Show 11 W contradicts illegal HE ETS THE court caroi aih in on alit arnn fiction Fit tion special to TIU SALT LAKE kov 21 in the notorious investigation proceedings before juie yesterday another large crowd was the interest being increased by air to state liow many he bait when air aci rose again took the witness stand ll ickson asked the question how many wives have you 7 leurant elated that it the witness still he eliou lil make a written annaer to the court kivior liia reasons and denying any intention 0 contempt babkin does lie intend to answer young lie does not I 1 am it tor bm and ask the court to permit a written of liis reabon court you may file eccli statement the counsel tight to insist on alia answer and he will be coni mitel for Us will be committed io the penitentiary dickson we ask that tins invert galica be continued until he answers legrand young that la not right we arc not or this nor is air amoore thia ase abou d be drawn to a close we want to intro due more testimony said he was unwilling to proceed without croas examining air penrose lie is their most important wit nebB and without a crohw exaure aaion the cae before the boull be ve could alie testimony out legrand young sir penrose i willingto answer aay question tion extein M to his family ai there is no pretense that he hia not been a po I 1 dont think the court has power to go over sir eo rows actions anat have been I 1 base the authority 0 alia united scalea supreme court for stae ment they empett to hain bick his life and I 1 say ali y have DO do bo the court chit fie ain neaty did not wipe out he fact that he biad violated the law abe witness w ds oca of the most important imp orant men in alie laurch and as to the taits whether he had il or had violation of tho united states he cannot an after fter in the nay he giai ho is squarely in contempt lie is upon bie dignity Le Granda no your honor he is not they SLOW that they intend to pursue him into that fur which be has been pardoned sir moyle taid abia proceeding proc eeling had been to deprive men of the privilege of citizenship and the scope of alie evidence bial ben very aroid because a witness now refuted to answer was no reason for postponing it the question hid no relevancy to the isadia the evidence tint lia I 1 been admitted by the court to a great ex nt wa not the court said tint BO fir as the applicants for ere on cairned it ba light to continue this a e the did answer but the court wil go on sir baid they expected to that abe witness misstated facts ft heo be said abat I 1 bo C arih dad not dictated in gafers lie ex ceded that blead nt would be shown to be a oi the church and that they considered it would yet be enforced against those or instance who committed adultery we eay that BO member ol 01 the church haa any right to citizenship and the gov now purposes to p bitoun by its authorized aeve buskia when this cape end which ordinarily would end in a day or two tie will released rele aeed from the penitentiary and I 1 think the coart ehwald keep him in the penitentiary long enough to make it irksome an d make him an example alie ase should be kept alive for a whole year if B W young it seems to me that ahe other side are arbitrary in their manner and it is quite plain to all baskin we cant go on today to day anyhow lagrand young mr benrose stated emphatically that be bill not de line to answer any question that is prop r aroha examination court mr penrose must answer abe questions that are held to be proper the anti mormon that had frequently been nade n ade during alie examination acain broke forth bat in a more marked degree there being clamping of feet and clapping of hands judge anderaon And ereon made an order that if it was repeated the court room would be cleared P L williams urged the court to adopt plan jelm anderaon eaid lie had to e to beaver next week and the case could either be before or ba postponed till after he returned 1 I propone that this must answer this question junices lie puts bis refusal upon abe one ground that he can put it on if any witness refuses to answer any except on legal groon dg be will be compelled to answer mr penrose waa then taken away iby a deputy marshal SALT CITY nov 2 the latter part of the crosa examination of henry lawrence a portion of which was ei yen la synopsis yesterday is aa follows air lawrence continuing I 1 was was alie only religion my parents were tit cere I 1 teas sincere there are many pretty theories with soi abe pric lice is one thing the theory another I 1 waa acquainted and was taught that he a a prophet of god was the bame regarding brigham youna and that they were to lead and direct in all things daring alie lait years of my with abe church were many things that objectionable tio we eaid these things are wrong but we were told that wa would ece that they were all right we were required to rive up our agency this is the the people were under mr godbe started the utah the forerunner ot the tribune we advanced liberal idea and wanted ilor monism to be true at that time brigham young was supreme ive wore and to any of abe counsels of alie leaders was worthy 0 excommunication ard ostra a hard thing to bear brigha n young taught obedience in all chingw this is not taught today to day we baw that there waa an ellart to defy abe rovern anent