Show REMARKS ff P it T ligha gha i 1 I 1 1 n tabernacle nov 16 1856 I 1 liy BY geo D WATT I 1 i to 0 o make i i 1 v remarks to satisfy the t s ot of the pi pt ie an I 1 correct cornica their minds int nent i nt I 1 i h uve ive hear heart arning mill mirl tb th ruff Buff rin rih rings s of 0 ale in n th han ban ha hancart cart trains tram and alid prot bi b y vou lou oi will I 1 r irha irhe tr he elders for sometime some time 0 nwe those wj wa bae hae h we lately returned from 0 0 asiong and add those hose now on the plains s si it anit ait alt olt the s l PIPS lips they have haie witnessed I 1 ild iid like t f forestall the erroneous im rp a i i s that hat md may y aay nay lay otherwise imbibe on 0 3 a 0 brt bre t f i f the he living and aul the dead and you will ic ta ah il 11 0 not nit half tile tae number died in br wil hes les hap it 1 calt cart copany cw c ii pany a y in pro proportion to the a D v TI n IT r in i n tha r ru pany as pha have e died in as s s issig by the tho ci i tera lera iera in single compana a 3 ic ta nelna vellin with wa is ns and oxen with cars and horses ai a 11 I 1 that too in the fore part jf df tia tip season 1 a n you ou called to mind this f fae tae oe relations of 1 l he c sufferings of our compan s his saso aili aill d not be so harrowing to y r f V a re ard to those who have I 1 aud ad been lai i away by the roadside on the a s sace sil sll ce the c 1 I weather edther commenced let ne oie tell teil you on that 1 1 alipy ty t y have hav e not suffered one hu hui haI haareh reh part s m mich ich as did our brethren A i sisters siso sisi rs who ha h ai e died with the cholera soma some of those who have died in the handcar c gnp icieg t s season I 1 am told would be and afire the tune was done dorp kv w J 11 I 1 grop arop over aa a id breathe their last and arid oh s would dle dip while inie eating and with a piece of bead b ead lii iii their hands I 1 should be pd pleased leased when the t tame fame me comes if we could all depart from this ho as easily as did those our bre aren and sis eis pis P s I 1 repeat it will be a appy circum sta ine ire when nhen N hen death overtakes me if I 1 am iii jed J erl eci ed to die without a groan or struggle while y at t retaining a good appetite for fo d I 1 speak of these things to forestall x ance nce in a m spaced I 1 sympathy luu ion hive hise beard fh brethren relate their trials thi 0 agh I 1 v it is a wicked place roose regions of he country are the locality of he hat have come upon this pe pie take ill ss uri un illinois and iowa olp cip n i i they are the th places paces AA here we have been atac atae fed ted and dri n what can we expect from those people anything 0 but hell bell out of lors dors noh not long since I 1 was wag talking C with one of the brethren bre hren who has crossed the plains this season in regard to the propriety of companies s starting arang so late he argued that it was far be beer er for the saints to be striving with all heir their might mi ht doing all they could to serve the lord add and and add keep his bis commandments and traveling in the road to zion with intend to build it tip up a and d establish the kingdom of god gd on earth even though they should lay down their lives b by y he the way than to stop among among the gentiles ad and apostates I 1 told him it was a good argument though it was not exactly according to he the will of the people and the will of the lord for he wishes to throw temptation and trial before his people to prove them preparatory to their eternal exaltation consequently if the people have not an opportunity of p proving rov i ing themselves before they die by the ruler of their faith and aad rel gion they cannot expect to attain to so high a glory and exalta exaltation tion tiou aa as they could if they had lad been tried in all thin things yet I 1 believe belim it is better for the people pi to 0 lay down thair their bones tones by the way side than it is for fon them to stay in the states and apostatize I 1 told he the elder that his argument seemed reasonable but it made me think of the story about a roman Cat catholic fiolic priest and a jew the priest was crossing crossing on the ice and on his way found a jew who had fallen through an air hole bole ci bining ning to the he edite eise else of the ice alid dud unable to get gut A 0 it he begg begged ed of the priest to help hlin out but he would not unless be he first I 1 professed a belief in jesus chris christ 1 I cannot j said the jew then I 1 will let you down I 1 replied re lied bied the priest and let go of him still c clinging I 1 to the ice as the priest was about to IP ne e ag again agnin lid begged bimo biro to pull hini him out 1 4 I lan tan lo 10 of miless unless you believe in lil christ 1 I cai ait lit ift belive bellve 11 said the jew and the priest 1 t him hirn go again at length the jew said take me out I 1 do believe in the lord jesus chilst chiist ch with all my might 17 do you said the I 1 est then I 1 think it is best to save you while h you are a cb canian and arid strone strong in the faith and he be sho rho e I 1 inin luin under the ice IL i e could b h i r if so I 1 would a little rather the saints could 1 e privileged ed to come conie here and arid serve the lord or apostatize apostatize as they might choose for we s tre ire irely