Show THAWS POSITION remand for immediate signature 0 A TIME TO CONSIDER rin tAlly given on an hour and it a half to head the proclamation of 0 the church authorities repudiating nis nia position on church counsel in ln 0 rou action Port portions lons lie ile could not indorse without stultification I 1 fi Rober robertas tais friends ex 1 plain views I 1 statement of monee thatcher salt knit lake lahe city april 6 16 at about I 1 title morning two of 0 the quorum of oc the twelve called call til ou on me ond and ed a document of rev cral pages pa for roy my consideration rols ivash h ini ing me ino to sign eln it immediately tio so that thoy they could take it away avith them mom on my tn y re iut st for more time hino to consider it the matter they agreed to leave it olti mo me until 1 20 30 p in at A aich time I 1 returned the dolum A nt t with the following reply april 6 1816 1896 lorenzo ann and apo tie brighman min dar brethren lieving carefully oare fully rond the document loft feith me tor for I 1 here lalib jetuan ita As pei promise Is much of inq m contents that I 1 could conscientiously indorse by signing but thre there art are othor portions which I 1 cannot tri dorse without stultification if I 1 was well I 1 might lv this most sellout Bor ser loui lout matter mailer in another light or I 1 might do 91 ao hid had I 1 more time to consider it but a it Is it seems that I 1 must now though I 1 ully fully realize how saul icat illness he hareak weak ened nic mc in every way in the future fatur e the th lord may e ahlo able me to U define dc fenc in my y law wa and acts act as aa running along those of 0 honor Int intercity errity and truth now I 1 can only humbly ask that you alt according to the hol br trita dictation dir tation irl atlon as by justice and love your fellow fallow laborer in the tb cause of our savior THATCHER the donalon of the mormon 0 church co conference inference Yee yesterday altern non produced a tw litreal and re pene atlon inn the question that stirred utah last lait frill fall relative to the candidacy of church fr for pollyl CILI office was wall blvd n b ba it a proclamation in which tho th rule wa wag rp ro an armed that men eni mIred in the he service of tho the church munt tako AIA counsel marivel that la is as ask it bof the th church authorities before candidates for pollyl cal position thi the in itself was wai to excite the most mort profound interest t but the fact that it was wag aub all b K albel hy by 13 it roberto was anu benoit dional it did rort b hilr ar th tha Rig signature nature of alases thatcher Th aicher wha wh with was under the lown ban last fall fait for violating the th rule and abo lock lark of hit nam camp on th document was the cause cau of a another n that was waa astound I 1 ng DEI 0 when tho the names of were called in th conference that the people might vote to th that of docs in thatcher Thatch vr was WAR not an ounce the failure to namo name him was wa 4 not ip generally noad at the time limp but when th thi of the orn issic w was spread th rouin n th ahr aret congre 90 tion it most Inte riBe interest many aro ere at clra disposed to belloc lH liec that the omission to submit apostle thatch rs name to a ot ote was du to it mistake but it was not on ao the omle slon was waa deliberately intentional the address had tawn L n bakon to the ho apostal about by prom lent flent loronzo snow and apostle brig half ham toting and he had been requested to sign it t after afler examining it lie he hod had declined decline to oi sn nn 1 his refusal tie OP corred but a chort phort tim before the meeting of the conference in the th afternoon but the intervening time lime was lorn long enough for lh tho church auth to tn doald to withhold his no name iris from the th conference con f HONOR place ciack in sir thatchers That cherB card given above i Is IK contained the of his reo rea ons for not which he guve to the b oa em of the addas it was upon abia statement alu that it tile the action of the church authorities wait waa based though the th letter to his hi fi fallow low apostles Is pouched in touching ternas terms it Is clear clea r from it that years yeara of suffer ing have not alpi alved him of the courage of hla his convictions lie holds holda that to lan sign t the he address would he to stultify and he cannot do that even to secure acu ecu re peace or THE ACTION tho thic action of the church authorities 60 so eo few precede rits nta that evon among of the klorman 1 church thre ia I 1 1 wid vr id d uncertainty as an t to 0 the effect f t c of y nida fl proceedings proceeding edin gs upon the tha ta connection of apostil Thatch thatcher cr with fill th church an eminent churchman lui larl evening relative to thatchell Thatch Tha ll s status apostle A position jn ln 11 clift 0 o of the twelve n not of been b bi the failure to submit it bin bill pain to lo the conference concert nce it may imply ply thil that he la in not in harmony with the quorum but it does not affect hla his official offic right if he should persist in hla hill to give in his adhesion to the rule in question steps might be h bakon to 0 o secure his hl removal from tile the apostleship put birt I 1 am inclined to IA think thit that no nn such duch course courm will be ba followed lov ed in view of hla his lit ill health