Show THE REPLY of mosell moe thatcher to anotle snoa enoi letter continued from last week but my vote was waa Pin cere and so rr it was a year later when the authorities nod and saints of tile the church in conference pledged themselves as individuals and as a people to this government that tile nien members ibers of their church should bi be un tin trammeled ram meled sn in all civil concerns when il as declared that there was no foundation found or excuse for the statement that church and state were united in utah or that the leaders of the church dictated to tile the members in political matters slid mid that whatever appearance pe arance of cli church domination there inist have been in the p nothing of tle me kind nouli bo be at in the future I 1 sincer ly believed in these arati ns nod ibe subsequent official declarations lela rations of the authorities of 0 t alie lie church on oil this subject on the day d ay iy of barcli 1892 the first presidency of 0 the church decla declare over their official sign signatures atutes we havu have no deecie to in in thee 3 political matters but ut proclaim lahn that chatas as far ar as wo are concerned tile the inen ibers of this church are entirely arid and per estly irre free in nil all political matters in a le bealim alini alim edi orial the deseret evening news reaffirmed tile the poi ion of the llie authorities as stated in their public declarations Idela rations arid and added the bublie rul ilir howe however er inu must inua A not exp eap ct that a leiding leading church man shall beine b eine a political annuch becart be of his ecclesiastical position tion lie ile is ia as aj much a citizen us its iche if hen nere ere a layman oran or an infidel and th dieas expressed eed by the first pr sidney sid ney ncy in the celebrated nimeh interview must bear a portion of the re rc for the s eo BO thor hughly rounded grounded in me I 1 call your at te it io n to the following from the answers carefully careful lv vre prepared pared by them does tile the church claim the right rii ht to dictate to its members in political matters mattera the church does nut not claim any such r rubt gil t 11 that being true are vi e to understand that the church will nut not assert any right to control ue the political action of its in that is what we wish to convey ned have you understand As officers of tile he church we the right to cantril I 1 the political action of the bemb rs of thir our boily body do you vou bel eve eva it is the wish of the mormon people to unite with the great ial parties and ti conduct politics in this im ory as they ah abw conducted in in other it ite that is the impression we have bave re reined ironi conversation with the men among ui who talc tile greatest interi interest ft in a matter Is there any reason why the bembera nf lif tile llie church should not act freely with the the nati national ocial parties at all times wo we know of no reason why they sho should ild no Is there adv foun foundation datin for the charge that the maimon leaders aro ar now enga faed cd ina in a conspiracy to secure political ital power for the church anre is not the least ground lor for any Futh statement we are not engorged in atay conspiracy of this character the tha opponents of party divi division gion on 1 atonal ra tonal lins lin s declare that they want evi bence or 01 the sincerity of the mormon the times would you to stat whether hether the declarations ol of ein bority on the part pan of chosa Iari erh who have been before the public refit ets your A v aws an aal aol meet witti your approval eliote decorations rations express our vie 8 a aid ad d hae bae our entire approval what greater evidence can be ba askel aske I 1 than that which has alread been given ildas ilhas it has been asserted ass wied in addition that tile people beope were vere io governed verned by tile the priesthood prie pries bood in political matters T this his is nw disproved by the dissolution ot of the peoples party and alid the union of its tri embers with tile the two national parties what could pos possibly Silly be gai gained ned by the adion action ol of the people if they viere era not sincere it if the elA elements ments of sincerity were wanting sinh a movement woul boull 1 result in attire if I 1 could have looke I 1 upon tipon these grave and solemn declarations diff bently I 1 might have been spared the pain and humiliation following my failure to sign what you eay has aiwas always bem been a doctrin i of the church if tins this were well established and gener generally tilly understood to be a doctrine of the 11 was war not ti li relEs oance in documentary flam arm cholly unnecessary you ask why should moses thatcher alone of all the authorities feel el that 1 le e coald not sin it as ai he fie ditl m iti out was not licit that in itself evidence evid enc that lie was wag and had been out of 0 aarnio harmony ny with his brethren andare anil are they not men us Ps little disposed as tiny one olle living 10 0 stultify themselves or to agent ag as ent to anything wrong that is is of vital importance to thern them an aal I 1 to ilie ibe church I 1 could not eign that manifesto because I 1 iliad endorsed endo reed tie others quoted quo teil arid beca because tise I 1 could not reconcile this lost last one with laith those made by bv file leaders and ecal ecclesiastical super