Show JOSEPH SMITHS SMITH S SECOND REPLY ILE HE declares pluran PLURAL MARRIAGE WRONG EVEN THOUGH IUS llis rather DID AND IT arl arz 0 zittle little fields logan logon utah sir there were no ordinances of washing and anno inting engaged in at the meeting at hla hir kirtland lind but bat the 11 spirit which 1 1 testifies that jesus Is ia tho the christ it wab was thore there and tile tiie peace that christ declared that ho he we would uld give to his disciples filled tho the hearts and controlled the minds of the wor shippers hip pers hav in your first you yon stated positively that hat there were those women in utah who had stated to me and my brother that thai they wore were wives to my father thia thit I 1 have shown to bo be uil untrue true it if your statement was correct would it not have been better to get one or marm mame of those women to nemmo the time dind and place where such buch statement was made there was no need for me to go to bait dike nake city to nind and p froot proof root roof if I 1 were under the necessity to receive universally accepted reports such gach dach reports are plentiful outside of salt snit like aike city and aro arc no better there than abroad if I 1 am to receive universally accepted reports job jos josrph joseph ph smith was a mountebank Brig brignac dam young a thief and an ah ab ettor of murder salt lako lake city a place where last and debauchery are at home and run riot you are too 11 shrewd to hold that I 1 am to be ba con laded eluded by accepted reports the reach of such reports la is too wide the effect upon not only utah and her men but upon the origin of the church and its founders too widespread wide spread and ruinous for you to insist upon such buch an acceptance acca acct my course in bait balt lake city was thle thib I 1 was upon tho the streets daily I 1 baw raw many of the tho men whom I 1 had seen when a boy I 1 was introduced by patriarch john smith to many 01 others herb hers ot lue luo citizens I 1 shunned no one I 1 declared publicly in the in a in answer to the tha question whether my father did or did not have a revelation commanding or permitting Ws hla elders to have more nan man than one ali wide wife that I 1 did not know that the evidences I 1 had so BD far received had failed to convince we me that he had that I 1 did not know whether he had or had not practiced p plural flural lural marriage that I 1 threw the burden of proof where it bo ba longed on those who affirmed that ho he had 1 tho the revelation and practiced the doctrine this thib was done otone publicly and there were members of your church present who heard hoard me the denial of john taylor at boulogne sur hur mer was coupled with the reading of of the artice on marriage then published in the tho doctrine and covenants but taken out by order 61 preste prest brigham young without a voie of the church in 1876 the intent with which it was read wab wag to ta deny the tho chargo charge of having in practice in utah a system by which men of the church had more wives with all that tho the namo name implies than one oae the language Jango age ago of tho the book is ia clear we declare that we believe that ene eno man should have one wife and one ona woman but one husband except in ease cate of death when either ia at liberty to mar marry marny ry again there Is ia no mistaking the denial of mr taylors Tayl tay lorb lors taken with the article artiola on marriage and it ia 13 conclusive clu ciu sive if at that time there was in op operation ration a bysom system by which men were marz marr married led lod or healed to women as wives other than the one ono legal wife of such n momentous character that I 1 am lighting fighting against truth in opposing that system mr taylor was guilty of hese nese falsehood hood technically mr taylors denial was true the law ol of tho chur church chis clis as ho he well knew was against him and his compeers com peers it allowed ot of no such marriages tho formula given in ia tho the law laws required the sanction of the tho marriages of the church to be glin in the tho name namo of the lord jesus christana chris Chrls tand stand by virtue of the law of the country J the tho reason given in the tha article on marriage for the tho declaration of baller la Is that inasmuch as this church of christ has been reproached with the crime of fornication and the crime of polygamy wo we declare 11 etc I 1 nn am thankful for your honesty in saying that the things of which the church was then accused were grut utterly opposed to its teachings I 1 thlen and my co workers coworkers li have ave been studio asly striving to show and every admission buch such as yours la Is in keeping luig with bur our position thad tao tae delav delay PI in ry my tather fethe r to declare A jama jamn sit Ja wa the principle plural marriage was and Is by you attributed to the consequence of the prejudices of the brethren and the persecution which he well knew he would have to encounter from the outside world wherein his life donld be endangered 11 I 1 to do not construe this language it is a plain declaration given as a reagon reabon reason why joseph smith did not make known the revelation jf if he had it was wag it for a like reason that brigham young took eight bight years and two months to get courage enough to