Show ROCKEFELLER RO C GETS THROUGH AND VANISHES Incidentally a Clerk Helps the Oil Magnate Elude a Process Server ARCHBOLD FOLLOWS HIS CHIEF ON STAND WHOLE STORY OF STANDARD MANIPULATIONS GRADUALLY BEING DRAWN OUT 4 4 4 0 O Nov Nor Xo rigid e was vas started tolay to Iran If Ie possible what became of o certain records now wanted by b 0 e Frank B Kellogg who wIp represents if government In the present I Standard Oil hearing h at New York r These E records are said aId td to be mIst 0 I r Ing from Crom the files at the county 0 office I New Nev York Tork Nov ov 24 Closing hi his test nony today toda in the federal suit to dis dissolve solve sole the Standard Oil company John JohnD D Rockefeller feller threw sump some unexpected ight on the popular question into what harneN r f investment flowed his tre earnings from rein the oil combination tion tio Mr Ir Rockefeller HO was loath to state t h n nan DU if f the railroads ra in which his h were made but did lid so after 0 n his objection The head of or the thc called oil trust declared that his 1 aiding Idin In railroads consisted chiefly n r bonds bond and that with the exception ff f c a few ft w roads in which he held only amounts of socks shocks he preferred the bonds as a a a form fonn of or Investment Mr 11 rockefellers appearance on the wit witness ness stand today will wUl likely be his last in any court proceeding He fIe greatly delighted that his hl long ordeal s a witness was over oer and hurriedly ln ft rt the room when counsel coun l excused d him Stocks in fn Railroads Mr Ir Rockefeller said he did not think that he hp shoud sou be bp made to tell the form fonn of or investments Ir the gen geri gentlemen en tiemen oscr oer there here In n the t tI stock exchange might not think if it very f fy wise wi e After some legal mention by OlIn coun KI tI el Mr 11 said he held stock 1 the West Western Jc ern the t New Xe York Y rk Central the Penn the me Western estern Maryland the tile MIsSouri I url the Texas Teras Pacific Pac c ari the ie Colorado Southern He said aid sa d lie he fl eJ ther Uie tlc fir or l Pacific Mr Ir R k feller said aid he lie wa to keeping r C M f millions of or dollars of or surplus by b the Standard Archbold on the Stand John D B Archbold vice president of the Standard proved a mine of detailed formation under the direction of tile the counsel regarding rC the early production of oC crude oil and the develop ment of the pipe line system Mr Ur will likely be bl on the witness stand for several days la s He gave gae his answers In a short brisk manner and Denied Fremed possessed po I of infinite details of t IP e Standards business from Its neep tion to the present time Mr 11 Archbold beamed with ton tion In telling of the Standards early earl His eyes twinkled when hen he hI told tild of or the th industrial fights saying that e I kept close clo watch on fin his competitor and aid then tried to beat him Fairly Fairl hort of or stature Mr Ir w well ll knit figure fi lre was waR of compelling anima t on as H he sat in the witness chair He turned from side to side as if to watch ea h Individual spectator in the room room and Ind every eer line of his Ills face ace showed that he was keenly alive alle 10 to every development of the proceedings proceeding It is not unlikely that an adjourn nent will be taken tomorrow night Monday Dodged Process Server There Thre was a lively scene in the cor corr coror corTor r Tor lor of or the customs house houe as Mr Rock Rok RO k ller kr was leaving the building at lIlA of his hl testimony late today toda V process server tried to thrust a si sub lub subena ena na Into the hands of the Standard n 1 heed head but a la law clerk a Continued on Page 2 t ROCKEFELLER GETS THROUGH AND VANISHES Continued from Page 1 Mr Rockefeller saw his purpose and ani before the subpoena could be 0 served he le pushed Mr Sir Rockefeller Into an elevator The elevator shot downward downward carrying caring Mr Ir Rockefeller out of the mans mang manS reach The process server ferver hurried to the street street but had disappeared The Theman Theman Theman man would not not say whether the suit In which w he wished to subpoena Mr Rock Rockefeller was a civil civi action or one con connected cn connected with wih the present case Rockefeller Was Late For Forthe Ah the first time since he has been beu on the witness stand hearing Mr Ir Rockefeller was wa as a little late In arriving arvIng today Frank B Kellogg the Kelogg govern governments governments ments special assistant attorney ments gen general general eral resumed his taking up the organization of the Standard Oil 01 company of New Jersey ersey where he ended ende It yesterday Mr Kel Kellogg Kellogg Kellogg logg read what he said sid was wasa a a list or of stocks obtained by b that company In 1899 for which It I had exchanged Its own pw shares He Hc said that out of a total ot or shares first Issued were in the name of ot John D Rockefeller Mr lr Rockefeller said he did not own so much stock as that that but did own 54 shares of the Standard Oil 01 company of New Jersey at that time and that he be accept accepted ed the other stock and distributed It to e the proper stockholders He added that frequently frequent holders of certificates of the Standard Oil trust exchanged them for forstock