Show BEFORE eq preliminary skirmishes all along the democratic line I 1 f S tani tammany anany strongly stroll gly objects to Clev CleT elands nomination the wa rk i n i agn 1 ian want butler or none else tilden repeats his refusal Ilef to glnn by western asad presa to the HERALD n VT 4 j t cilip est fonzi F CHICAGO july ff t lan n the national Committe bori motion il of mr hewitt mr prince was ea elected temporary secretary of the convention the following were nvere elected assistant sista fit secreta secretaries E R L merritt illinois georgy george W V guthric guthrie pennsylvania d G L johnson iowa robert robertm M bashford wisconsin chas 31 val vali valt t landingham landig ham missouri henry ll enry J alin lin den michael J barrett new jersey the tile following were elected reading clerks T 0 walker iowa thomas S pettit oatlie of the house of representatives nicholas it M bell NI missouri jas E morrison new york 11 II L bryant anselm cini lil inn e sola sota official stenographer edward B dickinson new york sergeant al at arms richard J bright indiana th the 0 committee were directed to recommend command to the convention that THE RULES of the last democratic convention govern this body until otherwise or dered subject to th the e following modification that in voting for candidates for president and vice president no state bo be allowed toc to change its vote until the roll of the states has ha s been called and every state bast ast its vote As a result of the long discussion the ilie committee decided that undetached coupons would not be bb accepted for admission to the con bention pall the committee ad mourned till fill 10 6 tomorrow to morrow anticipation however of haying having any business on liand I 1 ane KEW YORK delegation 11 i 4 i I 1 I 1 S s 4 a n met aati aall and ana continued continued tn in sessio four hours o the great interest centered in this matter as having im important bearing on tho tile final action of hallway in arp front at of the tile room in which the session as was held was filled with a throng of people acx anxious tons to secure early tidings of the result it was understood that at fit the meeting late last night tammany decided to insist upon the tw two 0 third majority for the tile in of the unit rule the tile question was whether that number could be mustered there was a long and excited discussion the tenor of which lias has not yet been learned humors rumors of the results df of the balloting ballo tInK crept out from lime time to timeout time but could not be verified the following is gaivenas given as the ballots taken for presidential MAL preference IEE FERENCE on the first or informal ballot cleve land 47 gen Slocum 15 bayard 9 L flowery flo owe werl r 1 itis it is understood that the flower men complimented slocum and bayard with a view to thereby winning the votes of kings county in ill the convention the vote role on the in of the unit stood it is at stated H 64 to 0 very few of iho the stales which perfected today to day took a test vote as to their presidential preferences the position of penn sylvania syl vanla Is known to be for kandall randall delaware for bayard and indiana and kentucky for mcdonald it is given out that connecticut will cast her twelve otes fat clevel cleveland a nd lomei iowa today to day took a vote and willon 1 on an informal ballot give cleveland 21 votes bayard 2 tilden 2 one blank vote was cast the georgia delegation was addressed by general faulkner ofner of new york who presented objections to Clev elands candidacy candi cacy cac are A re ply was made for cleveland by J joseph pulitzer of the world who spoke at length sandwith and with eat earnestness e the impression on tar the delegation jk was FAVORABLE TO CLEVELAND while there was no ho formal vote it was understood the tile vote of georgia would be cast for hi in vermont instructed her chairman to casttle tait cast tha the vote of the slate state as a unit for cleveland massachusetts c chu u 1 is A solid for butler but in the ehe event netta of f b his ls defeat it is believed the delera delegation tiou would be divided rather evenly mcdonald Th fannan anil itis it is contended that we split in the ohio delegation is in a measure healed mclean will be the choice for chairman the adherents of ofT thurman burman aro are making this move but it is cairned jit at the same sarno time thurman haa Ws twenty seven wen votes in ill the delegation at a ii jasd mas plumbers lash las night resolutions were passed that IS MAN that the tile democratic convention can nominate who w ho can insure their votes although the tile maj majority are dem democrats 66 rats they will vote far blaine unless but I 1 am 11 ler ier Is nominated the exciting event of today to day was the struggle in the tile new york delegation and the heavy poll in favoron favor of tha unit rule it was argued it would force the tammany opposition into a close corner but notwithstanding what appeared to be a famous victory for Clev elands follo followers werE i very few of the leaders were willing to concede the untrammeled success in the balloting ballo owing to the fierce nature of the struggle and the failure of a of the delegation to come out openly for the majority canaii dates it has been acknowledged that if the tile caucus mucus bad had ended with the certainty that lid CAST lull FULL VOTE for cleveland sufficient western in and southern strength would be at hand to mahke his nomination a sure fact the lack of unanimity i ill the delegation isnow is now being used by alie trenda of other candidates in pushing pus liing claims for recognition tion Clev cleveland elands i managers however ore are i in high feal tea i I 1 th ther erand acl claim cosare as ft result it of the days 15 U jw work that tile fight has already been won nn an d that it only requires the sitting of tho the convention to seal the victory 1 in an interview with a iames reporter immediately after the adjournment of the caucus of the new york delegation this afternoon JOHN KELLY said if inthe the delegation does not reconsider consider its it action suction and still insists on presenting abing Clev elands name tarns tam many will appeal to the convention we shall 1 state our case cle clearly a aly and plainly and aftem attempt t to 10 have the unit rule broken if f the tile convention refuses to do it the responsibility rests with it we will ill have F rave done our duty whom else can new now york present asked the reporter report ei 0 slocum cum replied kelly kellye I 1 would he make a strong candidate 1 I don know I 1 amnot am not clear on that point he ile is popular in the state and hag made strong runs but whether lie would do for president I 1 cannot canno tsay say in fact we want a candidate who lias bas been enough identified with the national government and who has had experience enough to be called a statesman cleveland made a good ma or and a food sheriff but as governor governur he be has been a failure slocum haa made algood a congressman but how bow he lie would do as a president is problematical we want wanta a man with experience and broad views are there any others who would fill all these requirements YES ES BAYARD AND MCDONALD NEW july ae 7 the following foll owing is is an authentic copy of the communication to mr barnum chairman of tho the national committee from mr tilden I 1 GRAYSTONE july mr 1884 c to lion HOM 11 arnum chicago 1 I have received your telegram in forming me of the disposition to nom inato me forthe for tha presidency and aski askine nir will you accept an unanimous nomination from tho the convention and also aso tha telegram from mr manning saying saving it seems absolutely sol pol necessary necessary essaiy that yon you should answer mr telegram as soon as possible Y your our in inquiry lit ry was emphatically answered in in the the nega live tive by in my ietter fetter of june to mr 31 manning signed S SJ JT TILDES 11 |