Show BERWIND PROVES WINESS President of Big Coal Company Company Com Corn pany Talks Talks' Freely of Transactions HAD BIG STEAMER TRADE Testimony Ics Tl I I U it I I I He iC fo fore me I I I I ems I a I c Cut Com Com- CUI- CUI i m Commission Fulls to Show Sho or Fa Shown I by fr Washington June 19 E. E E. E J. J tier Der- wind president of th time the Coal Mining company which accordIng accord accord- lug Ing to his testimony is the tho largest bi bituminous hl- hl coal oal shippers over the lie Pennsylvania Penn- Penn sylvania 1 railroad was the star witness wines toLJa today at the lie further Investigations o ohe of thc he Int interstate commerce commission Into tho tic coal business in this country With I I unreserved frankness and amid a a. willingness wl- wl wil wil- to go Into inlo details about transactions trans trans- actions he lie made mado a good witness for and amal the lie his company Pennsylvania road loal in 10 so 50 far as that lint road rod was accused ac ac- ac CUsel of favoring fa his company During DurIns- time the forenoon session Mr air Bel Ber- Ber wind vind gave sa o his explanation of or the lie liar Ilar- lar- lar pier Ile business between the coal company and the railroad claiming it did not constitute a a. monopoly for Cor his concern and anh told of or his personal possession possession pos pos- session of or acres of ot Virginia coal land laud and a lar largo large o Interest In acres of Pennsylvania coal land making him hima a multi A few years year ago he lie was a naval officer After ACer the lie noon recess reces Mr Glasgow Glagow a asked l ed Mr to tell tel how his hia company company com corn pany came to purchase from the thc Penn Pennsylvania 1000 In 1902 Price for fol Cars Curs Mr air Berwind said sid this was during the strike when his company was wa unable to get ge coal to fill fil Its Is contracts with steamer companies The he Pennsylvania had cars being built buit which they turned over to the coal company at the thc largest meg larg est price ice ever paid for cars cars 1187 S i each Ho lie continued to say that the Pennsylvania had want wanted d to buy them back but he had refused to sell seU owing to the fact that lint despite the loss los of ot op op- crating them their possession was wa an nn Insurance of or his company's ability to lo promptly deliver delver coal to the steamers when nee needed ed air Mr Ir Glasgow asked aked him If I the thc sale of or those cars at that time timo did not enable enable en en- able him company to do an Immense business that his competitors could not enter Not a n ton was shipped to the thc outside outside outside out out- side market said he h e ewry ery ry ton went to nil fill fl our contracts contract at contract prices Advantage t O cr Competitors Under examination cross cros counsel for forlie forthe o. o the lie Pennsylvania brought out the tw statement on account of or good the WhIte Bei Coal company company com corn pany was able to handle three ee times as much coal conI with wih 1000 cars as an any other tidewater shipper with wih the same Ii number U her The counsel wanted to show a Justl- Justl just just- for or tho the Pennsylvania company 1 Mr tho sole of tho those e par barq in durin the Ji S U Lh vt Lh tU i n- n terest of or the consumer I at heart heart Commissioner Clement exam cross cros ined th tIme the witness as to the statement made mad 1 by hy hIm him that lint It I was unfortunate that Robert Ca Cassatt sl son on of oC Pre President Cassatt of the Pennsylvania was presIdent presIdent pres pres- Ident of the lie Keystone Coal company I I 1 hill did not s say that his company dl did not anything that other companies tid no he lie stuck to this do said he anti and contention throughout and anti declined t to togo togo go go Into Inlo the thc subject Xo No XI Monopoly When hen asked ed what whal share shar of tin t steamer business his company secured he lie answered about aboul i 75 per cent Questioned Ques further If he lie had hod monopolized d the lie trade he said suld They rh v all ul had the thc same sinie chance to build ui up p the trade that thal-I thal did Robert Hobert 11 H. I. I Large coal freight ht agent of tho lie Pennsylvania Pennsyl railroad followed Mr Mi- on the witness stand J Ho lIe testified about minor points of hi his t testimony previous A. A II IL Storrs a government o export expert I. I testified that In Investigating he lie had found that lint the City railroad of New v NewYork York purchased coal from froni Berwind- Berwind and anti afterwards weighed it Their heir wl weight hl did not vary Vy on one percent per cent cent from the estimated weight given Ln i on en the bill bi of lading This testimony was vas wa very much against the lie tw point Mr 11 Glas Glasgow ow had been trying to establish all da day In imi regard to the lie accuracy of al the lie estimated weight in imi the bill bl o of lading lading lad lad- ing on which the lie P Pennsylvania railroad rail rail- road t char charges freight Stores Storrs had been sent to mal make e the lie investigation was given privileges by the thc companies and the government felt relt compelled to put him hint on the thc stand of Weighing iIII nl Cockran superintendent of for the lie th thc lie pier 0 hite hite com company pan tool took time the stand stant ati at i 30 He lIe was asked further about aboul the time system le of wel weighing coal at tho lie pier Iller and amid defined it i at length G C A. A Williams superintendent superintend ent cot of or the tIme i hIto hlo CO company 1 pa n wa was asked if Ir he lie knew of any graft graf that captains of vessels got ot for fOI buying coal of the company he declared He lie did not 1 Coun cl for fO the thc lie Pennsylvania asked air Mr Glasgow ow just before beCore adjournment If If after Mr Ir Storrs' Storrs testimony he lie was vas not willing to admit admi the accuracy of or orthe the estimated el weight ht of the tho Pennsylvania Pennsylvania Pennsyl Pennsyl- vania railroads railroad's bills bis of or lading to the White company Im not giving a clean bill bi of health 11 I not to lo an any ammy one wa was tho the reply may many not be through h with wih this line Ino of or Investigation tion iou on yet The Tho et committee tomorrow will wi continue its tt in investigation in- in I |