said that of course it could be carried out but the bust l nets could not be done by the government gov-ernment or by n corporation at a profit and somebody would have to make up lie deficiency IlepreKentalive Cain wlhed to know why if the bill was irui tactic able Dr Green and the rut of the telegraph compinles ajipeared here contend against it Dr Grevn replied that It coos a serious matter for them They did not wi > h to bu placed competition wiUi Uio United States Treasury The government could AFTORD TO BEAR A IX3S3 Mr Grain But tho bIll dOtnt provide for that DrGreen It will havo provide for that You will bu asked for an propnatou within a year Mr Crab remarked Hint if no company would contract with the government lie bill could do liens 10 harm Thu chairman at this point intervened to say Uiat Dr gr ir istI Green did not appear at his own Instance stance but ct the reijuest of the committee but the doctor conUuu log his reply to Mr Grains query lId Why ia it that tie British goT rnment bad its telegraph system for twelve or fifteen ycar paying IIA operators half our solanes with a sjttem placed I in an open country fnl a small area thickly populated costing about oncUird uf the cost ot our system ta maintain why was It that that government had resisted he attempt to lower the shilling rate and why had the postmaster general after yejJjUng too attempt t for a year and i half nally afreet to only n slight reduction 1L Isle cauSe the reielpts of the system lacked IOOoJ of pnj ing the interest inter-est on the LOt of the plant at Spec Cent Mr AnJeron rcfutring to lie j stmi ter generals bill raid that It dlJ not contemplate the nay ment of tAIUIE SAI MIESTOOFIlCWti Dr Green dryly responded that It lie wanted to do tell graph ness hu would have to pay homebody to look after It and pay them well too After all what mattered U A salary 550000 perannumamount cd tea charge of onelcnUi of a cent per miseae in the Western Union business 1 in Iii PotmitcrGen erals rates wire adopted by the Western Union its receipt would fall just 10000 < below the ex I nUittms evi ry ycir At this point the committee a j lourned to meet tomorrow when Dr Green will continue his statement state-ment formalities AIUIV Al I TOI HIATIOX C1LI Representative Cuteheou from Uio comtuUteo on mllitarj nflalr today reported to the House the army proprlatlon bill Thu total approiiriiUon carried by tile bill is 2I455 2D an increase Ocr lie II iru rialion for the current year of 3333GOJ The estimates submitted by thu department aggregated 25 011574 LAnD Tho House committee on agriculture agricul-ture this morning resumed a hearing hear-ing I on the imposition to regulate tho manufacture lard and lard compound and place lie latter under tho control of the Internal revenue iteprtsentnt ve Stewart opposed the prorosnl Itsklatlon nth said n-th Farmers Alliance of Georgii wtreoppoed to it Vf J Curtis presenting Fair lan < fc Co summed UI for the manuficturtM of lord compound and Vf V KlmMll of lOst u ad dreKed 1 lie conin < ltteu on behalf of the promoters of thu proposed Irgl mimi Cotutel Itrighm misler nfthe National Grange Patruiw of Husbandry also stole i in favor of it OKNKUM srnis has filed with the house lIllian Committee a statement rrpjlni to the atsertions for IIeut nant Kcn non uf General Crooks stain in which he f3s tie joung cfllccr uas not authorized to s r1 for the Seretary of War Ilfi lv Get eral Miles statement Governor Wol Ilij of Arizona filed n copy of a resolution apoj ted by the SocIety of Arizona rionecrs protecting Irtln the resolution of the house In his litter tran mittlnK tl c resolution the governor sharply scone LIeu tenantlvenuonforhl litso TIIC CIVIL SERIC IN ESTIO VTION was renewed today Oce of the changes agaInst the Commission considered averred tint JtoeTet secunil thetppointment of Hamilton Hamil-ton bhidy to a I lace ill the census bureau whet It was known that Shidy as secrttary of the bean of local rximimrs at the Mil waukce poctcfllce had persistently and repeatedly violated his oath of nOire in makIng alo certll1catlon and net reporting violations cf the civil service law Shldy testifcd lint thee were irregularItIes ir-regularItIes in the Milwaukee pot ofiice wheli he did 1 not report as lie considered his duty to lie post matter to bo l aramou Thi postmaster post-master was Paul appointed bv tlm last n D1lnl tralion Shiny said it w as made a part of hU duty under Paul to doctor the records fO as to make some ccrtlficatbns improperly improp-erly 1aul had free iccts to all tho lists I nnd at tImes revised the fx nmination pipers to change the per centago of the applicants VTIONAI lion DKCIIKASE Tho estimited decrease of the public debt during the month was 1iJOOOOTit |