Show THE CLAWSON CASE I 1 iny prosecution in the third IT S district C court ourt of utah I 1 territory 11 on friday forenoon after some preliminary proceedings ed the ti trial iii of rudger clawson Ci awson for polygamy was resumed the tailing taking of evi ovi dence beginning with RV decker deck or who is reported by the deseret news us a having testified as follow i i I 1 am ani a general clerk packer and I 1 shipper ehi at spencer fc pencer Claw Bona sons store have been thero there over two years know the defendant be he is employed there awas f was there before jan 1st ast 1883 and and have been since except some som weeks in january 1884 wh when defendant started to 1 work there have hay C een lydia S spencer first met meaner hir in the store i about 9 out a abear year ao ago dont kno know of her purchasing haking goods od d de fend ants credit or account she paid as other cash casla customers dont dollt remember anith i n ica bout a package 0 of f which clawson or any one elfo elo said aid it was buds wires or asked which wife or paid said a go good 0 d piece adf of evidence I 1 hai have e not to my pc y recollection said that such a thing took place hi my presence I 1 know james K E alip calne 1 e hae not with ain in the last three weeks stated to him that such thing ii dithing took place in my ilia th question which brought athla out was wai objected to dont remember makins making such a statement to him sr else dont admit or deny it abne ando do not riot reco recollect it I 1 next came spencer clawsen who an on an beins recalled produced the I 1 of f bis his establishment ament M ho he turned ta to the dac defendants pw account nod 61 after comparison of 2 the bipka with each other by tho the witness and air mr dickson thy alie pro prosecution seemed to abandon the idea of getting anything from those records to fuit purpose air clawson was asked to explain the method of or doing ing busi business nesa at ill hid i store and did so shirr jar Ber Bennet inett fc for the defense the dro witness to describe the office of his store which ho he did d and im in to another q 11 is ifs 1 id that acts 4 I 1 v ali th the e faff ico could r readily bacch from the the store 6 on J n account 0 of goods antei veiling unless t I 1 tl ali fr south aisle I 1 th next witness yi mess was IL 11 M wells who deposed substantially aa naj allola Jollo iViE I 1 I 1 I 1 I 1 lite in this city am city recorder laet last winter was a member and secretary of the ward mutual improvement association know the know Lydia bencer pencer but have had lier pointed outto me dont knoby whether she was a member of that Ab association or not the defendant was ivas I 1 think the tte alt atsa was licie asked to the books of the so society citty and complied tho the defend defendants anta name is is m marked as being first present at the second meeting in february he lie was proposed for membership jan 3 31 81 84 8 1 members were w ere not always present ali 1 en proposed dont kemem remember cr that ho lid was others were proposed the tile same evening eveni nj amon among them lillic lillie clawson cl iw sou dont know her ber lier her name ii ii next after the tile defendants on the roll dont doht know whether Lilli 1010 ewas w as present or not when sho she was proposed if it members came in too lale late for roll call I 1 marked them present if I 1 knew ew them otherwise not no bool book kept eliere alie members signed their names hames that I 1 know of lilliea lillies last name was vas s spelt pelt clawson si sidney anet B clawson then avedia av ehia which co contains n the points I 1 a ama I 1 al f brother r t I 1 I 1 C i of i tile ile t K de defendant N r jdant I 1 kiowa lady ladr called lydia i spencer have laie known herfor li eror a good goad man many years by that name aan 43 Iwas was a mc member ibber during ifie of january debs auary and march of this thip year of the 1811 ward M I 1 A my brother was it a member of that association I 1 do not know now that ledta dla spencer wag was a member af df that association I f have been her biere but I 1 could not tell how many times I 1 do not know by what name she khe was tailed in III the as so clation I 1 have seen berat tho the Have Ilav cen my brother thero also I 1 have love seen n him in company gitil lydiab e ainone or two occasions I 1 to do not know whether she was called jillie ullie oi or ly lydia lylia lia at that association I 1 la e not been the defenda defend int nt go tooran to or from the association with lydia spencer on auy occa occasion t the defendant lived during the months of march ferrua february p and abril ril of this year in in tho I 1 ward I 1 ani ls home while living there dont re mcm mem berthe time k t was since christ mas hat and before I 1 testified before the tile there I 1 met ni my y brother and mrs florence clawson claw son mimi spencer was thero there she was there one occasion I 1 only spent a it few minutes in tha house libuse 1 I 1 iier rt haq I 1 larrat a ill meal eal I 1 did not pay any attention as to how miss allai spencer was diet dressed sed do not know th o houba pied I 1 cannot tell whether this tills lillie daft son aud my blot lF joined tho the a il thearin thea ain gt itoe inesti I 1 beati n aed d before ther jury that I 1 did not know when they joined because I 1 inight have