and we wanted to prevent it the opening of the mines was opposed young tried to control the wages 1 the w mr har raaon wrote a piece in opposition to this in the school of ane prophets expressed his etien mr wrote an article on the mines we were in bear lake and we knew ahe conflict would cume and wa would have to come out of the church article was trimmed to be as little objectionable aa possible I 1 eadd to them boy ill weeks to stay in the church we came home in about ten daya and harrison and gobba called op T B II 11 houss red to stand by us of aba disaffected gare in and BO did ateo honie he was afraid to do otherwise mr moyle objected to abio aa they had been shut out by the court from introducing testimony of the game claa cla a the objection was overruled oer ruled sir lawrence Li wrence continuing any op borit on to the priesthood was called apostasy the leading ron of the church were at hat meeting ain re term ta sir godbe followed and took a firm it baia fi erion milter then to oppose young gobba justified himself and air a similar stand he claimed they had a rigl t to publish there was hii e a displayed ro against me but I 1 agre d ti stand by them A motion WAS called to dis continuo the utah sra ganne and all but hysek and a ew others eted for it I 1 voted in baior of ng the and that was called treason in those days there as a risk in cabine g the church I 1 waa caled t the aland and maintained uny position young eaid be hid heretofore birned in his coat poc liet the adjourned and and ll arrison were cited to appear bufore the high council which met in thia room twenty years ago this month aeo j cannon was officer he read the article on alie mines aa an evidence 0 apostasy this was because ft e opposed the priesthood ie grand I 1 dont wish to interrupt the wit icis in his speech but be ha no right to go in bis lecture on early utah bamond alie question at isue is ue heie eien if coabe and II arrison were cut off for the reason claimed is tint any why a member of tint church should ba dented it may bo admitted the i arly inhabitants opening of the mine but that is not a reason for sir moore from the privileges ol 01 a citizen mr moore may bo in favor 0 opening the mines bat that makes no to this die ills not be per f cited here because it is uncalled for and at thia stage of the proceedings illegal dickon wanted laurenca lAw renca to gi on in the line he was following in hs fusei h he demanded that cormons mormons be excluded from citizenship and the mob in attendance began stamping their feet and clapping their bianas lianas followed in the game line as and baid that he opposed the church because it was a theocracy and no member of it could be attached to the constitution or to amar can institutions it W huge areil that mr lawrence bad said be had exercised ins free thought were not the mor mons untitled to take their view they did not force him to remain in till the people had a right to refrain from dealing with him if they wanted to alie cormons mormons had M much right to vote the peoples ticket as the non cormona bad a right to ote alie literal ticket leg ard young suggested that the catholic wai always cirit to tin pope but thair practice was to be loyal to the governments where they baided you irian accuse the mor inona of allegiance to the priesthood bat their practice haa been that 0 devoted tp alie con and we clalla nee the arh to ft comparison with us let the fictions of the people sp ak for them judee anderson eaid chis was not the girat time tin of excluding rs of a certain church from cit enship ha I 1 been raised it had been in regard to catholics but n t in the courts if it can be that the mormon church claims to control in temporal bitters then membership in that church disqualified A man tor citizenship II 11 W lawrence continued other charges acra mad against acl ho aal the larer asked the president of tho council j B dalae WA lae la abee anything against character fhe r ply was in the negative lingnam young mid not that we know of it ie a theory of the church that no man caa aboa tat za committing bin the idea waa given out that we had corn untied a sin or we would not have riven up the none of the high council voted in favor of dodlie and eli II 11 belaey was cut off for voting in favor of them without even giving him a trial this was done on motion of brigham young I 1 kelsey but nothing waa eaid to me pleaded with me to stay nith the church and I 1 lt it ot my oarn accord about a month I 1 bad nothing but kind f dines for the people I 1 wanted to bring about reforms we did not want to KO out of the at the time of the trial but I 1 did a month or 80 when I 1 atod by these men 1 waa ailed before the and as cat off the church claims to be the government aad lined in of god it ia a literal kingdom kirg dom its territorial jurisdiction waa lo 10 reach tho whole earth then chri chrit t to come and reign when I 1 was cut off I 1 was doing a business bus icess of to a mouth in a little while it was do A 0 to one third of that and I 1 was ostracized ostracised nobody wanted to be acen a my company to legrand young sir harrison made a mistake when be eaid the names of joseph and smith were not mentioned in the endowment house of courna the ceremony may not have been the ame mme as when I 1 administered 1 