Show I EXCERPTS OF TESTIMONY BY DOHENY EXAMINED CROSS p ON LOAN TO FALL FAiL 1 WASHINGTON Jan Jn 38 Si After 26 After king I question Thursday bol bott tho board tf tt expert uperta pro pro- pro pro-po d by the th tb In hta hi state state- statement tat tat-ment ment Senator nih Dill DIU on wanted to know whether E L Doheny would be ir willing to turn the lh i lea leaf back bull to th government If It tr bo wr wore relm- relm relm bur burana d tor or expenditures made road un Un- Un Under un-d un d der r L It To Tn To turn back buck the tho th l ine aa an pro pro- pro proposed posed replied would be bean b bAn An evidence nc of ot wron ron I do not I want this t M be decided I b a pUb opinion on testimony bo- bo botor b bror tor tore thia committee bt b t b a board beard of oC expel ts ta A kl he had h d made mado mid a profit out of o the tho th leo leo-e le so o far tar the r in l the th Have Hav you 11 bOdy elco el oIn in the th Interior department or the navy ally DoUY money asked Senator Ull jl or have ou offered to make mk any loan loins loans to any any- anyone any on ono one In either de department d In addi addi- addi addition addition tion Ion to Mr I III Fill II I 1 No No sir lr ir IS In ire UC L iI 01 I UL III It In Ia pa abl on oo demand What hat Is tho rat at if Cof it No rate rat of Gt nt L wae wan upon It was wan Ift lutt for me m to till fill In ro 0 PAYMENTS PAi PA T MADE lUDE Has any o cn toad mad on the th noto not noto o i w iere 1 ere tero Is ie i Ue the tl note to be b paid p ld t N Now Nv w York o Ot I Los Angele 1 lou ou gave him birn the money be- be blore before be before fore lore he ho 0 sent lent ou otI the note not 1 sir Ye Yos Senator to ask whether wh th r y had given any about bout the th terms of o the th not No J oJ 1 the itne Who Who made mado out th note con con- con continued tinned SenatOr r Lenroot I think It IUS 53 w Is to Mr Falla Fill Is this note nota hotel among your In your tax tal ro- ro return r ium turn asked ur Walsh It It is I not ot I It dGe do 9 not hear heir anyn any n terest I ha no In- In Income in com In-com come from roni It Do Do you not In your In in-I com In-com como come report any uny property except that hat which brings In income Sen Senator Sentor tor I do not know 1110 I 1 have hav a 0 per per- p r-fonal r ronal onal attorney who ho takes take care car of my money mony matters matter and alI males makes out my Income ton tax report Ho Ito knows knos aU all money I rec h e and all aU the th checks I dr When ho my say I I ant nant your hu tw fur 8 18 or 13 Q 0 OI to pay Lilt ta first installment in l on yur Income tax I BEnt the be l I do Co n oct net t I now exactly what items tem are ar co In the th report Senator Lenroot then took up Uil the tho Wh Whit t am are yur y ur expectations with Ith regard recard to tb th payment re-payment of this loin n 1 lie 11 a ai d 0 d K E I I r do not kno know knon whether hether bether Senator rail will be b able to ay ay out of o any profit from hr his pi opt ties the tho th wit wit- witness witness wit ness replied I c expect him to pay loan Tf It hu ho I 1 not Ia his I may him In my In Mex Mex- Mexico eo ico co with which he Ic Is cenTer ant and pay hIm II a elry out ot of which h he h could get r l 1 d ct of the th loan I had that In mind mini at lit the H-c time lime Urn I made the loan If It Mr Fell F l does cea not enter your employ will ou ClU pS prees p-et p him for tor the tho payment p-ment of the til note I I think I lull ill Did Did you this Ihli loan would reflect upon M Mr Mt Fa Fill Foll I did not t would reflect J upon him ai na much touch IIa as ii It now will mil had a 0 ut of It lt been b n made In his hlo hi pre lou I hat do you rou mean mn by that I t think It would out have hav been mu Ji ii better had th ch truth ben been b told ather than the that tho th loan had h l en from Mr r McLean Do ou think It any reflection up n Hr Ir Fall all I I do not I I Then wh why you not toll toil the committee It when you rou Were