y expect to gather both the good and the bad you recollect what I 1 told you on last sabbath that we can beat the I 1 orid world orld at any anything if br willie has hag bro ight kight in some of the sharks the garfish the sheep heads and so on and BO so forth it is all right for we need them to make up the assortment as yet I 1 do not know how bow we could get along without them all these kinds seem to be necessary I 1 hav han have e seriously reflected upon the gather gathering of the peo people ayle nyle they have all the time urgently gently I 1 ir plead and a importuned importuner to be gathered especially from the old countries where they are so severely oppressed and they are willing to come oil on foot f oot and arid pull hand carts or to do anything thin so they can be gathered with the saints wai WWI veli yell we ire do gailar them and where do many of them thein go to the devil in nauvoo we had obligations to an amount exceeding against saints that we had brought 11 from england with our private means and there is not to exceed two of all the per sois thus brot broi brought ight out who have honorably come coine forward to pay one cent of that outlay in their behalf and some soine of them were in tilt mob when it killed joseph I 1 knew all the time that it was better for i many of those persons to stop in england and starve to death for then they might have received a salvation but they plead with the lord and arid with his servants for an opportunity opportune to prove themselves and made use of it to seal their darn daIn damnation nation Dation and become angels to the devil they had the opportunity do you not see that they hal had if saints do ri right ht and have performed all required of thein them in this probation they are under no more obligation and then it is no matter whether they live or die for their work here is finished this this is a doctrine I 1 believe if br willies Wil wll iles lica company had haj not been assist cl ei c l by the people in these valleys and he and his company hid h d lived to the best light they had in their po possession session had hail done every every thing hey they could have done to cross the plains and done just as they did dil askine asking no questions and hav having n no doubt doubting ip or in other words if after their president Pies ident or presidents told them to go on 01 the plains they had gone in full faith had pursued the their ir jouriet jou 0 z according cording ic to their ability ability and done a all ali t they ey could and we could not have rendered them any assistance it would have been just as easy for the lord to send herds of fat buffaloes to lay down within twenty yards of their camp as it was to benl beni send sand flocks of quails or to rain down mandia matilla from heaven to israel of old my aly faith is when we ire have done all we can then the lord is under obligation and will not disappoint the faithful he will perform the rest if no other assistance could have been had b by the companies this season I 1 think they would hav had hundreds and hundreds of fit fat buffaloes crowding around their camp so that they could not liep hep but kill them but under i the circumstances it was our duty to assist clem them and we were none too early in the operation it wai was not a rash statement for me to make at our last conference when ibold you that I 1 would dis dismiss iniss the conference if the people would not turn out and that 1 I with rny my brethren would go 0 to the assistance of the companies iee ive we knew that our brethren and sisters were on the plains and in need of assistance and we had the power and ability to help them therefore it became our duty to do so the lord was not brought under obligation in the matter so he had put the means 7 in n our possession to render them the assistance they needed but if there had been no other way the lord would have helped them if he had had to have sent his angels to drive up buffaloes day after day and week after week I 1 have full confidence confide ric e that the lord would have done his part my ray only lack of confidence is that those who profess to be saints will not do right and perform their duty your hear the testimony oi of the brethren with re regard t to 0 the feasibility of the handcart hand cart mode I 1 of traveling raveling that testimony and their experience have fully sustained the correctness of the views and feelings of myself and others u upon ye 0 n that subject from the beginning it is the very essence of my feelings that the people in this house if we wanted to cross the plains next season to the states could start from here with hand carts and beat any company compan in i t traveling elin that would cross the plains with wi gln gin teams andle andie andoe better off and healthier these are my feelings eerlings f ee lings 0 and they have been all the time I 1 have argued the poi per before the people that they are not aware of their ability that they do not know what they can do that they thy I 1 are healthier when they live ilce ive ire in the tiie open air What wha g PS es the people colds and makes them sick you yuu hear many maily say 1 I had not bad a cold th is fall until iceme I 1 came into our new house brethren ald wid aid sisters that have coine come hito into the city from living in the