think harn hon intended to tell tha truth so did tul bidne aad kelsey they were all with ns in the new moio bodle and were among the le adera clr dg lias not taken an active part against the church mr keley also teased bia active and became favorable ti it since brigham Bri giam youba opposed fie of the many cormons mormons have been in the mining business john lay lor aa in that business but if ho bad done in tie would have been cut off it vaa the idea that the lord would direct whan the mines were to be opened only reason KAVO for his opposition was the brining tu of many people whom lie could not control lie also eld he thought ato agricultural and leopla would be ewe Mug I 1 knew anthony evini he prominent aad liaa engaged in opening the mine lie was in gool standing in church to his death one of the charges godbe and WM eliat they faight false doctrines one of the alaa waa opening min e another wa in divi duil agency it wa not till after that they bead teaching bisoi there M aa only one abiog before them it was not generally known that they were having reve lation ft it WM mentioned at the trial the charge was at and that included abany things alia tern B were predominant george A smith eaid they masted to open the mines aad bring in all hell and lie devil I 1 believe in mormonism gm sincerely at chii point court adjourned till this morning upon this rooming mr laurences lawrences Lawren ces crosa continued the kingdom of god used by alie cormons mormons Mor mons referred to an organization now in existence the theory ia aliat liat this is the fullness of the gospel this is the of the kingdom that dant saw that ia to roll forth and fill the whole earth it i a spiritual and temporal kingdom combined completely the ermons believe the frinere fri nero the tion oftie unite J states were divinely inda re 1 was so diee tha tto in ol 01 god could be established and over tha whole earth the king dorae law lawi i we ao pl cible to all conditions condit ioas tin kingdom of bod is not now in exit exi t ence in its purity but alie elect of gol are being calad out to farm that kingdom christ la king ahn the kits lon is prepared I 1 never heard it eliat young M king but the people acceded to ins leire 8 parley ia aratt in the voice 1 I warning telli wha a kingdom is I 1 accept bis theory in that regard the laople the ki irsom was be ng prepared for cerii t they were preparing a liuga m for const I 1 dont think the kingdom is yet established but they are trying to do so it la to be cliris s the cormons mormons acknowledge him asking lie is to como the are pure enough I 1 a kinig is necessary to a kingdom can be no kibik dom till is a king but chev are preparing a and christ is to de ita first king ahe church does not enforce its except by ex A man can aicia but he must take the the state ot today to day is different from that twenty or years ago mormonism niem haa been to be divine and no man cai turn from it without being very wicked it en apostasy aiom other deahm ina lions alien he leaves it be ii re gard d as sinning against the holy ghost years ago it meant social oal rAcism that was the punishment the consequences of apie today to day are not of a berous nature but an apostate apos rate is not considered as true to his brethren K a prominent liberal was to leave that party and join the other side there n J be a kat deil of prejudice and be would bo ostracized by the n iu I 1 admit would bo a prejudice against him tle belief of the mor mons in regard to he coming of the savior to rein deflers from that of other religions in that the morann believe in a littral kingdom of christ and ha other believe only in a spiritual kingdom during the cross examination sir lawrence eluded uneasily in hia chair and baiely if ever answered a question directly to bickson the doctrine of the church is that the priesthood aho ild exercise exer cisa temporal power in building up the kingdom when I 1 wa cut off third were few gentiles here and I 1 had but few friends TJ baskin the ceremonies of the endowment are always substantially atie sama the game I 1 lea may ba expressed in Bligh lly differing language but the aim is to be in the churila there is an adopted theory that as the states where the saints were murdered mur derad had cot brought the murderers to justice the nation was responsible the word naion or government givern ment or united states is not used in the endowment ceremonies the theory I 1 ave re leered ered to ia not taught in the endowment aliouse some say alie nation is referred to but I 1 dont to le government la not r berred to in an official way in the endowment house I 1 do not remember the government being referred to at all 1 state it as fair as I 1 can I 1 would be glad not to have stated it I 1 the government had been mentioned I 1 I 1 would hive ra it distinctly I 1 do not remember ever having heard the name 0 the government being mentioned in fa t I 1 know it is not in the oath the ritual of the oath will not allow he ne of the word government or reference toil I 1 was hera in and 1857 the theory of the government aning le for the blood of the sam a wag referred to daring alie excitement of those years I 1 the season when the crops were cut off by the grasshoppers and it waa almost impossible to obtain food the reformation follow ed |