make it known you did not bay eny that god comman commanded ded my father not to make mabe it known but that he delayed because ho he well knew that ills his jils life would be endangered Is not that cliar cular charging ging him impliedly with being afraid whence camo came the prejudices of the brethren what business bad had they to have prejudices against the woj w iti iri of the lord lora what gave rise to or created these prejudices I 1 was wab as elder joseph P F smith states attentive to what whai elder 0 pratt was sayin baying r in the discourse from which I 1 quoted I 1 med tried to conduct myself in a quiet orderly and respectful way I 1 took tooh notes of tile the entire bermon sermon ser eer morl moni and can give every important point in it amm notes made at bit the time 1 I was in tent to discover the talent and bent of tho the speaker and was equally intent to take stake advantage of any anything thing that might bo be said sald to the profit of myself and the cathe I 1 Is that a crime if so elder L 0 littlefield and every other elder ever evver sent out by the utah church including joeeph joseph F smith are guilty of 0 the bame same crime it la Is pre bisely what the latter has ilas done in so no sharply denying what I 1 asserted wits was said by elder 0 pratt respecting temples I 1 gave it as I 1 heard it from notes mode at the time and I 1 remember wondering if the at statement ate made would bo be noticed and their possible effect upon ma counteracted ter acted by thase those in charge of the meeting when told the next day that the sermon was preached for my benefit and asked 19 what do you think of it as the person wished to make mate report of my reply to admirers of mr parti I 1 replied that I 1 was pleased with it that I 1 had I 1 thought learned one thing and that tha wab waa that orb Ors oreon orz ozz pratt left to hime himself eif elf would tell the truth all I 1 have further to add Is hi this I 1 may have mistaken elder Pratt pratts words swords the desire dicov er any possible advantage may bave lave made me too critical tand jand nd perverted his meaning ate are elder josephi F smith and ube ibo athars who state that they did not hear such statement free from such part izan bla bia ali ayi ai he be seems beems to think troubled mes me le Is his memory of a bermon to which hib his attention may not before have been called binco sinco tile tiie day it was delivered likely to be ba any ady clearer of defect because of freedom free Jom from undue seal zeal for hib his cause than mine the question of veracity may rest here how much better la Is your pie against tho the meeting at Kir and those who met th there ere ore and y your 0 ur defence of the temples you are building in utah is the statement of joseph F smith As aa to what elder pratt did bay say that the temple which we are building in salt lake city was not the temple on which wa expected the twe cloud would aou d rest reet nor did we expect thebe glorious events to transpire in any of the temples which we wa were new building or would build in utah buti buts but that the temple in which these promises should be fulfilled should yet bo be built in jackson county missouri and that not all that were jiving living in 1832 should pass away until that temple should be built etc etc some one of those present will remember that after the services cervices eer ber vices I 1 met elder eider pratt with two or three others and N was presented to him on the tho street near to the meeting houfe and remarked to him that having been born near the close of 1832 1 I could hope to be one cne of those that might be living when the the temple to which ho he had referred should bo be built to this he replied that to have a part in it would depend on qualifications as aa well as age Is this allio also a mistake of memory tho question between us Is the one of plurality of wives Is the doctrine doo doc trine trino and tho the practice in accordance with the tha prin principles c 1 le of the church of christ as s such buch u e ph p principles were revealed and eald church founded by joseph smith this thib question la Is not decided by the statement ata that joseph smith taught and practiced such doctrine or one similar to it in secret nor non am I 1 concluded as a heretic and a fighter against god or hia hla word words when it Is proven that he dl creely to teach tench to a few chosen ones and secretly eo ea practice the elders used to teach that thai it if our forefathers or our fathers did once carry their corn to mill in one end of the bag with a atone in the other end to balance lt it it was no reason that wo should do the bame same that we were yere to yo jio our own thinking and whatever of doctrine wab was not jn in accord with thil the word ad of god we were to discard just jast so 60 the bible gives the origin of the of marage thue and the tha rib which the ha lord urd god had taken from many man mau made to be a woman and brought her unto man I 1 be bereford her hem emore etore shall shail a man leavo navo his father and his gothar and cente cento unto his hia ile lle and arid they shall ba ono one flesh in the history of the tha ivo ilfe and acid generation of adam as given in gen there ja in nu no hint or reference Yee fee rence to but the one companion one woman one affa