kenyons kan and those who have arrived from the states this season have not been troubled with colds until they came into arni oin bo b iss rss ia that yi PS them cona cons by deemin dep min thir lu hi iuis inis luis digs is of the bengi ben beh fi thy they are ar e 1 or aled to keepin e from froni the it t is 13 a stran p thought but could you seiph the particles parti cies cles of ot life that oil instantly constantly cl receive I 1 from the water you joil d drink and from the air you jou breathe you would learn that you receive a propof tion of i neut nent ent farm those sources than from flom ohp food yo yoi yol i ci co idume many are not aware of this for they thi are not apt a t to reflect re act how bow much longer they c in live when v en deprived of food than they c cn n when wilen deprived of air when people are obliged to areat breathe e confined air they do not have that free full flow of the it iori lori and nou nourishment rish ment i that is in the fie fiego dir dill ddll ai dil I 1 they althey begin to decay and arid go go into ihde v VP P call consumption people need not be n aid ald of livin living out oat of 1 i doors nor of sleeping 0 r i of if doors this country is much healthier than the lowlands in the i states or than many places in the old world I 1 recollect that in lj t myself br kimball llin luin ball bail and others traveled two thousand miles inside of three months and that too in the heat beat of summer we wo cooked our ou own food carried our guns pot cot our provisions by the way vly and ier faid performed er formed the journey within ninety days we kid lid on the ground every night and there was scarcely a night that we could sleep for the air rose from the aroun 1 hot enough to suffocate us and they supplied in country as they did eggs by the bushel bus bushell hell beli they never thought of supplying less than a bushel ishell gr so at oi once ice to an individual that journay journey was many times more taxing upon the tile health and life of or a person than this seasons handcart journey over the plains you may take the rich and the poor every ever person and they can gather from the missouri X river or from parts of tile the states where whre wh re there are no railroads or steamboats easier than they can ii with ith teams and I 1 am ashamed of our elders that go out on missions it is a disgrace to the elders of israel that they do not start dart from here with hand carts or with nap sack backi on their backs and go to the states and from there preach their way to their respective fields 0 of labor br kimball moves that we do not send bend any elders from this place again unless they take hand carts and cross the plains on foot when the time comes I 1 expect expect that this motion willbe will be put to vote it t is a shame for the elders to take with them from this place everything they can rake and scrape serape I 1 can call go on foot across the ahe plains As old as I 1 am I 1 can take a hand cart and draw it across those plains quicker than you can go 0 with animals and loaded wagons and be healthier d ithier when I 1 get to the missouri river our elders must have hav e a good span of horses or 1 mules and must ride r ride 1 yde ride kill many of their animals and get little or nothing for those left when they arrive at the missouri river besides taking four or five hundred denars debars i worth of property from their families and 1 some ride so much that they do not know how to preach whereas if they would walk they would be in far better belter condition to labor in the gospel As to the expediency of the handcart hand cart moie mode of traveling ars ellsworth mcarthur and but ker who piloted the three first handcart hand band cart companies over the plains can te testify that they easily beat the wagon companies br ellsworth performed the journey in 63 days and br mcarthur in oil gli notwithstanding the hindrance bythe bytha baggage 0 wagons wagons jf it sr br willies company could have hac hae haa hau thein their provisions deposited at laramie and at green river niver and had j been free from wagons they would have been in this valley by th the time they were in the storms we are not in the least discouraged about the handcart hand cart method of traveling As to its preaching a sermon to the as has been remarked remarket they are preached pretty nigh to destruction already we do not care whether tile the handcart liand hand cart scheme preaches to them or whether it be by the teachings of the elders ciders of israel they are so bound up with their friends and so priest ridden that they cannot burst through those chains and they will have to remain so until jesus lievi devises ses some other means to save them fog foy the 11 great majority will 1 not hear and obey there area are a few who are sufficiently independent pei pes dent to obey the truth when they hear ft it we will gather them up and let the devils howl and let all hell be moved in striving to overthrow this people we will gather the faithful god being our helper and we ire do not care whether the rest hear and believe or not the sound of the gospel has gone to the uttermost parts of the earth as I 1 have told you already and I 1 know not a people and hardly a nation but what it makes t 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