Show DAY of ih w bitty 1 1 M 0 r TITOR fEI I 1 debate on the power of ja I 1 C U T I 1 V L mr allen says we are ly property I 1 BILL from the house committee on analysts of the terri torys editorial kpa clatto ane SALT feb 6 18 mr allen liberal member of the 11 ouse made a se t speech today to day ur on the subject of the executive right I 1 to appoint officers under ilia terril government bf virtue of tile ro conferred upon the governor in section 7 of the organic act tile measure under discussion was bunds lunds school bill to se altion 2 of which allen had offered an aboa amoa di ment to make the directors appointive by ills excellency instead of elective by the joint vote of both hoodes richards of weber was the last previous il leaker on the question delav cring on friday last a strong eloquent and logical argument against the proposed amendment and in favor of retention of a power by the people which was legally and equitably theirs today to day before allens closing the previous question was moved by but the latter gentleman at the requel of richards withdrew big motion in order that aalon who claimed the floor might have the opportunity 10 lo reply to thurman and richards I 1 allen attacked with some bittern mg the views expressed by his opponents but his speech was largely a political Ioli declaration decla ratton instead of being a con vinci g argument is a very bright talker a man of evident cul tare and strength ile is much more in his invective wart in logic ile to arraign richards for the lat latars statement that the gov emor is the legislative assembly to recognize his power allen main ta ining that richards was in error as I 1 the only to the subject in the governors nicosa go was in ilia paragraph headed executive prerogative and reading as follows I 1 the policy of the past the outgrow tl of IL system for its object the absorption by the dominant 4 element of all power had led to a con giant encroachment upon the tive of the execl live and no opportunity has been lost to curtail and restrict ilia power to such an extent has this been carried that la s contrary to and in conil act with the ora anic act have been enacted 11 I 1 n ilia clouding of titles t I 1 office n I 1 macinic them tile subject of contest in the courts legislation of such character I 1 let only il liberal but unwire harmony aal strife in all cases where the title to public office can reasonably he subject of dis to by reason of the conflict of le as dative u enactment ith the or ganic act the tem ou ht to be re pealed and awne of a like kind attempted in the future offered no objection to this gross misstatement it was too palpably absurd to require refutation upon the identical paize from which alln reada the governor continues tha same subject as follows tile italics own yon are familiar with the bill that used by such a strong vote the of of the last congress n aich if it had become a laly would have deprived the people of tile privilege of electia niest niost 61 their of fibers the bill w j lich did become I 1 law makes probate judges appoint ve by the president you ore nat igor at of fike fact that iedy in th new congress bills are pt t f e ode int t trill zide f r the a P of certain other caes and I 1 will regu late the time and mode of the election of officers in salt aake city different from that now fixed by our laws before those facts Is it not well to pause and consider as depre sent aties of ilia peo what you ought to do permit me to advise and becom mend a bold and a course though not an inconsiderate and unwise one 1 ebare introduce a ld pass Is didenti cal with those now before ihus the purposed pr posed 0 f aliat body em 2 ize your proclamation of dis enthrall me nt give assurance of your desire and pur into line and e to 1 put alis liar m ony with the balance of the I 1 such bou fwise action upon country s tile at your part would attract and secure ot the COI antry its and approval no could be even evidence striking in 0 ro of abandonment of the exclusive I 1 your be tile be it would cipf the post filid the demolition of in n ing of the herp and now e w all of partition carry tile territory Terri tor further upon its way t 0 statehood talan all the elique all d efforts of those noff engaged in its aa give new it To CiLcy of the arri ity to the growing confidence to those who I 1 tory bave invested capitala capi and en courage an invite who are looking and walting to come to Us this course you should take tha t you and tho honest to our country abc i thrifty industrious people whom ido are tot in 00 erpf f 0 aps vps jha I 1 1 I 1 1 I I 1 14 1 ahus tan 6 seneh motives and ake desire of potter I 1 conscious of such but do know that I 1 feel a great yearning to beneat this people the power that would coins to me of acting upon my sue tion would bring more of care than joy one of allens arguments was t h at the territory was absolutely devoid of sovereignty and that the people were merely subjects of chent aaion if a fact is something of which a free mati should blush to boa t and it a man be really a et lie need not volunteer to become a serf WO take it that 1 1110 tile organic act in letter and spirit confers upon the governor the right to appoint all officers of the territory not other ise provided ded for said act docs not coil template