her here In December II I thought It Wa WAI as Mr Ir Falls Fall's i Fe-i Fall buet buat- burt ne ness s It Woo was not p nt to any question whir which had hd been teen asked ked of Inc when I w b fo e the tho th commit tee I Where were w r you asked Sena- Sena S na ngUI taking lAking tho ho wit wit n n nh hen hn n Ml Sit Fall 11 i out obtaining thi th loan from Mr McLean an a was lAhde to tho the commit commit- committee committee'S committee I I teeS tee'S tee I va os 18 In I I T HB nn TO IO WAIT WArT Why did you OU not advise the tho I thought It bet bent to await de- de developments dt You Tou appreciate that a greater degree of eu would attach to toa toa toa a tran a Uon of thIs thill kind by rn- rn rea reason son eon of that act Sure Sur What d T were you Yh Why lJ nC you como come forward at that tId time I 1 think I tame am ome forward promptly It ft Is 10 I January and the have hao Intervened I X think I have haT acted A committee member suggested that had hid vIsited the tho th White WhiteHouse House two or fir three thre agoS ago'S ago ayo It was wao wa two month ago aro re- re re rejoined joined tho I I had lunch lunch- luncheon luncheon lunch con eon with Pr and Mrs lira Cool Cool- Coolidge Ids Cool idge and may have ABT remained for tor fora torii a halt half hour In the th lounging room Thelo i were c other r gentlemen at the th time One On of thorn them was wa's Mr Quinn of late late- lately lat y ly Iy elected el had bead of ot the th American Lt Legion glon and waa wa we a gentle gentle- I gentl-I man from Kentucky TV w We were In- In In Incited cited In to take lune lunch Senator Stanfield Republican Oregon Asked whether Dohany had any anxiety about tho the use u Fall would make mak of the th money mony you loaned him None bone Non whatever wee waa w the th reply Re He was an old friend Did ho he h tell you asked a kd Sena Sena- Senator Senator tor Adams Adama Democrat Colorado ho he h got Irot mony money from bankers banker In Colorado 1 No sir lr TELLS TILLS ABOUT SLOPES HOPIs He He H did say cay be h was wae wa hard bard presa- presa ed d d continued Senator Adams Adam Ho He H told me m about hIs hi hopes and nd expectation His HI made mad such uch an impression upon me m that thata as aa an n old friend I advanced him out of my plent I had to re- re relies r lies his hll hi mind Was W as there any discussion about repaying you the th mony put In Senator Pittman D Democrat No- No Nevada Novada N Tada vada No sir lr He H never novel said aid when he thought ho he h could repay II It Any question of ot security went wenton wenton wenton on Senator He H offered me m the th ranch he heWa wu Wa going to buy as aa security Did he be h ever vr buy the tho th ranch I I under understand he h did I would not have havo hav taken It at 08 a security If he had hod offered II It W Wo have hav talked about the tho th ranch after he h bought I It IL Did you rou expect him to go to Into your employ whir while he h was wu secre- secre secretary tary tary of oC o the tho th Interior No after that thaI Ho He often he was not going to remain In the tho cabinet I Mry ery long lone When ho he h borrowed the th tOO tOO- I ho he h had In mind that ho he h was going to perform only a few more official acts eta I do not know knew I did not know how soon oon lie he h would retire whether wh he would atay tay throughout U rou hout his term or only a email mail part of ot it II It rh Iben n you attach some value vahl to I the noto note I attach value lu to It II it Whore do you usually u keep ke your note notes I I r kep keep roost most of them th m In Los Lc Angeles I kep keep some torn In New Nw NewYork York Did you make mako a search earch for this thi note CANNOT FIND NOTE I I made mad a hurried search earch said raid the tho and thon then from hi bl pocket a gold bound morocco bill blU cue case he ha h added When tho the note not was WIlS wa brought to tome tome tom me by my son on I placed It-In It this book and kept It there for tor some sometime