Show ARGUED j IN STORMY SESSION Debate On T Temperance Question Comes I Near Breaking Up in An Intemperate Row Before Both Sides Are Heard Threatening at times to break up Ina In Ina Ina a row with personal taunts and ridicule ridi cole cule seen on man many sides and with heated arguments ar and tumultuous applause applause ap ap- ap- ap the tile public meeting before tro Judiciary committee of or the House of or Representatives cs held last night ht on the prohibition question was a memorable one It was In no noVa Va way a temperate meeting so far as speech was concerned con con- Trouble started when Committeeman Committee Committee- man T T. I L. L Holman of Bingham asked lieber Heber J. J Grant why he Grant alway emphasized tt tl o e word personally In presenting his views or answering questions The question was apparently apparent apparent- ly ly not clear for tor Mr lr Holman had hall to supplement It with the question ItI if It when the tho word personally was used I h he meant that he was as associated with I others who he was representing orI of- of I ally This was denied with em em- Mr Ir Holman then asked If It It was vas true that he Grant was appi approaching ap- ap pi caching some members of or the committee committee com corn In one way and others In an another another another an- an other In his efforts to secure tion Ion too ho he denied Continuing In his talk Mr i Grant cast a 11 challenge at E. E F. F Col Colborn orn who with the Rev Re Elmer I. I Goshen were the only speakers speaker against prohibition for a debate Mr Ir Goshen's remarks wore met with Instant and frequent I applause from persons who occupied one side of tho hall hail c t for Debate At this point Mr lr Colborn was as also alec challenged b by Dr Francis Bur Burgette ette Short for r. r a debate on prohibition on or Biblical lines and frequent calls were coming from the prohibition support support- ers Again Representative Holman rose to his feet teet and In in- evident anger angor said It makes m my jn- blood run cold to tc seo this bickering going on between judge pastor pastor- apostle and hired cheerers If It such actions arc are called Jr or at all the they are ate not called for tor here w With Ith the words tired hired cheerers Mr 1 looked at the body of or spectators tors who ha had been vigorously applaudIng applauding applaud applaud- ing Heber J. J Gr Grants Grant's nt's words At once several so offers to to tight fIght were were- heard and anda an ana a general uproar with motions to ad adJourn adjourn adjourn ad- ad journ from many quarters BrIgham Clegg chairman of ot the Judiciary committee acting upon many man suggestions refused to hear the tho mo- mo tons to adjourn and made mado the ruling that no more moro applause bo be given Finally Fin ally quiet to a more moro temperate extent exten tR had l been secured and tho the meeting con con- Tho The Judiciary committee through It Us Its chairman hud had called the tho meeting am and Invited In public pUblio discussion on the ques ques- tion Ion unes Resolved That Utah should hould no not have prohibition Each Bach side sl was was was' wasat wasal allowed al at al- al lowed one hour and then 30 minute for rebuttal Owing to the tho many man In Int In- In t however tho the timekeeper failed to agree upon Just how liw long lunG longtime i IL time had been up by a side Ulo with wit the result that It t was 1130 p. p m. m who I the adjournment lj lr n nc came camo c ol although ii o g It ha haI I been threatened toneLl before Tho The speaker against prohibition wet we Rev Elmer I I. I Goshen and E. E F P. P o Cohorn Colborn Col Col- horn born opposed were George M. M Cannon Mrs E E- E. E Sheard J. J S a Orant ran Jan CD tl n. Mays He hey Francis sho hOft d others U. n enC d th m not wi U nn oJ II acid watt il th that t that w wasn't a n drop op of or liquor on or tho the oart eart but that as ns thero hero was waa W S. S the I 1 be bc faced aced fairly In substance h ii ho said ald that prohibition did not prohibit that It Jt put ut temptation In tho the path o C oy or orI y yuth uth that time It sent nt men to the I selling of oC liquor the establishment o a at blind pIgs s blind tigers tIgers' and the morals c cf the community Mr Air Goshen c concluded You face face- a I question of ot Importance an and rC responsibility You iou know of or the libellous libel bus lous and dastardly reports that have huva been sent been went Hent over o tile the United States