Show Fl tr ft MAJORITy fA CONSOLIDATION OF UTAH'S GREAT SCHOOLS f r Three Reports Ar re by Commission Appointed by I k on onI Duplication of Studies at Agricultural w. w 1 Colleg U i University of Utah T. T tf t a. a I i i t W w I ES LEFT AS THEY ARE AHE t. t I j 4 t They Be United in One Corpor Cor Cor- por Q Y li d ils epa Schools Schools- i it t LT I. I h L I t t IP L. L e i r t H Ht A t t tt t t fJ to 9 l r i to nt ic 1 th fth cn 1 f 4 Ur Hf M tl n aud alid of it 4 v nm 4 fJ IU f In C i 4 t 1 h 4 11 ID nIc 11 I if and y I cUan to W. W t l t or i lh- lh In t d Iro- Iro 1 t. t dilt U j t o I. I 1 i. i t Jin lf U t ai a- a f Un p J j. j t t II r i 4 J 1 1 p Th r rOlt t t 1 VI hI f i l' l rn f t h y d 4 rr- rr t avora vot J. J t Cj of r li 4 J Loth H It'll Jo t t n Jy 1 UlC uie t- t T f J. J j tt f. f 4 T i l ti tx cc eI i J ot d bY hJ last st Jg g l' l 10 l hr tl ate anti and report upon YF bIt ml r f Co consolidating I lh 1 lIt Jf d no J ll t jl firt t l 11 of r aM at al 1 C ck jot t and t h to 0 the Hut gover- gover ov r- r 1 Who VJ In turi Ji d H ot C 6 Tn T ine J cl It t bt tt rl tj rj r t 4 f t t I must cj m id rc 1 t il i ru j l J a r. r h. The he heI I tf tt tJ poi Olt w lR i f if lJ 1 rt r h c CoU rl 17 I nt fb N uyer coun un un- t P ter all If if f San I. I Ul 1 JOl salt alt all Lake Ani I nf Kull l i ic c ii C Ci i i r f I nii I d rH r cr r- r ot oti r r i w The e nol minority report I WaR vaR signed d by b lle ho llullen Butlen and J 3 JC 3 C C. Wallers of Cache ache county count and aud tho the compromise e r report by y Dr Dt A A. S S. Condon Conon Con Con- don on of Weber county The report contains 1 0 pages three of which aie de do voted lo to the tite commissions commission's findings antI s B II iven to an appendix containing contain contain- ing lug references Puurs C Coin in The Tho majority report favors the tho consolidation con con- of oC the tine two t colleges on the Ito NRC now covered 11 b by the University of or Utah while the minority report fao favors fa fa- avor a- a allowing both buth in institutions to Lo re- re o vors vor maui us as the they are aro The Tho report of Dr Con Condon Jon favors the Institutions being maintained separate separate- I. I IM ht e t l one president and one u. u D I control of board of regents exercising ex b both report holds that duplication du- du The Tho of or studies hn has been proved to an and quotes exist in both In Institutions consolida on et very veny strongly DP Dr Korr used b by him bun Inthe in inthe arguments tion using convention the con to maintain their Quoting report states that th the per perc the on an universitY cost III at the c capita een has Ims fit of 96 at and at al the tho college college col- col averaged Of lege on an college col- col 74 09 In the Agricultural at al a total of on loge lege th the per capita and on seventy Is students Is 15 11 1743 college ld would cost It II i Is said It the ones ulli to II library b provide a to lo 1 In both contained now would be worth mus J at the A. A C C. U 13 U 7 GO nt aS th anti ono that itt at tile worth Is cr 60 while be the worth wo 1 S 4 tuM would the It cost cost- j. j the tilO on at al at the A A. C. C U. U s and that O III lug cr j. j c costing no flO con conservatory tor MV has his university The worth the A. A c. c U. U u. u Is while that at al i 2600 In Sn n Sin Ins report the to In regard short time the states tates that within I If n sL I ir two Institutions G 1338 to erect wilL rt In 10 noW new would be 0 saved a I bills to The rhe i I ie be would g would 2000 U It or of em In salaries as a the pro pro- I of save that of one ofle president he 10 made mader fc feor or or of r dean oC the tho u salary saving M advanced ad au of or a nt at A AA a n In tie p e 11 iv be e A year rear would oud a 4 s-al- s al I- I other uther In w willo I It U Is averred the i of oC of the the t board L. L or of t or oC the c secretarY nG k saved l I would hO he i. i lc report r the DI exists coun courses es esIn moVe morl t. t one C to two or French In om C German elocution so- so o. o In iii Latin ph- ph ug laW work Iron botanY bolan S art cook InS InS' lh geometrY ul bra calculus civil l a foundry tn electricitY mut music lc and amI work woriC and are aro pOring not flOt n ones Greek and The rhe U U. C C. the a. a 11 In In Hud mining time the In th tlc i tJ J oj f 1 i Ft I j jI I jA jAP A. A P V. U U. ht has fifty students and tho the uni- uni H about tOO i The 11 report ors fa the locating of oC the thu site sill at nt the tho university on the grounds ground of time the securing oCt of oC t endowment greater ent r convenience to all points of the state slate anti and for or the general general gen gen- eral welfare of oC the contemplated consolidated con o Institution After giving numerous acts facts and citing figures cox all departments tin the report concludes with the follow ollow following ing summary r yf r t In this this report consolidation Is shown t to b be preferable for tho the rea- rea sonth that Tho ho Institution will vIli be he much s stronger gel commanding a n greater r re respect ra- ra at homo home and elsewhere I Ct Combination do does doo not militate In Inan an any respect against tho the pursuit of agricultural studies It Is Js desirable to have haxe students in lines associated thus broad