time It may be b that the th not note notI I Is In my security ault In New NewYork I II York I know I have hav not lost lort It IL ILI ItI I I will have hAVO hav my eon on and my wife to alot In looking for tor It M As A soon oon as asI aI I can find It I will produce It be- be before tore b-tore fore foro you I kno know the tho th note not I Is b not I lost Asked Ak a by Senator Stanfield whY I the tho money was waa wa paid ov ove ovi to Fall Fallin In cash ca h Doheny he h saw noth I log ing In unusual In that He H recalled his hl experiences experience In Mexico here I ho paid Id cash ch sometimes was wu hard I to pot got and declared ho he h was war wa accustomed tomeS tomed to handle handl large larce sum rum sumo In that form He lie fid Id In reply to another I question that ho he h considered the cash feature of the tho deal no reflection reflection tion on Mr Fall Senator Smoot asked whether Fall In dIscussing the th loan had told of oC th tb the improvements he h would have havo to mako mak on tho the ranch prop prop- property orty erty Ho He told mo me m that lr le would I I I I I I II I I I I I I 0 hae ha to have hav to get ret the ranch returned the th witness I wanted to satisfy his ambition to own the tho th ranch HO He H did not tell you TOU he ho had sold his hla newspaper for tor 4 t ked asked Senator Smoot No he h did not tell toe mo m about that Did It occur to you that there here waa was any ImproprIety In loaning money to an officer In the tho th government gov- gov with whom you had busi bUBI- bUBIn busi- busi business n ness nese transactions 1 Senator Len Len- Lenroot Len root root asked It did not net wa the th reply If It If I was waa wa limited to loaning my money to person pron with whom I had hadnot hadnot hadnot not associated a and who are ar not my lends ti-lends I would not loan an It ItLa itis ItIs La is common for mo me to loan loon money to my old friends Sly My office Is filled with them I d dp not do It because thy they are ro ar entitled to It but simply Imply through h I loan them money In that aum that may sur- sur sur o you as aj to the tho th amount A Aloan Aloan Aloan loan of ot to Mr Mc rail w was not an unusual thing hint with Kith me m at th that t time tim I 1 want to insist that I Idid Idid Idid did no bustnes wilt will him directly and for tor that reason It would not put him under obligations obligation to me You Tou told us that It was wu a mat mat- matI mat tr tr where whre Mr Fall Fail did havo have dis- dis discretion dl said raid Senator Lenroot It If Ithe he could rould exercise his hla discretion do you not think the tho loan may havo caused him to exercise It In InI your favor That did not occur to me m at that time Senators Senator Walsh and Adams Adam call call- callI called call called ed attention to portions portion of a It lot lot- lotter let letter ter ter written by Fall to Doheny Dohony on onI July Tuly 3 S nil 1921 In which the th secre tary cr-tary tary tan raid he h would handl handle the th oil lease o as a I think best and will not consult with mth any offIcials of any bureauS au In this department but only with mys lf and such ruch uch consul consul- will bo be confined strictly and entirely to matters mattera of general poli poli- policy policy cy They Th y I low low of this Doheny must abandon his hie hi conten conten- contention contention contention tion that be h b woe wa not aware of Soc Soc- Sec Secretary Fall Pall a s control of ot the tho oil lease lea situation at the th time he h mato mado mad the loan and that ho he h could not sustain his hla argument that theLt the th le leases were wro made mado by Mr lorr Falls Fall's Fall subordinates Just JURt before he h wu was wa excused d from the witneSs land closing the th hear hear- hearIng hr log Ing for tor the th day Doheny agreed tr cd to search earch again arain for tor the tho th cancelled check and the th Fall note noto and to present pr nt them to the th corn com committee com at nt a later date dato dat |