that the governor shall have the power to appoint university regents insane adlum diree tors beform school directors and clerks of the assembly tile governor of this territory has almost monar eb ical authority grants I 1 by law one would think that american citizens would not seek to make that authority absolute the aturo of air allen and his supporters bup porters is to bow their 6 faces into the duit and with their own tile F executive cleel upon their own necks sanding the facts that governor bests foot is finely archea and exquisitely bodied and that his ex cel lency is doubtless disposed to tr ad lightly tipon the prostrate persons of his fellow citizens one can imagine positions of more dignity and self respect thail the one proposed for himself and fellows by allen when allens vigorous and striking speech was ended it was clear that several of the majority had material for a reply Thu was prepared impromptu to disprove allens liar statement that we uro mero property of the united states and It ichards in the same way could have shown the fallacy of allens ment concerning ilia meaning 0 I 1 I 1 office 11 in the arganie act but the majority re from opening reopening re their batteries upon a dismantled fortress which had fired its last and only shot contented themselves with voting down the it wai well to end the matter so the discourtesy if any was on the part of allen in objecting to arg u ments from other who h ud taken pains to secure thia right to hijii THE ron COURT Es ETC on saturday we published the auditors statement of outstanding witness and juror certificates for tile four years ending december issa showing an outstanding territorial indebtedness on thes etwo accounts of over ninety thousand dollan iville this amount may seem large it is less than half of the actual expenses incurred in the trial of territorial crial nal cacs during this period the clerks of the district and supreme courts usually receive annually a considerable sum in payment for their in such cases and the gen kra government hasdora desir yeary paal assumed to pay for utah on other items of this account a large annual F un tile total of which must mu st now aggregate nearly four hundred thousand dollars in addition to the wit ness juror and clerks expenses in ilia trial of territorial cr minal cases there are those of the marshal and his kids the district att aney ana ills I 1 assistant the court attaches the com missioners ners before whom preliminary examination a are bield and the ei pense of keeping the territorial prisoners all of which the territory has bera afore refused to app opriano for and which tho general is assuming to pay from year to year and is charging to utah prior to tile of ahti poland lav all criminal business arising under the 8 of tile territory ws in the handa of ter rit orial off leers vrho were either elected by tile direct vote of the people or by the joint vote of the legislative assembly by th isbill however all this jurisdiction was taken from the officers of 1110 pertile to choin in all free governments it rightly belongs an d upon the federal authorities of the territory these authorities being in every sense an d employees of the general govern ment and amenable only to it past legislatures have refused to pay there bas been another reason an d a most justifiable one wily this whick all mu t adinie under other air cum stances the territory uld meet has not been paid law conferred upon ilia united states authorities tile criminal of the territory it did not provide that they should be paid according to the fee bill aich in many cases is double the fee in the absence of such a provision these officers no right to C harge more than the territorial of receive for similar yi milar r ervice or more than the statute al lows yet all their accounts are b ased upon the united states fee bill and as a consequence are largely in excess of what they 9 hould be in addition to the genera error that pervades all their account 8 the district attorney and his assistants have becil receiving more than mhd law allowa 3 for services and the entire cost of the penitentiary has been charged to the territory Terri toty A substitute JURY BILL the full text of the committees report 0 1 tile fadi clarY xing jury bill with t he fall text of the committees substitute als cpr tho committee on judiciary to whom waa referred 11 F bill profiling prof iding for the d I 1 ayt nent of jurors and creat ing court have 1 considered the same and herewith present a substitute entitle d A bill piro viding for the selection of juro rs that pait of ilia bill anvid ing for payment of jurors and Itri ees and creating C ourt co the committee believe is a w SO and expedient suggestion but in kamuch as tile in C tion slot said com missioners ners can be applied with equal propriety and benefit to tile auditing and payment rf claims of di clerks phonographic lk loiters and other territorial as well as the payment of and m witnesses it nesses the committee deem it to ate the questions involved and will at an early daty a new bill carrying idea suggested in that part of the bill emitted from the rub therom matteo recommend that the substitute be ado p ted and put conits passage chairman A BILT t deccio ind ef and ses and ceaf ceafie iq 1 BE rr reacted by the governor