blemish blem blem- I ish ing the fair name mime of ot the tho state ot oC oCI Utah Considering these things I hope I ii In ti tle He e province pro of ot Oo God that you OU wilnot will wil not enact a si law that that- would provo prove a astep a aI astep I step backward If IC you OU pass a prohibition Ion tion measure your our action will bo be re regretted reI regretted re- re I by the thc posterity of or the tho state stale It It was ns after artel Mr Goshen's departure I that Air Colborn took the tho floor in further defense of or tho the antl prohibition question c Ho He offered ortere convincing proof n h ho a admitted that to some somo of 0 tl TI e C minds before him invaded by the I I prohibition bug no proof would cona con con- i a Inee Ince them that their views lows were fa faulty Mr Ir Colburn offered telegrams from of oC the tho state of or Kansas nn and other documentary evidence that pra- pra pr had hud failed ailed to play the part set tiet setout out tut for It It- For his own part he said saM that ho io was glad to be called before the committee as a citizen to give his views on prohibition J. J First ho said that to enact a prohibition law would woul bo be in derogation of or God-given God human lIbert liberty would be e to fasten a handicap to the morals of or man and children an and would confiscate vested rights Getting down downto to Utah and Salt Lake take the speaker sol tint LI 11 at a prohibition law would drive e sway away thousands of or settlers and millions of af dollars of improvements to cities and Industries To substantiate his statements state state- ments meats he quoted Quote statistics and records of ot prohibition states among which were wore the following telegrams Experience of Oilier Chr From A A. D D. former Cormer presiding presidIng ing lug Judge of the tho Kansas Court of ot Appeals Appeals Ap Ap- Appeals Ap- Ap peals Hays Has Kansas Fob 6 6 1909 E Edwin F F. Colborn Salt Lake City Utah The rile prohibition law of ot Kansas Is fearfully and wonderfully made malIc Tho rho long haired men and short haired halad women women wo wo- men have all the tue proposition they thoy want the remainder of or the Inhabitants all til the booze they want an t It I Is merely a apolitical political dodge worked by all ali candidates candidates candi candi- dates Jutes for office from the governor down lown to road supervisor Before adoro election election elec elec- tion Lion both were wore for tor and against as tho the locality demands and Ignored the tho day I after election The administration has If tho they had never yet et had tho the courage tho th Inclination to enforce It except b by talk It has hilS fastened upon the state of sneaks and perjurers perJurers per per- at it large an army arm jurers Furors and has brought brough t tho the sanctity of ofIn an In oath into disrepute and disrespect for other laws It Is simply the plaything play play- y- y thing hIng thin of ot the demagogue and lies has tho I productive of notorious crime of or thoI tho the I class lass that taps taIlS the vitals of ot government I theory hoory the evil attempted to bo be eradicated by b it It has made mado tho the state oCI of oC I Kansas ansas the dumping grounds rounds of or the tho vilest death dealing concoctions that I nd and I seriously doubt can an be procured at all If Ir f It has reduce reduce-J tho the drink habit I It I certainly has Increased private ato drunkenness an and tho the army of ot hypocrites hypo hypo- rites crites who howl God and Mt Morality and drink in their homes are arc beyond number num num- ber ber or It Is no protection to the rising I Continued on oiz Page I Three I I I i I 1 I PROHIBITION AR ARGUED IN STORMY SESSION Continued Iron Front Ia ire One Oue- generation On tho the contrary It Is la to their detriment It has lifts fastened upon who Cannot Can cun- us t a. a gang of or snitch not o a living In time tho profession but now through tho tile state to bring actions action in th the name numo of or Rood good morals and decency fur for or thu tho raft Kraft there thoro Is III in IC thorn thom fl upon tho the counties anil communities n l strife In m l UI up KESON A D. D aOL Ex 1 Presiding Ex Judge 1 Kansas Kausas Court of ot otI I Appeal Following same one ono from Dr J. J F. F Cal Calle Calley ley editor of tho the J Feb 6 6 Edward r F. F Colborn Salt L Lako ahe ko City CIU Utah Five hundred empty empt residences twenty vacant business loll hon and a depleted