the th Irrea leat patience will no doubt be exer cifer with him it if ho homeer howe weer cr his re rc should b br sought he could not nl be M until tie he had had a 0 full hearing before him quorum that to ho he have to h tried by the other Arost apostles les an all appfel from their alb ten lon would lip lie to the general Apper assembly rib IY of the ih church which in fr comp composed of tile hie great body of iw ItICIa ls of the church an appeal lies from an fluor uro or of the church to thu this general but th church I 1 n 0 b crab ip an 10 a M finlo meeting in t conf e t cien let d SL not net act on fin theme appeals PC Is tho the 1 hatcher matter mill riot not come th conference fonfe ronce colt in coic cage lie he should 1 boco como n it illine 1 accede to tile the of tile authorities in which event of oi ursi his namo v would be submitted at the he following in the list of home to be b sustained CAUSE OF THE ACTION in him add to UH reconvened democratic convention list fall bloser th paid the hint I 1 h was nall y opted OPT ed to high church officials 9 dart in politics iti ill harmony with will this V aliw V hv he bald ald the rule requiring the taking or of aiu as adopted hut but he w it was war shortly lly thet thedoar oar tas tait tr I 1 remember ignored and that V 1 3 i atho HIP renord I 1 think will how riot not b by Y mi mbaye or of the ho D df party out but by their political opponents lit K did not however its a strongly as aa ra nidar tl capic concede the propriety of the lie rule requiring the taking of coun let kd tte garding the issue before the con convention e nil lie said bald many op pt if not the majori in utah have been made niafle to feel eel that chiy were more or less under a us ban and have had to end endure r J lie hie still s if not th he direct insults ly and in e rut put upon ilan lif by men m who ol 01 1 had a 4 espoused other political doctrines and a d maroy have endured I 1 an ain to their religious and that alch lc to recently occurred in ta alfr priesthood meeting was but it A natural qC quence of causes cause leading up to lo that CHURCH II 11 AND STATH STATE ar tonally tonal lv I 1 have no complaint to make maho bause of what then and there lipron ed in the allum lons badt to ir if e as aa I 1 view it the individual acco pc bap pineR s integrity and reputation of ono on man mail or a score of men cut hut but little figure in matters of crea threat I 1 conic unc to t the people of utah clial cli that nl u aich tin naw confronts yi ig but I 1 mi mayl to ray in ng ilot nothing in the arts u ta 0 nd d bordi word ot of ma waria tir any p 9 deop in th churcott in th belle f that thai I 1 would not upon proper ot calon ca ion hw AS n I 1 nl al wava have dolp of ono tile the repot reir moet duff dud m my y s super u por lora lors and that without in the iho leam t olerree doing a conr or in any way affecting the honor of lh tile millicaa mil Lical to which I 1 belong 1 kuve ku ve alays bellied and now believe that there Is abundance otro orn in utah as 06 etch for at citizen to so do his v ft holo hole auti ut 1 the state without s without in the const degree interfering with hit to the church of which h he may ba member the thought ha had of neier neer occurred to mf me that I 1 had at any ny tin time len heen it a priestly hi roling the the least intimation from those who furnish turn 1511 moons front from which mi spit and others have received that such I 1 ht their low of the matter mailer I 1 would rori take nor expect c corn m for work bul ut would vo gladly do all in my power trusting ill ahr future for tle lle to lo blob I 1 m old bf be entitled d ROBERTS THEN AND NOW how the elders chang chango o of base Is explained ono one of the surprises carmod by the conference paused yesterday and elamm here re vo was as due to the eig signature nature of tl it it roberts roberta among those of the officials who subscribed it ithe position taken by mr air liol erts erta in the last campaign was waa such as to load to the belief that a if li lion between him and the first presidency was altogether unlikely but fur for some et ll it has been felt in inner church circles it it Is ald aid that negotiations got lations for ol a restoration of friend friendly ly relations between nir mr roberts and those he became 0 estranged bt ranged from in the campaign was mas assured earlier there aas w m expectation that mr air roberts awit it ir ruse fuse to in agree to the rule relative to taking counsel before accepting political honor and that ba h would lie ile disciplined but this expectation was waa some tirre ago it Is stated by an assurance from him that ho he was in harmony with mith tile the proposition to proclaim the rule POSITION DEFINED mr air 1110 roberts berts declined last evening to state flat III hj reasons for the ad diess dices it la Is believed boever bow ever by friends of roberts roberta that he takes tho the that WS his action in it in not I 1 U con I 1 vent with his atrit altitude ic isaf fall 1 lilt than were pot not ago I 1 not t the e rule tout but against its at that particular time in low of circumstances that led him to believe that it hall had fallen alien into ou in the In mr fr roberts pave gave to the press on october hah when tho to crisis we wat on in answer to tho tho question lave have