leen keen put flown n at tho the lime time lay e called nio away aw aya Tk now ifo of the clawson family who ft bo ia is a member 0 the ward named lillie clarrson clawson there f tho cl 44 family named lillio I 1 have a sister called Lulu lut no bister whose name a s lillie orson rogers an employee of spencer Claw sona testified about callina op rei 4 bettl I 1 J goad 11 ne I 1 N joked aked with il fth tho defendant t about the 1 report that he lie had a second wife he IIA always passing it off on lightly I 1 never a admitting dwitting or denying it I 1 stanley ill t duill cl ml he ua V t b j bitne 8 S as ibl alvs caysi says I 1 proved the sam weller thus far i tfx ill iti tl taiti I 1 and dickson co like dodson and fe fogg at did not make much butof out of him 1 I am brother to the deen defendant dan know lydia spencor visited the defendant fen dant in january february and march 1 dont remember testifying before the grand jaril jar of bf having r met lydia there before christ christmas nal may have said mid so but think not met them at kny my mothers house priced last year I 1 think could not say whether hather they came camo or deft Inico in company pany I 1 may have seen seed them in other fal places dont ont reco recollect lloa testifying that I 1 saw t them e frequently on the third south 6 street reet car carloina going goina toward the iret ward 1 I amnot am faiq in the habit babi af traveling that way yav things pass from my mind cant remember everything yon you kenw my memory ignot is not very rood at beat ao never had any convex conver sating cation with defendant about his relationship ti tion ship with lydia lidis spencer dont kemem remember der saying before the G grand Jury that 1 had joked him abbet it and he passed it off wont say I 1 did or did not but bist dont remember it never heard any one allude to 0 hia his re I 1 1 tion ship with hi her er in his pres presence ell ce 1 think I 1 have seen theia them together at the thea theater tei my name is not stanley B Cla clawton woon bit stanley I 1 11 II I 1 Tru port ti testimony was ddn rendered by ii B Claw clawson sou I 1 I 1 lam am the fath father 6 r of tile the defendant I 1 know I 1 have known her for four years my eon son lived d duenk uri n the latter part of 1883 and during issa up to some six weeks a ago ol 01 in the ward opposite the prave grave of JUri ghim young I 1 visited him during the latter martof part of 1883 or during the first four orfice or fhe months of this year I 1 visited hm once ido I 1 do not recollect the alma I 1 met rhet mrs florence clawson Ct awson the wife of the de fen danti bev wife was with mo me in addition to these there was almiddie aged ged woman there I 1 didiot did not see lydia spencer there I 1 do not know whether she was there or not that is the only tune 1 I visited lysons my bons eons house 1 have baye seen cen my son and lydia in company not frequently I 1 cannot eny say how many times I 1 hae have seen alpi at my residence once or twice lydia spencer was as vis visiting biting there my eon son would also be visiting 1 I havor cerr both herbat he roat atthe the tame timo time I 1 did not see them comfor coma or go cannot say bother the they camo came together or not I 1 found them in the house cant fix the date pf af the visit have seen them there this year have seen them there two or 1 I reetia ltv sinco since the first I 1 have seen them at the theater in company two or three times I 1 could not place the date late it may manhave have been the parly early part of this vear year or tho ther latter part of last year r mrs clorence florence cl clawson a ason wa was S not at it the theater with them Ila I 1 have I 1 not seen them anywhere else that I 1 remember 3 mr dickson p presented thesues tion whether ther ha lie witness knewl knew from rom conversation with the defendant whether or not hel helas wasa a beli believer everin in the doctrines of plural marriage aa as taught ly by the church mr bennett objected to the question on ac cogut of its being ain material the Eoin point was then argued by bolli sides but tit the hour of recess b having aduf i arrived the judge saidee said ho wa would 11 reserve his decision until the re assem bling of the court when he ruled in favor of the proe prosecution cution on the tile question put to bishop bishov clawson CI awson namely did your son evon evell express to you his belief in plural marria marriage c bishop cin son answered aba that he had no recollection of hh hij having done BO 0 the chief interest odthe of the trial thus far culminated in the examination of president john taylor of which chwe we publish a verha verbatim tini report as furnished by the salt lake heralds herald Q Is your TP T h P aring uzo U kopd zo 4 lor agyei A yes sir att 3 T i Q A youage the tho vi estlene fre est lent of the church of jesus christ of latter day saints j i I 1 I 1 A Yea Yem pir sir Q how lony hae have you occupied copied oc the faleo of president A well I 1 cannot say precisely tho vie records will show r Q a number of years I 1 s it not A yes sir pir Q you are familiar with the laws and revelations tons that have been gi given vart to the church I 1 I 1 A ah not as familiar as I 1 might be perhaps but I 1 knoby a number of them 1 1 Q do you know bf the sacraments that are tire observed by the Chur