ell city treasury arc aru monuments to tho tim prohibition wave In this city In I Blind timers tigers and bootleggers dance DR J J. J F F. C CALLEY ALLEY Editor of ot the tile I Kanaan I George Georoe W. W V. V Peck leck former governor Mr Ir Colburn of Wisconsin continued has this to say about prohibition Milwaukee Wis Vis Feb 5 3 5 Edward I F. F Colborn Salt Lake City investigation From m my personal Inv Utah of prohibition In Maine Georgia Dakota Da Pu- kota Kansas and anel other states I am nm that prohibition does docs not prohibit prohibit prohibit pro pro- satisfied there Ismore is ismore whore I 1 have be been bean on hibit that saloons than where drunkenness more Is encouraged that IH perjury penury arc are open in general The Tho law is constantly constantly con con- hypocrisy Irresistibly violated that and Children are nrc encouraged crime increases violations of ot the law lawand lawand lawand aged ed to laugh at result and that temperance is not the of or prohibition GEORGE laws lawn f W. W PECK Dr Pr 1 Mi Short art for or was shot for the tho negative The first fired by the Rev fie Francis Burgette of or the First M. M I. I E E. church Short pastor introduced his Ills remarks b by saying saying say say- He lie was nut not that a Methodist preacher ing to be bo logical He lIe made an supposed however for foJ tho tile adoption adoption adoption plea eloquent the tIme grounds of of 0 righteousness tion on that even continued will say he I 1 of or financial lal bankruptcy the if It it means Salt Lake Lako righteousness Utah and Is 19 in debt should govern My fy church como come to me an and aa say Short and men know that If IC the tho prohibition dont don't you will lose the time church 7 ou bill bUl passes you and arid como come then I sa say let prohibition lose loso the tho church wo we will tho the most must Shepard one ono of ot Mrs Irs E E. E E. E women workers for or prohibition pro pro- prominent Dr in the tho state rose to follow tollow Short Sue She said Hald that she represented I women of at Utah Llah wives mothers demandIng demanding demand- demand an and that all were sisters and arid Referring to lo Mr lr Colborn Colborn Colborn Col Col- Ing Ins prohibition said that she too Mrs Ir born and while Kansas papers took toole some she aho could not afford to tu pa pay 1170 for fora she ahe ho had the cold coM C facts be before before be- be telegram a Q wasted fore foro her She told of or time the money mono of ot the tho man many in drinking an and vice vic and Sho She to society Bodet from frum drink dangers of American Amen Ameri d d out tho the town town can cali Falls Idaho whore bore thoro wore track saloons on ono one Ride side of ot the tho that no divided th tho 01 old 1 from the time new town to that was wan coining and of the tho success residents of or the time dry r- r side She Sho he did nut not believe that Utah toh would t bo ho sot back of ot would be thousands but that Ul there re coming to Utah who now V wanted wanted want want- people who ilio wanted a n. ed cC to como come West Vest but prohibition state where their children might be brought up In Batet safety At this point Hober J J. J Grant took tool the tho tour four minutes yet ct remaining to hi his side and took up tho time challenges s to Mr 11 Colborn and the other uther statements that brought on time the wild v. applause Ho lie suit said that ho lie not only favored tn prohibition tion but a clause prohibiting drug drugstores stores to HO sell liquor oven even for tor medicinal purposes all 11 liquor for fOl that purpose to como count from a a. medical dispensary Mt stud and upon pro prescription only ooh I brought out the Air Mr Colborn's Colborn from Dr Short for tor tho time UM use of or the First M. M E. E c church With Rep Rep- I r call CAU 1 Tor for order ardor things down but riot not nOL until sev- sev orul ermil of or tho the hired rera had hod orf offered or- or f to take tako the matter up with tho the press representatives es if JC they were mentioned In the papers apr an as well as na with Representative After Arter quiet hud had been restored George Q Cannon and other speakers spoke for prohibition Mr 11 Cannon was particularly lurly sarcastic to the prohibition anti speakers speaker and Intimated that wherever ho lie might be bo found he ho Colborn would bo ho puffing himself up After Atter the final adjournment bands of ot I excited excised spectators gathered In tb the halls In heated hento |