forstock forstock stock In the Standard Oil 01 company of or New Now Jersey rather than accept shares share of the various subsidiary companies I turned over my trust certificates to tho liquidating trustees said Mr Rockefeller and obtained a paper on on which I secured shares in the con constituent constituent companies which I turned ture In Into Into into to the Standard Oil 01 company of New Jersey J erse Mr Ir Rockefeller declared that he lie never acted as an a attorney for any one on In this process of ot liquidation Mr Kellogg stated that Henry M 1 Flagler at at first firt received 2800 shares and later shares additional Mr r Rockefeller said he thought Mr Flagler did not own any such sch amount of stock but he could not say sy whether he accept accepted ed it for purposes of distribution Memory Again Faulty Fauly Mr Ir Rockefeller was asked aked if It he en entered entered entered a contract with Schofield mer and Teagle In 1876 whereby the firm fir agreed to limit limi the business of ot Its Is re refinery re refinery finery finer In consideration of certain certin pay payments pa payments ments ment by the Standard Mr Rockefeller replied that such a contract had been entered enter d Into but he lie did not recall Its pro provisions pro provisions visions Did Dd the Standard bring a a suit in Ohio in 1550 18 against Schofield Teagle to prevent Its It refining over 8 O barrels of crude oil oU a year and to pre prevent prevent prevent vent its It acquiring an Interest In a But Hu Buffalo falo lab refinery There was some litigation about the refining of wa oil 01 I 1 recall recal nothing about the Buffalo refinery renner Did you not personally make an ap application application for an order restraining them from exceeding their production limit and to prevent them building a refinery In Buffalo As president bf f the Standard Oil on com coin company company pany It was proper for me rae to sign sig such an affidavit about about the production of oil al being exceeded by the company Dont you recall that in the answer of Schofield Teagle they set setup setup setup up the claims that the Standard was try tryIng tr trying Ing to obtain a monopoly of the refining business In Ohio and that that this agreement was wa part of ot the th conspiracy to such an end endI I r could not state from my recollection recollection tion but could I assume aume that they probably aid Od not ton fall taU to say everything they could think think Mr Ir Rockefeller was told t ld that Virgil P Kline who afterward had been a Stand Standard Standard Standard ard OH Oil 01 attorney e was then counsel for Schofield Teagle Teagle Well Vell Vei they had a very capable attorney ator attorney ney ne said Mr r Rockefeller The Last Affidavit The witness said sid In reply to other ques questions questions that a similar contract was made with wih tons the Pioneer OH on company but he could not nob remember whether he stated state In Inthe Inthe inthe the contract that the Standard operated refineries only In Cleveland and Bayonne He le understood he said that he made an affidavit in connection with this contract to the effect that the Standard OH Oil 01 com corn company company pany of Ohio had bad not owned any stock of any railroads or pipe line lne You were trying to give gie the Impression Impre impression sion at that time that the large number of ot companies companie you had acquired an In Interest Interest terest In were not controlled by the tle Standard Oil 01 company compan of ot Ohio I tried tied to give the status at that time Mr r Kellogg Kelogg asked the winess witness If I he had made It known to any anyone one at that time that he had an Interest In the com corn companies companies Included in the trust agreement of o 18 and if It was not a fact tact that this agreement was kept secret while he was wa combining the companies I r cannot say s but I think It I must have been ben known to a a number of people out outside outside side Rockefeller of those who signed It I replied Mr Is It not a fact fat that Mr r Archbold Mr 11 Flagler and others In 1875 1575 and later made affidavits and public statement that the Standard Oil 01 company of ot Ohio had llad no Interest In these subsidiary companies I 1 cannot say anything about state statements statements ments ment they th y have made made Failed to Remember Mr Ir Rockefeller was asked If It he lie had hadnot hadnot hadnot not made an affidavit that the Standard had made contract contracts with railroads where whereby where whereby by the Standard had obtained rebates for guaranteeing a certain cern volume of ot oil 01 He i did not nor recall ren i the officers and agents of the Standard Oil 01 company compan of 0 Ohio at that time control a majority of ot the stocks stock of or orthe the subsidiary companies compa ie with the Idea of concealing their real rel ownership jl It I may have hae been that the properties were owned by Individuals who were stockholders In the Standard Oil Oi com company company company pany of Ohio Mr Rockefeller said that he never heard of the General International De Development Development Development syndicate limited of London nor did he know whether the Standard owns the Manhattan OH Oil 01 company of Ohio Mr Ir Kellogg asked aked Mr Ir Rockefeller to find out who owns those