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Show IMAC VEAGH IS WITNESS Says It Was Not Morgan Who Talked With Harriman Washington, Oct. S. Wayne Mrc Veagh of Philadelphia, former attor-ney attor-ney general, testified before the Clap'p committee today that ho did not recall re-call an alleged conversation between J. P. Morgan and K H Harriman In 1904 about Republican campaign funds Charles Edward Russell, Soclalls: candidate for governor of New York, and J C. Wei liver, a writer, told their versions of the story yesterday It was, substantially, that Mr MacVcagh had been present In Mr. Morgans office of-fice whore such a conversation tool: place. "I never saw Mr. Morgan use the telephone or knew of his being called to the phone," he sain. Mr. Morgan had nevrr conversed with him on the subject of campaign contribution. The pre-convention expenditures of the supporters of President Taft and the Roosevelt activities in th nouth tis year, as well as the- 1004 campaign fund were scheduled for discussion be-foro be-foro the committee today. Former Senator Chauncoy M. Dopew of New York and Nathan B. Scott of West Mrginla, Congressman William B. McKinloy, Roosevelt contest manager at Chicago, and Matthew Flale of Massachusetts, wore on tho list of the day's witnesses. Basis for Story. Mr. MacVeagh said he did not wish to say he had not given Mr. Wclliver some basis for his Btory "I may have called on Mr. Morgan on the day I havo in mind," said Mr. MacVeagh. "but I remember calling on Mr. H. McK. Twombley at his of fice In tho latter part of October, 1904 While we wore conversing he wan called to the telephone by nls clerk. Hia offico Is In the same building as Mr. Morgan's but In the upper stories. stor-ies. When .Mr Twombley returned he told me he had been talking to Mr E H. Harriman: that Mr. Harriman Har-riman had been called to Washington hj Colonel Roosevelt and had found tho president anvioua for the raising of an additional fund for the campaign; cam-paign; that it had resulted in Mr Harriman agreeing to retire and give to Mr. Bliss $240,000. 'Mr Twombley said that Mr. Harriman Har-riman had called him up and said he expected him to give $50,000. Mr. Twombley told inc 'Ned' Harriman was going to give $50,000, that he had been aeked to give $50,000 and he said something that led me to infer that Mr. Morgan would give ?50,000. For Common Interest. ' He said, of course. 'Mr. Harriman had been acting in the common interest in-terest and that the contributions would have to be made I recall thai he ox-pressed ox-pressed the opinion that the contributions contri-butions would te practically a waste, that Mr, Roosevelt was sure of hl3 election, but that Mr. Harriman, who had been acting- In the common Interest, Inter-est, could not be expected to stand the entire contribution. He added that of course there's nothing for me to do but to meet his request." " Mr. MacVeagh said thai undoubtedly was the incident to which Mr. Russell Rus-sell and Mr. Welllver had alluded. r "I made no secret of it," said Mr. MacVeagh. "because it was thought at the time to be a fine, patriotic thing to give funds to a campaign." Mr. MacVeagh also related a recent re-cent conversation with Charlea A.. Peabody, president of the Mutual Life Insurance company, in which Mr Pea-body Pea-body said he had been in Mr. Harrl- i man's office when he called up Mr. Twombley aDout the contribution Harriman Told Him. "Mr, Peabody said Mr. Harriman told him he had been down to Washington Wash-ington and that the president insisted, or requested, or desired, that he raise the additional money, part of It. for the state campaign and part of it for use in other states.' Mr MacVeagh, added that Mr. Twomhley told him he had once been invited to lunch at the White House with Mr. Prick but before the Harriman Harri-man incident. "While he did not say so, he gave me to understand that they had both made contributions afterward,' said Mr MacVeagh. Mr. MacVeagh had objected to relating re-lating the incidents because the men concerned were dead and unable to testlfv, but the comraltteo insisted. I Mr" Twombley represented, he understood, un-derstood, the Vanderbilt railroad Interests; In-terests; Mr. Prick represented commercial' com-mercial' and steel interests. Mr. Arch-bold Arch-bold and Mr. Rogers Standard Oil Intercuts In-tercuts and George J Gould leading railroad Interests. |