sou ica hn ben attentive to 10 the he tt iha of tho th church in poll political affairs lie said paid I 1 think thin k I 1 have v I 1 t 1 in croper limits several years IRO nac only two yeara aciro lt jt via a ate plated tod that it was thour lic wister wl members of if the quorum of the the first seven of oc the presidents of of stakes anti and bishops not to lo take ac part in political alfi tirs in consequence of their relations ith the abile thore ihre were some filings d in such an order that did riot not met meet milli fah my personal per views thero were in it which appealed to my avid on an the help li olf I 1 aco it with ith pleasure and to looked 0 ked u upon pon it ft as tho of a get oral eral church which hot both it t ahn 0 and now 1 think the church au all load lind it perfect right to issue and it if any chuifo chunch authority nul hoilly apoll hirn tile alie order had effect did not like it lie ho had the alternative of resigning liln bill position HAD APPROVED IT 1 I bay any on the whole my judgment approved V ed it 11 anil and hence I 1 accepted it 11 but I 1 was dome hat bin alit to find soon boon after ahat hal every one knows to be the cate that notwithstanding the bove above order one of the twelve lelve and one 0 of I 1 the no members embers of the council of seventy to I 1 too belonged longed were again actively engaged in an politics in the interest of the republican party and indeed beoh was waa the large number of 0 the exceptions allnott immediately made to the general older by permit ling men that were prohibited by said order to accept nominations and otherwise become active in politics that the exceptions asell nigh desti destroyed oyed tho the force of the rut ruh SUFFERED E ANNOYANCE CE this was wa a of much an annoyance noy ance to me because individual democrats and delegations of democrats waited upon me an and insisted that I 1 should also take part in political at a fila falls especially as one of the mern members bers of the be courell council to which I 1 belonged was vas active and I 1 was plainly told that my iti lence was mas construed into menn int that flat I 1 WAR llen col by tile church load ere erb and thit the apostles in question and my follow fallow president were sent out by the he church and my silence on the one hand and their activity on the other oilier was being out in n the settlements ettle ments as an Indle atle that it waa mam the wish of the presidency that the republican baity should succeed I 1 true tru however r to the order of the church and took no part in political affairs otT alra except unit that at a gathering of democratic so noali cletion ala ut at saltair that met to rejoice ivr the lh prospect ct of the passage of the enabling seti accepted an invitation to tie he present and make it fw few f w remarks that I 1 thought I 1 could do without any impropriety WHY hn 1411 WAS NOMINATED whilo while I 1 was as absent from the terri tory lory either lit in august or september of last year tile the convention in davis county which assembled to nominate candidates for the constitutional convention ven tion me as one 0 of athe alie delaga ack baica tea upon returning to utah a few V beeks alter after that convention I 1 lear learned n e of of my nomination and understood from reports coming from a kiember of the county convention that the general rule before alluded to had either been utterly disregarded by the or had alon hl n set aside by the author itle a for there v was as quite a number of church church officials on the prohibited list put in nomination 0 on inquiry I 1 learned from gentlemen in thin talk city that such euch were their words worda had bpi been taken off tile church officials heretofore hereto fre prohibited i from participating in politics inquiry of one of the th in members embers of the providen cy connived conni tried med u what hat had been tol told a me I 1 sald to him that thai ny iny acceptance of tho the nomination for delegate to the conven lion would involve me inc again ln politics as even then pressing invitations i ere coming to raw me from all parts of the territory to do political the gentleman in rUit lon said not hint clat I 1 would ile bo all right and I 1 again entered tin the political arena still awl accompanied mr in hit hie tour through the territory and have boon been active in politics ever since ns ia everN everybody body knows and that too without any comp complaint Writ to me front from the church authorities for that activity and with the understanding on my part that uio tile general order of some two mo years ago aeo to hach I 1 say bay my judgment on the whole assented had been abrogated VIOLATED NO KO chunchi RULE after stating that lie accepted the itic nomination for Cong congelos eLss in the belief that thai the rulo rulf requiring counsel to be taken in such cawa cases had lin practically rescinded mr r roberts It paid I 1 now mow understand that I 1 believe that trio tho church have the right ta t any amaat f that certa lill C acers lit in lit tho ch church ur ell hall ahall not participate in political I 1 0 feairs and it Is for those officers to submit to the regulation or resign that officio and if they retain their post tlona and violate the regulation the church can 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