church cb bt b the observance of chichis chis h is taught by the church I 1 1 A 11 I 1 I 1 do not know kno W 1 wh aton efer refer io to Q 1811 Is theio 1 1 1 0 a sacrament adiah of mir marriage or a ceremony as laughl by t the lie church I 1 A ax yes i nj 1 I 1 Q the lacot law of the church is is opposed to and forbids intercourse be t tween the tile lexes that a outside of t the le ina marriage reiko rela relation flon 4 J i Q question objected to as im mafer binl 0 objection overruled is aa A yes sir Q do you know mr taylor wha the officiating priest or mini stera in the in this pity wore during the rear ear 1883 1983 I 1 mr bennett ve object to that it please there theire is no proof f gg more before the Ih aCourt Court that there is an 1 dowmont I 1 I 1 mr dickeron Dic keon him is there thero an endowment house 11 in tills city I 1 Quo question ob objected jetted to as immaterial mr dickson where are re in the mormon church i t thai ht isby is by members of the af mormon rm fa falah th col celebrated in the tile endowment house or 1 elsewhere I 1 A soniat imes they are and somo l times elsewhere r e Q where v here else if not in the 0 tin 1 d adment house I 1 A I 1 do not know that I 1 can sa ayi there is no specific place appointed in i chich marriages occur 1 1 qi 01 there is ia a doctrine of them church is thera there not metaylor Mr taylor cf 0 plural marriage mr Bannett Be we object tor ta that ii if your honor please 6 wi lathatt L fl s 1 I 1 if 1 i ni p ieli it i al 41 I 1 jt t I 1 ira 1 I 1 1 1 I 1 1 mr dickson wo expect to fallow this up if the question ia is jansi answered verea in in the affirmative by showing that plural marriages are celebrated in incie th e endowment idal hause only if it I 1 carh am correct bout about this 1 cah ba state so afi am not ho be can correct roe lint I 1 expect to follow cupl and 4 show that p lural mardla marriages s arm are reoul I 1 u I 1 re red d by th the laws of tai the r church tobe to be celeb celebrated in iti the endowment 1101 house se mr i bennett f to president taylor who se emed about toan to anwer jpe pe kind enough to answer slowly I 1 mr air dickon if I 1 can bucce edah showing sho iring that plural marriages marri agea agis hitre abere arere to td be ba celebrated in ment went house ke or borne some Endow endowment house this testimony wili be je made ve very r m material ate arl by y subsequent proof which li we h have I 1 jud judge g 71 iane e well slate jp aur anea lion tion I 1 i mcbennett Mr Bennett head read the question mr reporter re or t er i I 1 jjr I 1 I 1 the 1 reporter I 1 pa fer the quenon 1 4 thero ita I 1 a doctrine ethne 16 1 of or the ii Is there not mr taylor alof 1 I 1 af plural marriage if r J judge zane lancto to witness xon id answer that tha I 1 d A aar f A certainly 1 E exception alon taken 1 I j I 1 Q I 1 IV what h it li 14 your ans answer dvir to td thalia ahat A why ui U Q nellt M ell now doc dos not the church require that when member jy fuh are about to td enter I 1 into n to plurals marriage that such mari marriage lage shalbe hat lybe performed in id some one of thi eaid endowment boutes Ho Ifo utes uses n I 1 A A tir I 1 t 7 Q are not the plural 1 marri marriages agis entered into by the bembera mem b bera of the i church t so for far as j you know T performed ef iri iii the endowment E question objected oba to a as immaterial and irrelevant I 1 arc dickson it will wil show lallow he the geheran custom is fany judge zinc you map question i i I 1 exception taken 1 I I 1 I 1 mr lur porter jp J read the question 1 the reporter brenot tr enot alei iral marriages marris marrit es entered into by the mem m born 1 bers of 07 the tho church fo oo 00 fara farad byoir yot know performed iri the thi endowment house 1 A no yo fostr sir str 1 1 j Q where are 1 they performed 4 V 8 etere aanie objection rIdo ado not like to object to every qu question estion but this whole lice linb is irrelevant this min man the tile defendant is nj najt indicted for being a member 0 the mormon church mr dickson dicksoh ih J farmed if it not in abuse t 1 1 exception i taken i 1 A I 1 cann catin pt say I 1 Q do you ihnow know of alay any plural adral marriage eyer ever having been entered into alie church outs side of the endowment 11 10 disc k I 1 A yea yes Q who when A could 1304 not sa say y Q do you know of any plural marriages entered into by any members of the faith residents of abb ter of or utah ever ever having been act pcr armed fr med and entered into 0 outside of I 1 any an one bf of the tile endowment houses jay within iliin the past tareo years question objected toas immaterial imma terl and irrelevant t 1 I 1 1 1 i andge zane zania you the q fuestion ue stion exception taken jAken question question repeated t I 1 A I 1 have recollection demahy many euch ruch I 1 Q have you any recollection of an any such acla within the past pait three years AJ kv could dould not answer at present Q well it is your present pre ent recollection we have to take I 1 A very well r imire no recollection tao n at present Q Is any place called an endowment house a T temple le or known by any other name amt w I 1 is set apart as a place for the celebration of plural marriages i i question objected to judge zane beuche lie may answer the he 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