Show IRY fl 10 SHOW I F OT AT AI BOTTOM Of PlOT Ballinger Defense Alleges That Th t Forester Attempted Over Overthrow Overthrow throw of Secretary I t GEORGE OTIS SMITH ON WITNESS STAND I r Some Exciting Incidents Incident Occur I In Examination of Sensational Case Casc at al Washington Washing on WASHINGTON April 23 An effort wa wn W made by the defense nse In the Bri Investigation today to t show that GIfford PIn botand and his assistants had bad conspired conspire to overthrow Secretary Dal linger because he lie opposed ed CLI way of or lag While the Ballinger Bide side of the thC con controversy controversy trot occupied tile tie center of or the tare rae the other sIde aide appeared prom In the Attorney Dr premising the newspapermen further regarding Attorney Gen Geu oral ral summary of the tho Glavis charges which he Intimated yesterday had been heen written two months after dato date it bore Mr 1111 WIckersham would uld neither affirm nor norden deny dens den this when whon seen soen today toda I r i have haye else eIRe to do he said There Is 19 enough matter maller suing going out ont now without my ny jug lurr to It Mr Ir said t today tad a ho be could not subpoena Mr Ir WIckersham to lO question qu him about the summary so solie solie lie he had to content himself with ques questioning qU questioning 9 witnesses called by b tho the Je Jo fenEe who might know mot about It Smith on Stand George Gcorge Otis OUs Smith director of o tile the general survey sune occupied the stand during practically tho tim entire day clar His Interesting to toa toa toa a conversation he had with Mr lr Pin Pinchot chot cliot last July Jul In which the latter atter Is paid Eald to have haYe characterized Mr fr Bal Ballinger linger as aa a n yellow vellow dog doS and ami to bave threatened to lead a fight against the secretary If there thero was any An ny of or former Secretary Garfield at al the ano mo Irrigation congress congre B Mr Ir Smith i aiso nho n lo told of ot a talk with Associate For ester Overton with Price last Sep September September ember while the latter as ns acting for forester forester forester ester Price Is alleged to have havo said that we will wili get him Ballinger one oue way Wn or another Mother i Following this Interview with Mr 11 1 Pinchot Mr Smith said ho he went TO 10 o I attend the Spokane congress whore tho fight was precipitated over a charge that Mr had allow allowed ed ei ri the Interests s to grab a num number number ber her of valuable water watCh power rower sites Mr DIr Jr Smith excited great Interest among amon members of tho t o committee by b reading a letter he wrote roto August 16 1909 to In his office omee here while TWe he wan on tho the way wa back bac from the Spokane convention I Ing Jog the tile fight The rhe whole conservation movement I Is now nem linked up with Mr views on the subject wrote Mr Smith so that orthodoxy orthodox In the cause cau e means agreement with Mr Pinchot As A I look at it any Issue Is to be P raised that can be Je against Secretary not because of or that but bul because Secretary B lInger is IB to 10 tobe toli be li overthrown because he lH opposes I Mr Ir way a of or conserving con ug Now No there was waa no criticism of Gar Garfield Garfield i field at Spokane and arid yet et the tho fight came camo off ot aa am Q planned Tho The congress k was organised the were shap shaped j i ed d the orators chosen the j pers lUtT IH primed in short all guns wore wora 1 l loaded The result was waR that the pow I I or er r Hite grab charge was WM defective I Ir r 1 and antI the Alaskan coal charge went off oU oUi i earlier c than planned After commenting on the fact that thal I nil the speeches made by b those from trouble had holl been expected In such good taste Mr fr Smith whole that thal Governor Pardee had bad started Ul th trouble tiou le by speaking on the tho sins ot or Instead ot of o irrigation in Iii int t rest of or the eople on which he be was wast t announced to lo speak Though he hc Pardee old me rae he lie in ill inI inI I tended nothing personal said Mr lI I I Smith In hIi loiter lottor ho Iio insinuated tuat was either cither a fool or a H knave and an rather r intimated the latter tb as at his favorite hypothesis |