Show POOR IRELANDS IRELAND S 'S SHEAVY S HEAVY BURDENS Timothy Healy Healy Discusses H His Country's Needs and Disappointments Dis Dis- appointments ALL STAND FOR HOME RULE RUL People Solidly Resolved S Some SomeDay me meDay Day to Contro Their Own Destiny BY ROBERT CROZIER CROZIER- CROZIER LONG Republican Special Cable Dublin Jan 1 t. Ireland Is making makin no progress progress toward better beter conditions No o progress ress Is conceivable until the tho country Is II freed Cree from tho the rule of Englishmen Eng Ermi who ho dont don't understand It It This Is the no note to of all al Irish Nation Nationalists Naton- Naton and it is tho the note of 01 a talk tan today to today today to- to day with Timothy Heal Healy at tho the historic historic his his- tone Dublin Pour Four Courts Healy Heah I is In good health and In fighting spiris spirits and his caustic ton tongue ue promises lively moments when ho next rises in th the parliament parlament of or Westminster Like Liko nil all al good goad Irishmen he begins begin b by saying that he ho does docs not want t to talk talk and and and then talks r You may sum S up the situation Ii in Ireland he began b by saying that I It Itis I is neither better beler nor worse than It I was wa wasten wasten ten years ago go In some somo quarters thorIs there thor is a gradual improvement In n agriculture Lure ture and in Industry but a against this thi wo we are arc having havinG more bad seasons ant and moro more failures allures of 01 crops crops This year r c we ve have ha been threatened with wIh a famine In the West It I rained without all and interruption al summer am caused aused a complete failure of the pomito potato potato po po- tato mito crop ClOp Fine weather In Septem Septen-i- September ber Improved things somewhat thain But thai Butin Butin in n western vestern Ireland the privation which is S chronic Ift Is 11 more mores more s serious than ever even c Is there a n prospect for tor home rule ru I asked H Irish Irish politics as far far as our one great Teat ret aim ales goes are arc stagnant replied Healy Italy There In is lI n no prospect prospect of or any home ome rule rulo bill bil while tho present parliament pat par pa- pa ament lasts last The Tho Intro introduction of oC tho the Irish Lish council councH bill bil last last season WAS QS aad a abad abad bad ad blow to any aspirations in other other The Irish Irian representation re rejected re ctt d tho the bill bil and tho the convention was wasand rl tt and I personally not un understand un- un wh why tho time liberal government o the was as alow allowed tl d to Introduce It In limo It tl did Tho l bUI 1111 was WIl a had bad ono one Only Only this tho thoin in out ungrateful and ar U- U l w r to manto nta o of tn S f rn TINT TUt ti la sn HUo lod to tu hi run run run th then them m Wa O In- In len t. t y It It Itna was na r aj tp attempt to K rid get t rid of or tho bankrupt 1 tock of ot bd oft be ml rule I J should have welcomed n. n I 1 I les 89 R pre pre- hilt hill hil extending our present ent system Stem of oC local government but I 1 re rejected re- re 10 cLod the tho council counci bill bil as s a mantIs sham mant Is I there ther anything to be bc said for tor torn England igland n land 1 y Opposition Oh 01 YeS YO said Healy Heals I recognize tho iC fact that opposition makes It hard fr r any English government to act mostly honestly town toward Id Ireland There Thero is nome no nu use me In opo opposing In with extreme extremo measures metes mea ur ures Cs s everything proposed A shrimp TI might ight ht Just as well wel attack attack a shark shaik as asa QS a divided Ireland oppose England I faVor compromise with wih an any govern govern- ment ant 11 I see sec very ery little weakening in parsun partisan par par- sun opposition to homo home rule and I 1 Iam In am n convinced that homo home rule ruc will wil never ver be brou brought h about bo t b by agreement I t I between n tho the rival rival- Irish forces TO ef- ef ei- ei feet that would mean to gain first the confidence of time the united minor minority I but the tIme only wa way t t gain gala that confidence isto Is ht Isto to prove In practice that a home rule government will win oppress no class and rip party Nothing but a as 3 national government go can extinguish tho the bitterness of th the tho Unionist landlord t minority If I we had hal home rule tomorrow tho the Protestant Unionists would bo to o given Iven a fair share of office and that and that alone would mal make e them solid sold with the rest rosl of 01 their countrymen What about out a this talk of ot Improved eon conditions I asked Healy shrugged his shoulders I Xo No do riot fOt believe the exaggerated Continued tl on Pm POOR IRELANDS IRELAND'S S S S HEAVY BURDENS nii from Vi 1 1 talk taik about the tito new era n In Irish farmIng farmIng farm- farm ling Ing and the tue rapid revival re of oC Irish In fu h ho said r. in 1 rei Farming in It Ireland eland Is a n. bare business business busi bust ness flees and will always remain Rb eb The average Irish farmers farmer's valuation tOda today Is and antI though you Oll ma may raise his Income after Immense labor to 01 you Oll will not thereby make Ireland rich To make mako Ireland prosperous we WP must have hu Industries Irish Irith t can never progress until we get gel a government gov gov- eminent impetus under home rub rule rulo and th the consequent return of confidence to our resent present small capitalist class At pr present ent everything o you hu buy in an IrIsh Slid hop com comes 8 from I n or America Before competent men can start In Industries Iii In- In Ireland wo we must Im tho time settlement of the political question and the settlement o of mens men's minds What haL Is It Ireland wants wants' was m my last question Oh many things timings replied Healy Wo o 0 want ant public works The Tho coun council ll bill which we rejected gave O us nom nom- thai inal authority to build anI and improves Improve but hut It did mild not give hp ti rua a tithe of or the time necessary mone money S Just as 11 wo want public works sowe sowe so we want trant public spirits Our rich men consider Went 1 Britons They Thoy m make ke money here hut but when they donate do tin- nate or will It for or education or charity charily H it goo goes to 10 England Ireland which mado muo them rich gets gots nil alL For this again l aln home homo rulo rule Is IR the only cure C Homo Horno rule rille will malta make the tile pr present propertied ct cheeses take pride In their raca laca and In being solid with the ito rent oct of or the lime nation nallon or I change which has haR taken In Ireland dm during Ing r recent y yea ars only In In- tc time the resolution of our P people to lo control own o Whatever What What- e ever evet- l' l minor exl exist j or or mn may i have i in 10 the Irish Nationalist 1 party are arc nil solid on th thuL Uj I |