broad- their minds and creating sympathy sym sym- pathy for 01 E each aeh others other work The slate stat Mould have only imily one nine uni- uni i tl to support Instead of two since experience unit has shown that If IC limited to agriculture tho the Agricultural college col col- Jelf Jet lege- will not thrive c Duplication I Is very expensive and combination com will eliminate duplica duplica- duplication Lion tion It destroys that ver very objectionable ble arid deplorable biennial contest before be e tort fore the egl legislature legislature lature lobbying It it will enable the state to engage stronger men und and such uch mom men will be will willing willing- willingto ng to accept positions The he trend In education is toward con concentration not only here but In other states and It Is much cheaper to combine even overt after the time schools have hav been established 3 t Tho o moral und Intellectual effect t Is Js good of Other States tate r t rR c nr 1 a e. e UCC ot m l J school i tf Wisconsin l OU lr i r r u Ohio California I I 1 l othet it i i Ut t lw li V h C special in rich and ami I si nits has has' proved detrimental to the tho tn Interests ts of or agriculture us UJ well elL n as beIng being belog be be- ing log vety very t expensive e It OIl Is impossible in separation to lo prevent duplication of vcr very expensive us Combination would attract the tile sympathy of wealthy wealth men who would make mako endowments The tax mill-tax to each school hool on a separate sIte would not nol prevent fric nc- nc I lion tion Combination would save o the state for 01 buildings s alone needed now 1220 0 00 There Is no suitable building fo for Cont Continued on Oil Two Tuo FAVORS CONSOLIDATION OF UTAH'S SCHOOLS SCHOOL Continued Promo From Frol Page One Ouie Ole agriculture and President Kerr sa say that a n building at a cost of o or would have to be built hul therefore therefore there bert fore an nn agricultural building would wool not be on en extra expense of oC ton The Tho only extra expense would be for fur barns etc What hat C Can ln Ho Ike Hl Saved There IB is no real expense In con com com The buildings needed can cai be he put up imp and the moving mo done lone ask asi cd for by the university for separate maintenance plus the college appropriation from the state stat and on a basis basIs of what the tho colIe received In 1 Hlf which 1 rr says Rays will 11 be he Increased asel next tim lime 00 can be he saved raved In the very ne next nex On a basis of what wha was act actually un I granted can b I. he saved wel After the schools are arc once t to together to- to gether the entire entre Logan from om the lie state can l hr be c saved It lt I has been demonstrated by hy i n private school nearer the center o or population in tho state that the pe pepie people peo peo- pie believe in agricultural education In one years year's time line this school chool 13 B. B l. l Y Y 1 university Provo Prove has enrolled more mon than double tho the number of student student reached h by the Agricultural college r a nt Logan Combination will wi release some o othe of Ll the hi monc money unnecessarily spent Silent am an anthis this tills may be le used or a n portion porton of oC I Ifor It I for tIme the benefit of public schools of or tin the state slate It I costs cost the tho state stale almost double doubli the amount to maintain these separately that it I would cost t to maintain them combined If I all al the lie government ton lion and the Interest on the land lam fund were reserved for instruction i ithe it In Inthe the technical lines lilies lles of oC agriculture am an ond manual training and the time work worl these thes lines hues would be he better provided pro pro- vided for rOI than ever before Quotes Quoi's Pr President i Herr The te testimony of or President Kerr Ken President Kingsbury and Prof ProC id Widstoe Ids toe before the commission In January Janu Jane ary 1906 is to the effect that tin the would be greater and tho th expense smaller If Ir the thc Institution were on one site The Fhe agricultural college land lanti I i Is worthless for fm experiments and ha lic been abandoned long ago so su fat far as this lii work wOk Is la concerned The Tue state is no now nov renting five acres In Greenville north nort of Logan and hits has ha had to buy six acres acre moreIn moreIn more mOle In maintaining maintaInIng these two school schools separately the cost per lien capita Is to too high hiSh for fm the hue state to aCord afford The rat ral rte for college students at the hue university o c Utah Is 27 69 and at the Agricultural tural turl college 1117 17 13 It I will trill wi be le better beter for the norma normal school If Its students can got get a coursin course cours in agriculture and help work out ont the thi national idea Idea in the lie convention of or normal normal nor not mal workers worl In Louisville le in January 1 1906 0 G It I would be he beLer better belter for fOl agriculture to have the teachers of the lie state prepared pre pared to ll disseminate this line of ivor worl among amons the masses mases Some Somo of o the he greatest men in iii agriculture ag zig as well wel as In other lines Jnes urge combination comb I nat 10 flIt fl It I is shown by hy the state school o of mines that consolidation is