Show POLITICS VS SCIENCE FOIL FOB PUBLIC LANDS ogden utah I 1 i uary miary ath at the meeting ol of tin tilt ociell ot of american foral is las birk I irk k anderson pr the utah conservation Berv atlon ab ocial ii stated that the stockmen Eloc stoc kmen must saye save themselves and the In Indu dusti by co operating with rather diun opposing the expert oth them the hii 1 a either be ci bushed by bubli or exhaust the re sour s fon inch they depend lie ile brought out that there are bemb to ni tile the sportsmens sports mens associations ahll hil there are only or ito toi nun mn in tie ne state J ill deu edt 1 l of the utah catl ind and Jorse growers As socia timi 1 by saying that the sami ganic interests had never present fd ed rt it ot or tie controversy be tween gi t iiii inq and game but had ha leit alezi the fai at t service to carry their load betor i nate investigative coin cittee HL stated that sportsmen are often inclined to think that by b paying ft oo HO to the state for a gam e i license th ire are entitled to taki take sole poe son ion of a stock mall sr ranch anch in which hi hc hs invested heavily mr ilir ajdei n states that L 11 nine ten ot of ia iiii 1 bible the I 1 he forest service has is dai it to the general difficulty difficult ot of making science mid ind politics mix in III pub 1 r laud land management nana naiia gement gemen one on should fiam facts to policy while th politicians work from pol icy to facts the scientist rests his hi case upon while the politician r t is his I ie ase e upon exhortation sv 81 dking 0 the ardent ad docatis if toi ene ri lits mr ander son d 1114 i in government la Is treated filo t ligh it is something foreign a ri mil a I 1 of us while as a in mi i nt t tact state lines and artIf IVILl ithiers i n ins in s 11 11 less today to day than in i i u in III hi ono one cares little about si tate ite lin 1 he speeds over F ds d i i I 1 high ii 11 states rights wert wen ctr curried carried ried 0 11 lel conclusion in the avat 11 i r would be no iio farther federal did project w iri i i mals ur or in the m co binm work yet to bs b aci ac amplis 1 i i in the re chimal 1011 of i the i knur bay country tor for oin ii water foi winch which i i L ut lit it apron lm atil i toad ali state r I 1 L idao show us the i hc local I 1 ailment is more ith afi it 11 it in tl iiii jigs than the FederL Fe deril 1 loren fit and nd that we weara ap nol nii 1 i t iiii ington tun today than N NN mie i e I 1 aitu capitol 25 yeat year ago lamorder la order to brad it 11 i him haim between po ilic and 9 1 I L u in thle the management manag ment 01 our puli ll 11 lands in utah a non political is necessary eBsary madi mad up ud c i i 1 pr ot of wild elti i inser in ill ts stock men j s decre ioni nin iii L municipal wat wit rl rUd i pir and lumbermen otho i a continuous lial til fight will result f in injustice to on or all tte inhere interests ti involved 11 anderen anderaon Ande naon sat said that forage aa w anvil is otier public land be put upon a sustained yield aisis granting something to ELL all LuL LIeSt leiata duvol involved ved until the CUD cu ini mission SiOU idea Is made tu the forest service will have to sev se v as a great balancing age agency in equalizing the difference differ differt tace nce between thi th uhei ot of our various national raoui i L lie he stated that all that the wild life interests ask is aa that this existing exi sling resource be ilven given place in hi un but not to the exclusion of 0 all other interests lie he mentioned clu right eight or nine million acres which live now coming to the state under the jones s bill but judging from thi the past admi norte ration ot of state land tilee will be no intel land and no conservation serva tiou or up building of the natural resources reso on this nine alne million acres acre a speaking of the function of the for it 8 vii v e he said that its work would be judged not by its success as politician but by cheth whether or n not 0 t it F had prop rl protected a and ul secured waa a 1 in ainu of the tha public re soul i large pre ilni then discussed th tb o s attitude i toward the foreia foreit recalling the old days when whan the flie service first started and io i Didis tun n t bight thuy they were supposed to say I 1 yes st sn 11 and it you pie wh a dd in IHK goverd ment officials but 11 hotter better relations ehst and the finans dikmans Dik ki maus nans attitude tow ird foiest oell an fn 1109 is one ot of ranH ni ind and s i ii i hat he be says what he filiks w wi I 1 I 1 i fear par of its causing r i ittin ent u ui I 1 rt arlane stilted stated that a hile bile t t i t i officers life wat wa one mid ind r b h belle il a I 1 i bill uch itch a life A I 1 K od to ITO it brought hi in in touch with ith natan and iii an outa ds di lop ed cd horai i i I 1 ho T said that stock nien beti it il iii mi in wilh bame wate wali h 1 a I t i in ill in I 1 amber int ta ill at ill in i t i 1 i 11 port nian man had not I 1 i iti d th ri slits t i sto ico smi m CIO H in im ionea continued to back page POLITICS VS SCIENCE FOR PUBLIC LANDS continued to page tive five instances ot of sportsmen entering a inch leaving the gates open shooting cattle and stealing chickens A lively discussion followed cis is here were several sportsmen pre present sent 1 bruerton E ot of the weber cou coun y fish and game association haid baid hat the sportsmens sports mens organization aas A as conducting an educational campaign teaching its members to re hect he rights ot of ranchers and even arcing the responsible parties parading under the name ot of sportsmen 0 make good the damage they had bad done to ranchers district forester R H rutledge called attention to the extent ot of this intermountain forest district which oes to grand canyon in arizona on jie die south to the salmon river on the north it Is comprised ot of acres on which are cattle and head ot of sheep on this same area grazed by stock are are enormous 0 in 0 us numbers ot of game and aj cil tri ot f the eni entire tire area la is covered by game preserves on these game preserves razing grazing Is n not excluded but is axt with game interests he mentioned that there using those forests and on t top op ot of this same abea aiea area again there are 38 billion feet of 0 timber which has to be managed |