or ors a between 1890 and the date of sion into the union I 1 must be per mittel teil to suggest that my lellow fellow mem bera of the quorum to I 1 ot 0 ce belonged cau call delane better than any en cn else their views of right and wrong and bleir ideas of what constitutes still stultification tifilca 11 but like ni myself they are subject et to human wak weaknesses nesses and human errors AI stu students lents of history each citizen must determine how loni lon L any people can prosper under the practice of punic f faith aith secretly carried into effect and openly avowed anti and executed the declarations of perfect political free biorn to all tile the saints are just as binding today to nay day its as they were before we obtained 1 find and it is the duty duly of f very every citizen of utah to so regard n anti and no hiving shown by quota cons t ons fronk roii unquestioned authoritative sources why I 1 could not without stultification fi s agn the political manifesto I 1 am balind to stand where counsel and constien cn have place i ins ine for with other citizens of utah I 1 am bidden to attach myself to the party of my thoice and then I 1 e true ti that party 11 while doing that I 1 have constantly to show every proper occasion that respect anti and honor due my ecclesiastical superiors I 1 hud had thought that there was room in utah ai elsewhere for a citizen to do his hi i whole hole duty to tile stale without interfering leT fering in the leat degree thith his obligations to the church of which lie inight be a member obese views pecking re nonunion non union of church arid and state are those I 1 have held and openly advocated for or morn enort than a quarter of a century K R cent occurrences bences have shave intensified rather thou modified thern them arid I 1 now compre liend better than man heretofore the lie expressed in that purt part 0 our state stale relating to the ab absolute clute separation of f civil and religious iou matters anil and while the stat is bound to protect the church in the fill possibly pos religious freedom the church not attempt directly or indirectly indirect lv to dominate in civil or political affairs fairs nf As latter laiter day dav saint ne are doubly bound to 10 take cognizance of this loyalty to the govern government went pr electing us demands it and the ilie law 0 th lord requires it I 1 quote from see sec 58 para 21 page bool book of doctrine and covenants let no man mail break the law of the land for or lie he that keeneth the laws oi of iod god bath no need to break the laws of the land again from see sec 98 pirus paras 4 to 9 inclusive clu sive page and now verily I 1 say unto 3 ou on concerning the laws a s of the land il is ii my will than my people should observe to do all th Ns whatsoever hat I 1 command them and that tile law of the land is ia constitutional supporting that principle of freedom in maintaining rights ani privileges belruss to all mankind and is justifiable before me therefore I 1 the lord justify an oil ani ami your brethren of my church in befriending that law chic it ir 44 the constitutional law of n the land and as perta pertaining pertain inina mi to the law of man whatsoever is more or less than these cenieth ot of evil 1 I the lord god make you free therefore you are free indeed and the law ulso also anak eth yon free nevertheless when the wicked rule tile people mourn there it is no room here for comment it holds tile me in tile warp and bof of liberty and love woven in the lie al might ys loom of truth and justice planting my feet upon thit that divinely inspired platform and laying upon its altar honor fortune and if necessary life itself I 1 look anxiously but hopefully forwar forwark for warl I to lo the day when petty jealous envious hatred and malicious mili cirius accusations shall be deeply buried benea mountains of apac prosperity penty and hap pincas resting permanent per permanently manen aly in utah upon the nida A ide toleration tin n arid and good will of her inhabitants towards all creeds anti and classes throughout all tile the world should I 1 live to witness ono one such day ibay the 10 1 e ginning of a series that shall not end the memory of pains affliction t ti ars and sighs shall pass even as a dream at the dawn oi of a new jav pioneers the aged anti and venerable bravo brave sons bons and daughters deserve such much a hippy and what is there in ill human bequir mont ment or divine divina injunction to prevent lie ine frum humbly trying to devote the remainder of my iny days daya to thu the cause canse in ill which I 1 hava bave spent nearly 40 years it is true there are some of t the he stakes in zion whose god people as you state I 1 have never visited at their homes but it is ia equally true that thai nearly half balf my time since I 1 became it a member of the c church las b hen ben en spent upon mission nj of various kinds during a period of six years I 1 1 crossed brosi tle the line into mexico soine 23 2 times and for quite a long period my anneal travels bovere coverer I 1 fro from m to miles a year thera are I 1 believe some 0 the members of the quorum to which I 1 once had the honor of b longing who have never to my my knowl knowledge edgo been on a mission at all but I 1 would not inter infer from froin that that they had neglected the duties of their calling to be concluded next week |