and ia assembly of the territory of utah that in the month of april A D 1833 and there after fter dually nu ally in the month of january lerk of ilia district court anti ao 10 bate judge of the county in bhrell the d court is next to be held shall in addition to the number of jurors alread e arnato ly select the name of a mile citizen of the united states the qualifications as juror required by taw and as selected the a balne halne and residence of each shall be entered upon the list until the same hall t contain two hundred names hen the same shall he duly by anch clerk and probate judge and the same shall be filed in the botrico of the clerk of such district court and a duplicate copy shall be made and rectified by such officers and filed in the office of faid probate judge sac 2 1 I lie clerk of the district court shall write tile name of each person upon said list so returned and filed in his officio upon a sp of paper as nearly as practicable of the same size and form and all such slips shall by the clerk in oden court be placed in a covered box separate and distinct from the the names already provided for by la and shall be mixed and ming led the box containing the names of jurors heretofore provided for by law shall be legally marked in a distin gui ahing manner and for all purposes 1111 be known and designated as the original box and the box contain inythe jurors provided forin this act shall be legibly marked in a distinguishing manner and for all shall be known and ted as the supplemental box whenever inthe proceedings of tile district court all the names of the ja bors in the original box shall have been duly and regularly drawn and said b ox have become complete ly exhausted if necessary for tile pur go of any trial or term f court the cited states marshal or his deputy shall proceed to fairly draw by lot from the supplemental box such number of names as may have been previously ordered by the judge or its may be necessary necess rry for the trial pend ing ar c S this act shall be in force from and after its approval by tile governor NOTES tonight to night it i s rumored that ils E x colency cl D lency his signed the appropriation bill shurtliff of weber has introduced n important me sure upon ba U liag hevert the following Is the routine report of the proceedings proceed inus of both houses COUNCIL in behalf of the commit tee on muni c apal corporations cori orations and lowris in rea it on petitions of davi d bowen and others and rufus I 1 snell and others asking chang es in tile fork charter becom ended that as congress had tied the logi lation for the petitions be denied the report of the committee was adopted in r gard to tile of thomas cupit and others of park city lit ie alti onto making c ity officers except policemen elective tile committee through its chairman recommended the framing ofa general bileto cover buh cases smoot presented C F 20 a bill to amend chapter 32 of the laws of 18 6 in Te lAtion to the chapter of ar vo city referred to committee on luu corporations and towns p resented C F 21 a bill which was real the time ani ro ae errel to the com cittee on co r fear rl a t tons the table bein g c tile council a to 2 p 1 tomorrow to morrow opening exercise auditor A the was read accod danied by the finan cial of kane county com cittee on counties thurman an of tile judiciary committee reported favorably on the fol loing bills amending certain sections of the civil code of in relation to gambling games sections a second bill g certain of the civil code the same coin m attee reported a sub for the bill in relation to the selection of jurors pro rn ising to Pr eltre another bill ela b od b ing the features of ilia original and other similar ones adopted from the CO in I 1 m attee made a report rel commending om that the ath dinst S t P M be fixed upon is time for visiting the university rho report was withdrawn for the pw kjose of introducing a colic resolution to the same effect allen from the committee on WE u b lie a for ono that bal been referred to the committee creer introduced a letter addressed to J 11 hinman esq secretory of the assoria tion written by ron john T aaltio it announced that the of the association in a reduction of the tariff on wool had been pron 1 laid before congress and rec em mended that the we condri ea upon the it ichards c d ruto 49 which pro pl of vides that ill ILL ri finished business the previous day shall take precedence of the regular order and suggest ad that the proceed to clear the table commencing at the point of last lerv olf thurman beet with idich ards that ilia un finished ft inam first in order ws reform I 1 chool bill and on th u it I 1 I 1 I 1 mans motion the proceeded to cons ider it called for the previous question richards suggested f that question had the right to close the debate if lie dished to hoge took the same made no objection and allen proceeded to make an argument in support of his amendment looking to making the directors of the reform school appointive by tile governor ile read from tile batters lat anes sare in which it is charged that the legislature has seized every opportunity to encroach upon tile prerogatives 0 the executive d insisted that t lie wits an ol 01 made ile insisted that what was C atom ary in other states and territories could |