for him seems to have referred to it in the language of the and 15 h verbus versus of his second chapter yet she bho Is thy companion corn fanlou alid and the tho wife of thy covenant and ild iid did ltd not bo mike inako one oae yet had bad he ha the tha residua orthe or the spirit and one tb tbt at he be might geek seek a godly beed seed od lamech departed from this thib rule and took tw twy i wivel lve ive ivo hind bind bo be became a amur murdel deio delo e the comm inda ent to nosh noah wab was vv ALI competed comp cemp etes 1 n I the saving of the means hy which the earth waa was to be re peopled noah and his hta thrle three sons bons and one wife each bachno yio more the new testament shows shown a full endorsement of thi by christ foz eor this cause shall a man leave father and ra mother other and shall weave unto his vrue u ani they twain abdill be ba one oue flesh m Mattl matti apt art t ei oll oil an mark 1 0 8 E dpn p h th gal 31 the book nook of mormon history shows that thu when lehi and his family leit jett their land at the he command of god they went out pre prepared pared lared to keep his command lehi and hib his sons bons and zoram having one wife each and that only here are three occasions when god has hns proposed to people or re people a land twice the earth and once a distant land from the tha old oid world and cacti each time he shows the pattern to be one ono man one woman one huh huk husband bands one afe twain and twain twala only one flesh the lord stated to ezra thayer and northrop sweet october 1830 that the book of mormon and the holy scriptures were given for the instruction of h his bis Is people D 13 0 13 p liverpool edition 1854 in section 2 of the bame same work the lord states that the tha book of mormon contains con tama the ot the gospel of jesus jeanv christ t to 0 the gentiles and to the jews also which wats wail given by inspiration in section 4 paragraph 8 it is do mared oared that became because of light treatment of things that had been re calved condemnation rested upon the church tho the language is as follows and this condemnation leateth urion the c children hildren of zons 2 on even all and they hall hali remain under this 0 nation until they r repent W ut and remember the new covenant even tb the book ot of mormon and the former co commandments m mand ments which I 1 have given them not only to say sat but to do according accord lu to that which I 1 have written that they may bring brine lonh fruit meto eto ete for their fathers kingdom othera w wis there rem nem aineth a a 9 bourge and a J judy edg mol mor jtb to bo cured out upon the children of zion zinn for shall the children of the kingdom pollute my holy fand land vernly verily I 1 say aay unto ou zay gay nay liverpool edition the date ot of the revelation from which this la Js quoted is ia given as september 1832 going back to find some bome of tho the former command ments we discover the following is rhou rhou rhon ehalt love thy wife with all thy hert and shaft ehalt cleave unto her and n none one else elder eider orson pratt prati stated in a discourse delivered in the tabernacle aole aele at salt bait lake city october 1869 which was waa published la jj pamphlet form in the early earl eari rise of this church february 1831 god gave a commandment to its wherein he says thou ehalt love thy wife with all thy heart and cleave unto her and none else it was given in 1831 when the one wife t system prevailed among this people in mareb march word of the lord came through tho the bame man and la Is as follows and agan again I 1 my gay unto jou you that whoso choso for birdeth to marry Is not ordained of gods god for marri marriage danlag ase aso e is ij ordained ol of god wherefore ton por tor for this reason it is lawful that he should have one wiro wite and they twain shall shail be one flesh and all this that the earth might answer the end of its creation and that it t be filled with the measure of man accordine according to its creation before the worm world wal vaa these aro are the former commandments the disregard of which brought condemn condemnation ationo the fact that the revel nevel revelation Atlon was given to men about to visit the which body forbade to castry does abes not prove that what la Is r healed Is not to be taken in universal verral verr al lense sense and it is simply astonishing toni shing that you can so eo glibly dispose of its provisions it is lawful that he shall have one wife and they twain can you make more than one out of this lawful provision the revelation was given to the elders to go and preach to men who did not bellevo believe in marriage in preparing them god declares two facts one la Is that marriaga marriage was or bained of him the other that it is ia lawful for man to have one wife this is qualified quail nod ned and made plain EO that no one not blinded can fall fail to see by the word bordo sand band and they twain I 1 the man and his hla one wife grei 1113 hall hali be one flesh the men to whom it came so BO understood der stood lio iio i so bo will any one to whom the book is handed upon whom horn born the blindness has hits not come by reason reabon of having treated the commandments lightly farther than thia this the same revelation warrants ue mop belief that such was the order |