companies and also the London Commercial Printing Investment company and the Security Oil 01 company of Texas Texa compan Counsel for tor the Standard Oil on company offered oferd to furnish this and also a list of ot corporations obtained by the Standard from troI 18 to the present time Railroad Holdings said Mr Rockefeller in reply to a question queston saidI 1 I may be a director In some railroads In the tho United States but at this ti moment I do not recall rel a railroad In which I am ama a director Are you largely Interested In railroads Oil on Is over which the Standard company doing business I r am an Investor I may have stock In a railroad company over which oil 01 shipments may be made shipment mae Mr Kellogg asked aked Mr Rockefeller If it I ithe he was not Interested in Wisconsin and ad certain directors director other railroads In which cerain torn tors tor of ot the Standard Oil on were also di dl directors directors rectors I own ow bonds In the Wisconsin rail rall rl railroads roads Were you Interested In the stocks and bonds of ot the Pennsylvania No excepting ab at different times time a asal small Interest In the te bonds I 1 may ma have hae sal considerable Interest In the bonds bonds My M Mst stock stack st ck holdings holding are Inconsiderable Inconsiderable I presume I may have stock In six or eight railroad corporations My Iy holdings holding I are principally in the bonds I I Can you name the railroads I i I r would prefer not to mention the I 1 railroads ads Th These se e goodly gool gentlemen at the I stock exchange over there ther would pot not think It very wise Oer I personally should not care cre to c parade my Interests unless It ItIs ItI itIs Is I tice necessary to further m the te cause of at jus justice Mr Ir Kellogg t told ld Mr Rockefeller that he could prepare a list for submission Mr Rockefeller said that many man stock stockholders stockholders stockholders holders of the Standard had taken Inter Interests interests ests et In railroads and that his brother Wil WH William liam ment lam had preferred this form for of Invest Investment Wall Wal Street Loans Mr r Rockefeller was asked about bout the large amounts amount of mone money which the Stand Standard Stad Standard ard had loaned in Wall Val street and he re replied plied that the Standard could not al always always ways was obtain the amount of money mone It re required re required from banking Interests Interest and that of necessity H it I kept kept a a large amount of or money which It loaned loane out out but which could always be obtained He understood that the company loaned out about abut 32 00 but no larger sum than that that Mr Kellogg Kelogg reverted to the question of ofIr Mr Ir Rockefellers Investments in railroads at the present time Objection was made by counsel coun el and Mr Ir Rockefeller said he could not give ve a statement about his holdings holding of ot bonds He added I do not buy stocks and per permanently permanently manenty hold them as I do the bonds I have pave no large holdings in railroad shares today except In two or three railroads They are held for investment Some of the shares are the Delaware Lackawanna Western ester the New York Central the Pennsylvania Western Maryland Mar land Mis Missouri Missouri MISsouri Pacific and a railroad in Mexico I j have no shares In the New York New NewHaven Haven Hartford none In I the Union Pa Pacific PaCific cic and none in the Southern Souther Pacific I 1 have a few Pacific shares share In the tle Texas and Colorado Southern Souther about 5 shares and Erie first frt preferred Are you ou not generally Interested in all al the railroads of the country countr I r am grateful to say a good goo many of them ther I did not Invest In There have hae been beena a good many enterprises which I was wa not privileged to Invest in Recess was then taken taen for luncheon End of Examination At the afternoon session Mr Ir Kellogg asked aked Mr Rockefeller If he purchased Kelogg bonds of the principal railroad companies or subsidiaries during the last ten years Mr Rockefeller replied that he had You lou cant give e their names It I would be utterly impossible Impossible This ended Mr Rockefellers On redirect examination Mr Milburn lIburn asked Have you OU ever at at any time sought to Influence any an railroad with wih respect to Its It rates or supplies with reference to the Standard Oil company I 1 have hae not As far tar as I know none of f my associates have eve eves ever done so This ended the redirect examination At this point Mr Milburn sald to the witness that he was excused Must I go goT asked Mr Rockefeller You lou are not compelled to go but you ou are through said Mr Ir Milburn lburn Mr Ir Rockefeller then left lef the room room Mr Kellogg Kelogg reserved the right to cross examine ex Mr Ir Rockefeller later If he de desired desIre desired sired sIre John D Archbold vice president of the Standard OH on company of or New Jersey Jerse was then called caled Mr r Archbold said that the Standard did I not arbitrarily fix the price paid for crude oil 01 The law law of ot supply and demand the qualities of oil 01 produced both In this coun try tr and throughout the world together with the various amounts produced daily daly all were considered in fixing the price of crude oil said |