cheaper 1 I I costs to lo run that school with will the university while to run it I separately separately separately separ separ- on an independent site sie with the th present efficiency It I would woul cost 69 besides in buildings paul School as ns Example l t mi shown hown bv by bv the f state norma normal school that cons consolidation la Is cheper cheaper To conduct tills thIs school combined with will the thc university costs the state separate maintenance with present ef ef- would cost besides ex ex- Pense of buildings In hi fifteen years ears the lie state will wi say savi more than and anti the worl will wi be bettor better beter done done In Iii collecting libraries museums museum and amI apparatus It I is cheaper to furnIsh one school than two In closing this commission in accordance accordance ac ac- found lound with wih th the law lair creating it I haj ha hn That there Is duplication caton In the Ag As- As Agricultural college and the University o 01 01 Utah much of which Is unnecessary in a course and subjects b li apparatus ap up and equipment c Instrumental mental d scope and pur pur- pose That this duplication Is expensive involving needless needles cost running running Into Inti man many thousands of dollars b by this thul ie report We c recommend to the lie electors o othis 01 of this state the lie durability desirability and considering consul consid ering cring tho the future the necessity o ol of amending the con constitution of this state stati section 4 article artcle 10 so that where it I now provides for tor the thc separate maintenance maintenance main main- of the he University of or Utah ant and anil Agricultural college it I shall provide proville tor br their belt maintenance on one site Minority Tells of Labors The minority report after ater re relating the history of ot the he organization organisation of or the hc commission tells of Its Is labors Jabors and antI states that a meeting was held from frol Juno 11 1 to June Jutie 14 H when tho the question clues ques ton tion of or duplication cost etc was discussed dis this cussed und and a preliminary vote was wa taken talen which developed a division 11 The committee then adjourned to prepare reports leport The rue report states that It I found the time following attendance at the time Institutions tons ions Utah students university 9 A A. C. C U U. S 1 Students ts from other states slates university 32 A. A C. C U. U The report then lien gives thu th history of the lie beginning of or the Institutions how appropriations were iere provided statutory law v and congressional acts and end the Morrell act and says ys The distinctive work of tho lie Agricultural college has been along lne lines of agri culture domestic science clence commerce commerce and nd engineering To the that tho Lime general science course has hns comprised com corn work worl involving Involving a larger expenditure expenditure ex ex- than would be he required in meeting the needs of the tue technical courses the lie establishment of this course was an au encroachment on the work ork of the thc University Uni ersly of Utah Uth while on li the other hand the university in establishing civil civi and anti mechanical engineering en en- courses and In offering work along thong certain lines Jnes of commerce as us shown after all al this work worle had been leen provided for at the hue tie Agi Agricultural cultural college college col col- lege ege therel thereby entered tho distinctive field Jell of the college and antI to o that that cx- cx extent ex cx- tent Cut duplicated college work The report states that it found fount duplication du du- in En English mathematics anti and astronomy chemistry biology history commerce commerce Including economics economic socIology sociology so so- so- so and anti law in lii the time university German French Spanish h Latin civil mechanical 1 engineering engineering n art g geology and mineralogy and physical phy pity deal ell education Courses Not ot Duplicated The following nam named l departments In n a th the lie university arc are not duplicated In iii Inthe Inthe the he A A. C. C U U. Greek Creele philos ophy education edu edu- elu- elu and cation metallurgy y and mining caton electrical lug and these in tho lie A. A C. C U. U are alo not duplicated In the tho university Agriculture Including animal husbandry dairying dairying lure tun ure Irrigation and drainage and veterinary et vet vet- science domestic tc science and amid nl I arts arl mechanical arts music an and and- annl mill amid nl mill tar tary science and amid ladies Tlc Tho re report also gives et figures figure showIng show Ing log the number nUmbE of or courses offered offered- In university offered hl high h school 28 38 8 college tal taken en high school 32 and anti college us The hE A. A C. C U U. offers High school chool r 15 65 college High Ilch C. C college 81 SI 81 It I al also o gives figures figure showing parallel coun courses s. s high school subjects given gln by both subjects an credits credis and number of ot students In the cost of duplication the tho nc nc-I nc port states that according to lo Prof It I costs In salaries at tb university to maintain the college colleg work and salaries s to teach teach- 1 18 on special 1 subjects in A. A C C. U U. U. U but not |